1969 Hemicharger report similar to Galen Govier..

[71REDCUDA]

Hi everyone,


Im trying to help a friend of mine with production info on a 69 hemicharger he is restoring,
a factory europe export car.


He wants to know if there is any kind of registry of 69 hemichargers similar to Galen Govier registry.And if there is possible to get a report of how many were produced similar to his car with similar options.

In short words,he wants to know if he has a 1 of 1 car with that engine/trans/color.

Last time i checked Galen Goviers service was down.Anyone else doing the same thing?


Thanks
Nicklas

[69_500]

Not even Galen can say a car is a 1 of 1. All he can say is that it is 1 of 1 that he has in his registry. If you break down almost any car it is a 1 of 25 or so. Because there are hundreds of option combinations that you could do. But if your looking for just color, engine and trans the 69 registry should be able to give you a pretty good idea on that info.

[JB400]

The 69 Charger Registry would probably give you a general idea, but unfortunately, it's being refurbished and under new management.  You'd have to send a pm to Ghoste (new owner).  He could check his info and find out for sure.  What color was the 69 originally?

[Ghoste]

Just shoot me a pm and I'll try to help with what I can.  But as said, that can only help to determine how many it is of the ones registered.

[71REDCUDA]

The 69 Charger Registry would probably give you a general idea, but unfortunately, it's being refurbished and under new management.  You'd have to send a pm to Ghoste (new owner).  He could check his info and find out for sure.  What color was the 69 originally?

Ghoste, Yes i tried but your mailbox is full..

Anyway its a 1969 hemi charger export,auto trans in A4 silver. I can give you all data if needed.

Nicklas-780@hotmail.com


Thanks
Nicklas-Sweden

[tan top]

The 69 Charger Registry would probably give you a general idea, but unfortunately, it's being refurbished and under new management.  You'd have to send a pm to Ghoste (new owner).  He could check his info and find out for sure.  What color was the 69 originally?

Yes i tried but his mailbox is full..

Anyway its a 1969 hemi charger export,auto trans in A4 silver.

hello & welcome  , would like to see pictures  sometime  

I know of  69 charger   hemi , auto   ,   A4  no vinyl top  black interior  ,  was is  in Sweden or  Norway  , Netherlands , that sort of area , was owned by a guy called Roel ?   was is painted satin black  with a orange bumble  stripe

[71REDCUDA]

The 69 Charger Registry would probably give you a general idea, but unfortunately, it's being refurbished and under new management.  You'd have to send a pm to Ghoste (new owner).  He could check his info and find out for sure.  What color was the 69 originally?

Yes i tried but his mailbox is full..

Anyway its a 1969 hemi charger export,auto trans in A4 silver.

hello & welcome  , would like to see pictures  sometime  

I know of  69 charger   hemi , auto   ,   A4  no vinyl top  black interior  ,  was is  in Sweden or  Norway  , Netherlands , that sort of area , was owned by a guy called Roel ?   was is painted satin black  with a orange bumble  stripe

Spot on,thats the car.We have around 10-12 hemichargers (68-71) here in sweden. This car was in Germany,mopar collector had it then sold to sweden about 2 years ago. The car is now close to finished in original color. But the car is not restored to 100% factory spec but close.

[Ghoste]

Mailbox will work now.

[fc7_plumcrazy]

Hi,

I was the german owner

Car sold new in switzerland.
Had three owners there.
I sold it back in 2001 to my friend Roel from the netherlands.
He sold it to sweden.

It is uncommon optioned compared to the cars ordered in the US/Canada. So it will -probably- be a 1of1 but there is no way to prove it at all.
Factory Y09 export car.

Factory A4 car, no v-top, stripe delete car.
automatic with 3,23 gears, no HiPo axle package
Has power windows,PDB,PS, console, tach

I think it looked very different being a non v-top, stripe delete car, steel wheels (silver) and dog dishes.

If I remember correctly your friend has put a stripe on it now.

Carsten

[Ghoste]

Stripe delete is relatively uncommon but those other things aren't all that unusual.

[fc7_plumcrazy]

really?
Are there many HEMI Chargers with power windows?
I know a lot of regular Chargers or RT/SEs have power windows but on a Hemi car it is rare in my opinion.
How many Hemis are known to have them?

Carsten

[Ghoste]

Not rare enough to make a significant difference in value.  As stated, when you start breaking things down like a Marti Report nearly any car can be made out to be a one of or nearly so.  My 67 has a factory vinyl top, factory woodgrain wheel, factory disc brakes, factory dual exterior mirrors and factory Sure Grip.  I challenge you to find another one exactly like it.  Know what its worth?  Exactly the same as every other rusty 383 equipped 67 Charger.
The expense of the Hemi meant that anyone who could afford both it and the insurance premiums was likely able to throw a few options on there as well so typically (not always by any stretch), the Hemi cars that attract the most attention are either loaded way up or stripped bare.
I'm not trying to be a Debbie Downer, I just think the most important factor on that car is the Hemi engine with the stripe delete being second.  I'd call power windows a third on that car but thats only my opinion.  Someone else may look at that option combination and lose all self control in trying to get it.

[fc7_plumcrazy]

please don't get me wrong, too
It is not about value etc.
Just what is more rare/uncommon. Specifically for a Hemi car.

It is a Hemi with automatic but has NO hipo axle package. It has 3,23 gears with sure grip. Not to common on 69 Hemi cars. Most have some sort of an axle package.

No v-top and a stripe delete

On the inside it is more loaded: six way adjustable drivers seat, console, power windows, tinted glas all around, power disc brakes and power steering. All more related on the comfort side of driving instead of "go" options or bare bones.

Despite from the car we talking about: If it comes to value: Engine, transmission and the colour are the most important things, followed by "go" options (hi po axle package, N96 hoods etcetc) in my experience.

And you right, most Hemi cars can be made down to a 1of1 if you go into all the details.

Carsten

[Ghoste]

That is an interesting combination.  You're right clearly someone wanted comfort and style without flash.  Kind of a surprise they went with the Hemi in some ways.

[Bob T]

Would've been a neat car to own and cruise in Carsten, nice one  Monty said you had a few cool cars

Congrats  to the new owner too

[six-tee-nine]

The fact that does make it definatly a 1 of 1 is the export issue.

How many 69 HEMI Chargers were sold in Europe as a factory car?, not imported over the years by enthusiasts....

OK I get Ghoste's point also would that make it worth more. probably not but a real #'s matching HEMI car over here is gonna bring more than any other car around here...

[Ghoste]

Very true, regional factors can play a big part too.

[Davtona]

really?
Are there many HEMI Chargers with power windows?
I know a lot of regular Chargers or RT/SEs have power windows but on a Hemi car it is rare in my opinion.
How many Hemis are known to have them?

Carsten

I've wondered this same question. I know of another 69 Hemi Charger with power windows & stripe delete. I have personally never seen another one with power windows until now. Stripe delete yes, power windows no. May not be the rarest of rare but power windows on any Hemi car is rare. 

[charge69]

I've never seen, in person, any Charger with power windows although it is not considered rare. I've only seen, in person, one other original HemiCharger other than mine and neither one had power windows, including mine.

[Ghoste]

Power windows weren't a common option by todays standards in most of the cars of that time but they were most certainly not unheard of by any stretch either.  I've seen a fair number of 69 Chargers with power windows and quite a number were Hemi cars.

[fc7_plumcrazy]

The fact that does make it definatly a 1 of 1 is the export issue.

How many 69 HEMI Chargers were sold in Europe as a factory car?, not imported over the years by enthusiasts....

It is the only one I know of.
There has been a fair amount of Hemi cars sold new here in europe (like all the french Hemi Cudas 70/71), I know a few other Hemi E-Bodys (including the FC7 Hemi Cuda CV sold new in the UK, now back in the US) and some 66/67 models (including several satellites, a 67 GTX and the silver 67 Hemi-door in Finland). But the low end models like RR/Super Bee haven't been sold here at all when new. The A4 silver one is -out of my head- the only Y09 car I can think of.

I know there are some Y09 Chargers sold in middle/southern america.

Carsten

[472 R/T SE]

So in '69 is the base performance axle package set @ 3:23 like '70? 

[moparfan53]

Power windows weren't a common option by todays standards in most of the cars of that time but they were most certainly not unheard of by any stretch either.  I've seen a fair number of 69 Chargers with power windows and quite a number were Hemi cars.

Ghoste, if you have easy access to the info Chris had on his site, there was info about various options. I think it showed power windows on about 2 or 3% of Charger production.

[moparfan53]

So in '69 is the base performance axle package set @ 3:23 like '70? 

1969/1970 were the same.

Hemi automatic had 3.23/8.75/single track (not sure-grip) as standard equipment.

Hemi 4speed had 3.54/Dana/sure-grip as standard equipment.

[Ghoste]

Power windows weren't a common option by todays standards in most of the cars of that time but they were most certainly not unheard of by any stretch either.  I've seen a fair number of 69 Chargers with power windows and quite a number were Hemi cars.

Ghoste, if you have easy access to the info Chris had on his site, there was info about various options. I think it showed power windows on about 2 or 3% of Charger production.

I do and I agree but I stand by my words.  Not common but not unheard of and of Hemi cars that I have seen with my own eyes, not toal number of Hemi cars just the ones I have seen, a fair number had power windows.  To be fair, if they made fifteen Hemi cars with power windows and those were the only ones I had seen, then I might have said "all the Hemi cars I've seen had them".  My wording may not have been the clearest.

[472 R/T SE]

So in '69 is the base performance axle package set @ 3:23 like '70?  

1969/1970 were the same.

Hemi automatic had 3.23/8.75/single track (not sure-grip) as standard equipment.

Hemi 4speed had 3.54/Dana/sure-grip as standard equipment.

So that would mean the standard Hemi application car would come with the 22" radiator just like persay the '70 V code?  

[hemigeno]

So that would mean the standard Hemi application car would come with the 22" radiator just like persay the '70 V code?  

Sales Code E74 (Hemi engine) added N51 Max Cooling by default and regardless of whether an axle package was added, so there "shouldn't" be any 22" radiator Hemicars from the factory at least for '68-71 AFAIK.

[Ghoste]

I've never seen one.  (but that doesn't mean much)

[moparfan53]

So in '69 is the base performance axle package set @ 3:23 like '70?  

1969/1970 were the same.

Hemi automatic had 3.23/8.75/single track (not sure-grip) as standard equipment.

Hemi 4speed had 3.54/Dana/sure-grip as standard equipment.

So that would mean the standard Hemi application car would come with the 22" radiator just like persay the '70 V code?  

No, not at all. As already mentioned by hemigeno, Hemi cars, both auto and 4spd, got the 26" rad as standard equipment. Standard rads on 440 cars was 22" for auto, 26" for 4spd.

Below is info from the 1970 dealer data book and the service manual.

[472 R/T SE]

I apologize geno, didn't see your post.

I was wondering if the Hemi motor had the same option as the 3:23 22" radiator V coded rigs'.

My buddy always said Hemi's run cooler & I found that out after I put mine in.  Not a whole lot, but noticeable.

It's not the '70 model year I was questioning, thanks though fan53.

[Ghoste]

There is truth to that, it has to do with the surface to volume in the Hemi I believe.