Did WB not give a GL to Waylon Jennings?

[Ghoste]

And what happened to the car if they did?

[JB400]

I was under the impression that he did get one.  

[hatersaurusrex]

Honestly, I'd rather have the custom Telecaster he used on the show's intro.   A Charger I have, a WJ Tele, I do not

[GL#10]

Waylon had a General , but it was built for him   by someone other than the W.B  , it was never screen used .

[BY RSCO]

The General that he had was sold at his estate auction
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1817&dat=20001220&id=KMcnAAAAIBAJ&sjid=sqcEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6877,4107358

[472 R/T SE]

Did Wooten get one? 

[1974dodgecharger]

did everyone get one? 

[472 R/T SE]

did everyone get one? 

No, no, no.   

That was all a misunderstanding.   

[1974dodgecharger]

well, they could of seems everyone is popping out of the wood work these days saying they got one. Seems all the actors have sold theirs or are selling them now and trying to comman a premium for them. 

[kab69440]

One of the rags did an article on Waylon's car years ago. It was apparently built for him after remarkimg about what a good-looking car the close-up General was.

[Ghoste]

Did WB commission any for people associated with the show?

[GL#10]

Did WB commission any for people associated with the show?

None  , the cast didn't even get one of the General's when the show was cancelled , the remaining cars sat out on the Valencia Oaks ranch for six years after the show was cancelled .
  The W.B offered the remaining cars to a bunch of people  , no one wanted them , which worked out well for Wayne Wooten and the dodge charger registry .

The only other cars built with the permission of the W.B where the GLE cars , built to tour the country for the World of Wheels show's .

[Ghoste]

None at all?  There sure are a lot of false claims out there huh?

[Mike DC]

  
Yeah.  A bunch of cast members have had GLs built over the years but none of them were WB-associated cars.


The closest one is arguably John Schneider's infamous Hemi "$10 million dollar GL."   He put the car together on his own in the 1990s just for personal use.  Then WB recruited it to use in the last DOH reunion special in 2000.  They didn't designate any specific hero-car GL for that production in 2000 but JS's car did get significant screen time.  



The TV series ended in 1985, and the next-generation Jessica Simpson movie was filmed in 2004.  Warner Bros only ever had/used 4 General Lees in between that time.  One was a TV series survivor they had kept, two were built in 1996 for the reunion shows, and the other was John Schnieder's car. 
     

[Ghoste]

Do all the false claims bother the DOH fans much or do you just kind of shrug it off and buyer beware?

[tan top]

remember reading about Waylons GL in a mopar mag  long time  ago 20 plus years    maybe  ,
thought sure it read , was actually used in the show  , or the end credits of the later series ,  the one you see going round & round the tree , with out a roll bar , may be im remembering  this wrong guys so don't quote me on this was a long time ago ,  will have a search for the mag ,  not sure if still got it ,   as I gave hundreds away recently  
will post here , when & if  

[Indygenerallee]

I remember reading several different places that each cast member got one of the cars once WB finished the series, I could see WB doing that just to get rid of some cars that were left over.... but who knows for sure...

[GL#10]

None at all?  There sure are a lot of false claims out there huh?

None where given to the cast ,  yes there are a lot of false claims and clones being passed off as screen used,  i had a guy at a show with a clone , telling people it was a screen used GL
despite it having black interior , wrong decals , wrong pushbar etc ,  but John schneinder  autographed the dash , so that must have been what made it screen used .

Yes John's GL was used in the 2nd tv series reunion , so it is counted as a screen used GL . Waylon's GL  a replica , not screen used .

[CornDogsCharger]

Here are a couple pictures of Waylon's car.  These were taken before he passed away and the car was still in his possession.  You can see the pushbar is not even right.  If WB would have built the car, they would have at least had the right pushbar.  Plus, the car also has black interior.

Justin
"CornDog"

[Ghoste]

At least it has a Waylon connection.  Is its whereabouts known or does the DOH community much care about the Waylon connection on that one?

[Indygenerallee]

I think CMT gave the Waylon car away in a giveaway contest several years back.

[Brock Lee]

I think CMT gave the Waylon car away in a giveaway contest several years back.

They gave away a car they had built. It wasn't very well done, in accuracy or quality of workmanship. It appears every once in a while and lots of bad body work was creeping back.

[Mike DC]

Do all the false claims bother the DOH fans much or do you just kind of shrug it off and buyer beware?

There's just nothing anyone can do about it.

There have been so many cars falsely sold as real ones for so long .  .  . it's hopeless.  We'll never have any idea of what a real GL's true value would have been if all those buyers had been competing for the same two dozen actual cars all this time.  



If you're in the market for a real one then it's not too difficult to find out whether a car is legit or not.  You can always wait for one to come up for sale and bid on it.   The VIN numbers and trains of ownership on them are known.

If you don't care enough to learn the difference, then there are plenty of other people ready to sell you a much nicer condition "real one" with no legit show connection and all the details wrong.
       

[Ghoste]

Hmm, frustrating I bet.  They are certainly a unique niche market in the car hobby in so many ways aren't they?

[Brock Lee]

Hmm, frustrating I bet.  They are certainly a unique niche market in the car hobby in so many ways aren't they?

Niche market is absolutely right. There is certainly desirability in real ones. However, most of the guys that desire them are lucky if they can afford to cobble together a clone. The desirability amongst those with the funds to pay what many "real General Lee" owners expect is very, very limited. Many of those guys would rather buy a nice clone that looks great and is well done. It is a better "bang for the buck" than the rough looking and often rough running prop used on the TV show. Because of this selling real ones tends to take some time for the right guy with the cash and the desire to come along.

[CornDogsCharger]

Yeah, it kind of bugs me when someone passes off a replica as being a read deal car. The owners/sellers of these cars are always the same. You try to give them the benefit of the doubt, like maybe they bought the car themselves as a "real" car.  So you contact them to let them know the truth. You will either get no response, or you will get a response where they are all defensive, with their feelings hurt, and they still try to make you believe that the car indeed is real.  There is a handful of people like Mike DC, myself, and many more have been following the real deal cars for a number of years.  It's funny how many fakes go up for sale when in reality, there have only been a small number of real cars have actually hit the market lately.

If I can ever find the time, I plan to build an information webpage... Sort of a go-to page for anyone interested in the real surviving cars.  It will have all TV, Reunion, and Movie General Lees on it. I honestly feel like Waylon's car has very much importance, along with "General Lee Enterprises" show cars and a few others.  Enough importance that even they will have a spot on the web page as an "honorable mention... But not screen used" car.

I own one of the two cars that Mike DC mentioned above. In 1996, WB purchased my car and another to go along with the car they already had.  All three cars were freshened up to be used in the made-for-tv Reunion movies in 1997 and 2000.  The three went on to be used in the 2005 and 2007 Movies. I acquired my car in Oct 2009.

Justin
"CornDog"

[Mike DC]

 
Yeah, I figured I'd let you say where the jumped 1996 car eventually went. 


As Brock said, most of the people willing to put big money into a GL would rather have a nice replica.  The originals were unusably rough as they left Warner Bros.  Their overall build quality was too low to make them presentable with anything short of a ground-up resto.  But that exterior appearance from the TV show is what makes them interesting.
   

 

[Brock Lee]

Honestly, I'd rather have the custom Telecaster he used on the show's intro.   A Charger I have, a WJ Tele, I do not

I missed this before. Just because you may find it interesting..Waylon had many of those Tele's (some were even Esquires with an added neck pickup and changed decal). Like General Lee's, there are many out there, some he owned, some he didn't own, claiming to be "the one" used on the Duke's intro. However, years ago I found the actual guitar from the intro. You know who owns it? Keith Richards! He didn't know and doesn't even care about that part of the guitars history. Once belonging to Waylon is all that matters to him. He actually takes it out on the road on occasion. It still looks exactly like it did.

[tan top]

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[tan top]

remember reading about Waylons GL in a mopar mag  long time  ago 20 plus years    maybe  ,
thought sure it read , was actually used in the show  , or the end credits of the later series ,  the one you see going round & round the tree , with out a roll bar , may be im remembering  this wrong guys so don't quote me on this was a long time ago ,  will have a search for the mag ,  not sure if still got it ,   as I gave hundreds away recently  
will post here , when & if  

ok found said article  ,  who knows how true article is  , cause it says doors wernt welded either  , ! I did not think any were really  welded   ?? unless it was just the big jump cars etc
 it does say was used in show , no roll bar , I remember now , it was ME assuming ( adding two & two together & coming up with 7     )  that with no roll bar it was the one driving round & round the tree , at the end credits of the later shows  , also  there was another in one in  one show used with out a roll bar from memory.

like I say I was assuming back then , (  the  GL & DOH  mob   ,  know the  true story & all about this stuff    )

waylons general has been restored  since the article & pictures below  were taken ,

[Ghoste]

I wonder, did he ever actually go to the set to see an episode filmed or meet cast and crew?  I know there would be no need to of course so thats why I wonder if he did.

[tan top]

yeah , he was actually in it ! as him self  , it was a two parter I think from memory , although was a long time ago since I saw it , 84 /84ish  

 couple of bit from youtube


  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP1xF1_DjiA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIkImOEj050

[MoparManJim]

yeah , he was actually in it ! as him self  , it was a two parter I think from memory , although was a long time ago since I saw it , 84 /84ish  

 couple of bit from youtube


  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP1xF1_DjiA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIkImOEj050

It was an episode from I do belive season 7 of the Dukes of Hazzard. the episode is about him and the Dukes helping each other and them talking about how Jesse knew Waylon and how they became friends back in Uncle Jesse's younger days.

[Ghoste]

Okay, don't recall that one but now that you say it I do recall a spell there where they frequently had country stars of the day on there.

[Mike DC]

          

Waylon didn't make his appearance until the last season of the show when things had gotten really cheesy.  At that point the cast & crew were being given something like 8 days to shoot each episode, they were using miniatures for some of the car stunts, etc.  The producers had been gradually cutting the show's resources down for the last few seasons to see how much profit they could milk out of it before it died.    



Most (but not all) of the country music star appearances in Hazzard were the "Celebrity Speedtrap".  Various big-name country music stars would get bogus traffic fines when their tour busses passed through Hazzard, which had to be worked off by doing a show at the Boars' Nest.  It was basically an excuse to open or close an episode with the singer's appearance. They would sing a song, the crowd would applaud, the star would make a comment about Roscoe forcing them into it, and then be on their way.  Those scenes were usually filmed at the end of the week/episode and it would spill over into an on-set wrap party.  

   

[cdr]

this one sold for 80k wow

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Charger-Charger-1969-dodge-charger-general-lee-/291022630685?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item43c24cef1d&vxp=mtr

[cdr]

[cdr]

GYC fixing the jump car
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151826661982918&set=a.112264962917.99589.106340827917&type=1&relevant_count=1

[Indygenerallee]

Look at those filler covered valance and corners!!! 

[CornDogsCharger]

Here is a perfect example of what I was talking about earlier. This seller is trying to pass off a replica as Lee 1... or "GL230". One, I've never even heard of GL230 and 2, this car isn't even a good replica of the real Lee 1.  Just for a good laugh, I'd like to hear this guy's story and see his documentation.

http://bit.ly/196Jnoq

Justin
"CornDog"

[Dans 68]

I'll add what I know. When I bought my '68 in Texas the previous owner gave me a few photos of the car from the June 1997 Boerne, Texas TDG show. The back of the photo tells the tale that Wayne Wooten negotiated with Warner Bros to have the members of the TDG buy the 19 GL's left, with Waylon Jennings purchasing one. The GL shown belongs to TDG member Glen Hunt while the '68 now belongs to yours truly.    The two pics I have are below (which I have shared before in another thread).

Dan

[Ghoste]

Hmm, thats an interesting tidbit.

[JB400]

Here is a perfect example of what I was talking about earlier. This seller is trying to pass off a replica as Lee 1... or "GL230". One, I've never even heard of GL230 and 2, this car isn't even a good replica of the real Lee 1.  Just for a good laugh, I'd like to hear this guy's story and see his documentation.

http://bit.ly/196Jnoq

Justin
"CornDog"

Looks more like one that would be in the Reunion movies instead of in the series.

[myk]

Look at those filler covered valance and corners!!! 

I actually like it better that way...