oh come on now 350z...

[1974dodgecharger]

you cant be serious......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibG7N-CGa3U

[chargerboy69]

I have seen some sweet 350Z's. . . . this one was not one of them.  Like the guys taking the video says, he went to Pep Boys and bought everything he could.

[Ghoste]

Rice is just not my thing and this is a good example why. 

[dyslexic teddybear]

Old family saying come to mind.......

"More money then brains"

I think the same thing when I see a "mall crawler" too.

[6spd68]

Oh 'car guys' that know nothing of what they're driving...    

[tan top]

    that guy has  got to be doing that for a Dare surly      

[myk]

Lemme get this straight-two guys in a car with a wing bigger than the car they were making fun of decided to follow and confront the "ricer?"  I don't know about you guys but I work about 50 hours a week and I wish I had the time to drive around making fun of people and their idiotic cars.  All sorts of fail going on with that video.  Those guys need to get a life!

[rt green]

I saw a 350z with a jimme johns thing on the roof top the other day. it was a wtf moment

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Dare to be different?  haters gonna hate! 

[charge69]

Dare to be different?  haters gonna hate! 

Ain't that the truth !!!

[1974dodgecharger]

PART DUX!!!!

guy in the 350z saids he has a 'K and M supercharger' and runs it at '14 psi' lol.....oh boy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PlYlLaxV38


Well at least the kids driving are driving a SRT4 neon  you can hear the blow off valve go off and the SRT4 wing.

[myk]

I'd rather drive a 350 than a "Skittle" any day; don't care how much faster the Skittle is...

[6spd68]

I'd rather drive a 350 than a "Skittle" any day; don't care how much faster the Skittle is...

Agreed

I'd go with an all black Fairlady-Z if I had the opportunity and available funds.

[bill440rt]

Dare to be different?  haters gonna hate! 

Don't hate the playa! 

[chargd72]

Part 2 is pretty funny too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PlYlLaxV38

Lemme get this straight-two guys in a car with a wing bigger than the car they were making fun of decided to follow and confront the "ricer?"  I don't know about you guys but I work about 50 hours a week and I wish I had the time to drive around making fun of people and their idiotic cars.  All sorts of fail going on with that video.  Those guys need to get a life!

Not a fan of either but there is a difference between a "ricer" and a "tuner".  My guess is the car the guys filming were in was a Mitsubishi Eclipse.  It did sound properly built and did have some sort of forced induction.  I can appreciate when cars a properly built for performance even though I wouldn't be caught dead owning one of those.

[Ghoste]

And at least both groups have an interest in cars.  They aren't cars that excite me at all but it has to better than joining Sierra Club and pushing for anti car legislation or something.

[1974dodgecharger]

I'd rather drive a 350 than a "Skittle" any day; don't care how much faster the Skittle is...

but myk would you rather drive his 350z or your very own 350z.  My point of the posting is that I would rather drive the kids SRT4 vs that guys 350z.  He put a fake blower on there, claims a supercharger that does not exist, labels all around etc. 

Yes the 350z is better vehicle than that SRT4 sure, but between the two cars in that video that 350z blows vs the SRT4.

[Silver R/T]

350z is definitely better car than neon, even though neon is fast, it's still a neon. 350z holds its value much better and is more desirable than neon. You can rice out any car, from neon to Ferrari.

[Ghoste]

I`d rather have the Neon. 

[JB400]

I'd rather not be in a situation to where I'd have to pick one just to get home.

[hatersaurusrex]

350z is definitely better car than neon, even though neon is fast, it's still a neon. 350z holds its value much better and is more desirable than neon. You can rice out any car, from neon to Ferrari.

Mopar or no car.  Unless it's a Neon.  Then I pick no car.

[odcics2]

I've owned a few Neons.  I had no issues with any of them...   
Gotta ask, how many have you owned?   

[Lord Warlock]

The eclipse and the 97 3000GT both have a wing similar to that one.   and it came stock that way, not that it wasn't a bit over the top when it came out.  The 99 3000GT had one even worse.  at least the turbo 3kgt is fairly respectable without many mods.  A boost controller and a downpipe to increase flow will wake those up pretty nice.  Don't even need fart can mufflers.   

Have to admit the 350z was a bit overboard with stick ons, why anyone would put a hilborn style scoop on the hood of a 350z is beyond me.  Just goes to show that pep boys stocks those for a reason, some moron will buy them to look cool. 

I don't usually drive around dissing rice, pretty much think any of the tuner cars or jap cars are a joke if they put a big muffler on the back.  There are a few that can get up and go though, the wrx, the 3kgt/stealth, and supra all can usually outrun many of the 60s musclecars without breaking a sweat, but many of them look pretty gross even before they start gluing foreign objects to the hoods.  Own a stealth turbo, and love  the banana spoiler that came with it, actually worked very well at speeds over 120mph.  It'll out accelerate the charger r/t and most of the mustangs I've had, but were expensive to maintain compared to any of the other cars i've had.

[spoolinhard]

I've owned a few Neons.  I had no issues with any of them...   
Gotta ask, how many have you owned?   

I do!!! Love it, would part with my charger before my srt any day of the week.

[Ghoste]

Thats a strong statement. 

[spoolinhard]

Thats a strong statement. 

As I feel strongly about my neon

[dyslexic teddybear]

Neons.... for the most part, have been good experiences. Maybe not the best cars I ever had, but better then the worst. My son in law beat his mercilessly, and it held up better then what he has now, a wrx. That thing may be a bit faster, but yeah, it's costing him a lot to keep on the road.

Ricer/tuners in general suffer from more then their share of moronic owners. The majority seem to have the worst attitude.....adding a fart can and a stupid wing, does NOT make it a 10 second car.

And why, WHY......do the body kits have to make them so ugly?

So few are done well, and they do stand out. It's not my style, but I have been impressed more then a couple of times.

[1974dodgecharger]

I have a hard time believing some folks hate the neon SRT4 model.  The SRT4 model was to compete with the young crowd to whoo them over from a bone stock civic. 

I hope people do know what dodge did with the SRT4, beefed up alot of the componenets, turbo, etc..they added things that were performanced added and not just for show like the civic owners did.  There are some 12sec SRT4s out there just by turning up the boost and some creating 400 plus HP with it.  Most I ever heard in stock form is 500 or so he had it at 40 psi of boost though and engine still going strong, granted he does not go crazy all day.

[Lord Warlock]

Just because a car had an SRT badge, didn't mean it was a great car,  souped up yes, but i wasn't impressed with the srt4 or the srt6 crossfire.  The srt8's have all been pretty respectable.  The srt4 neon still felt like a neon, and looked like a neon, but it brought the performance level up a bit to compete with the honda crowd.   I wouldn't mind letting my daughter drive an srt4 neon, but i won't be getting one for myself, no respectable 440 owner will accept a 4 cyl as a daily.  (I got the variable cyl 5.7 so the car could decide if it needed 4 or 8 cylinders, but it still had a v8 under the hood. 

[dyslexic teddybear]

interesting......

I'm into torque monsters. Cummins type torque monsters. I have three. One put's out enough torque to make a 440 blush. I've had BBs. Fun also.

So would a self respecting Cummins owner buy a SRT4?  

This one would.

[Ghoste]

The SRT4 model was to compete with the young crowd to whoo them over from a bone stock civic. 

Exactly.  It wasn't meant to win the guy with the V8 love or the minivan.

[dyslexic teddybear]

The SRT4 model was to compete with the young crowd to whoo them over from a bone stock civic.  

Exactly.  It wasn't meant to win the guy with the V8 love or the minivan.

Very true.

And I'll bet there is more then a few 440 owners out there that will not admit to being spanked by a Neon.  

A few years ago......Mopar day at the closest strip....a group of 4 Neons were consistently in the 11.4/11.6 range.

I was impressed.

[War wagon]

I have my own take on this.
I owned a 68 Charger years ago when Subaru announced they were releasing the WRX in North America. I had owned the car for 9 yrs at the time and only got to use it for one year before having to park it due to rust issues.
Subaru announced the WRX and I decided I needed a quick daily driver more than the charger and my Dakota..
So I sold my Dodges and but the import
Well for 11yrs I worked on that car and made it faster and faster LOL , just can't leave well enough alone when it comes to cars LOL
Quick recap of the Wagon in E.T's.... Stock it went 15.86@86mph , then came 13's, 12's, 11's, 10's and finally the BEST pass I ever made was 9.76@142mph at Armdrop Live Toronto Motorsports Park in front of thousands of people.
Car was still street driven and full interior ( minus back seat for cage)
Well I can tell you first hand driving an import with 33psi of boost on the street is dangerous. My car had 2 GEARS LEFT IN THE TRANNY AT 150mph!!!
I was clocked on the straight at Mosport doing 176mph and I still had one gear left. This was a STREET car  

After 11yrs of owning it and putting up with the comments of people, being profiled by the police for driving a import I got sick of owing it. Rather than sell it intact and have the car kill someone I parted it out. It made 624WHP last time on Dyno...

I'm sure some videos are still kicking on YouTube of me, since I was the first Subaru in Canada quicker than 11.49, then the first in the 10's etc....
Car was known as WARWAGON

The whole time I had the car I never lost my love of MOPARS and raced along side my dad and all are friends with my import.. Some wouldn't race me, but most were like me and just wanted to go fast and have fun

Well it's been gone for 3yrs now and I don't miss it one bit... Might miss the speed but I sure don't miss all the headaches associated with that car.
In the 11yrs years I owned it I missed my Charger EVERY SINGLE DAY

So.....

As soon as it was parted I bought another Charger and this one isn't going anywhere.

My   is the 350Z is a wanna be and has no clue just like the kids in the video pointed out.

[War wagon]

[War wagon]

Btw for the SRT Fans the fastest I know of in Ontario Canada is 10.70, not bad for wrong wheel drive

[War wagon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qV7obuLPCA

found a 10 sec pass still up

[odcics2]

Good story!   

[War wagon]

Good story!   

Thanks

A pic of the 68 I had years ago that was sold...


A pic of my new baby

[Ghoste]

The Subaru wasn't white was it? 

[War wagon]

The Subaru wasn't white was it? 

LOL ya that's it 
I will say as a mid forty something guy I just didn't suit that car. People almost expect a punk kid to get out LMAO
But there is NO substitute for a real car!! Namely a gen 2 charger.
If I cruised the beech in the subie, folks would tell me my car looks like I'm having a midlife crisis....
Cruise the same beech in the charger and get all kinds of compliments and cat calls lol. From young to old they ALL  love the charger and want a ride.
In 11yrs owning the subie no beautiful women ever asked for a ride, in fact I'm sure it turned a lot of women off. The charger has NO ISSUES in that dept.

My 25 yr old son is glad I bought another charger , my 12 yr old daughter wants the subie back lol

[Ghoste]

In all seriousness though, I do like the fact that the 68 and 69 both ended up the same color.  Was that by design or just the way it happened?

[1974dodgecharger]

The SRT4 model was to compete with the young crowd to whoo them over from a bone stock civic. 

Exactly.  It wasn't meant to win the guy with the V8 love or the minivan.

yup, car for car as in civic vs SRT4 I would take the SRT4.  68 charger vs SRT4, well its obviously what we would take.

IM only comparing apples to apples here nothing more not SRT4 vs V8 muscle. 

as for the videos im laughing my ass off about the 350Z...I dont even think some of the folks who responded watched the video or understood what was going on, but more concentrated on that SRT4 for some odd reason.

[War wagon]

In all seriousness though, I do like the fact that the 68 and 69 both ended up the same color.  Was that by design or just the way it happened?

The way I see it, it was fate! LOL
The 68 was spiniker white when I bought and originally a B5 blue car. I the years I owned it the color grew on me. Every time I opened a Mopar mag there was a lime green or orange or some other hi impact color on most cars in the magazines. I have only seen a few white chargers in person in the last 30 yrs or so and I liked the fact that it's unique.
When it came time for a new Mopar, I had a short list of cars I would like to own.
71 Cuda, 68-70 charger, 62 dart, 63 fury, 71 demon ahhh who am I kidding lmao , I like them all....

So while surfing the classifieds I spied this white 69 that was an older resto, but Appeared to be in good shape.
As soon as I saw the car in person , things just seemed to fall into place. I stopped looking at the classifieds and couldn't let this white 69 get away.
Originally a A4 Silver 383 4bbl SE now spiniker white cloned to be an R/T
After driving it for the past couple summers and finally racking up some miles I've really come too appreciate the white color. Keeps the heat down inside the car and it's like a stealth mobile on the road.
Lots of folks don't give a white car a second look. Until I pass them and they here the exhaust then their heads spin too see what just went by 
One thing is for sure, this charger and I are in it till the end
I am slowly building the car up to run with the big dogs, import or otherwise. I have a reputation to maintain lol

[Ghoste]

It looks great to be sure, I love silver about the best to tell you the truth, but that car does look great.  Hang on to that rep.

[Dino]

War wagon do you have more pics of the 69?  I want to see what my car looks like without the vinyl top.

[War wagon]

War wagon do you have more pics of the 69?  I want to see what my car looks like without the vinyl top.

Dino, that's a beautiful car you have 😉 it's funny cause I was looking at pics of yours thinking mine might need a vynil top somewhere down the road. And maybe the black accent stripes in the hood scallops. LOL

Here are a few pics for ya..

[Dino]

Sweet!   

Your car looks awesome!   

You need to paint those side marker bezels though.   

I couldn't tell from the smaller pic if you had a white vinyl top or a painted roof.  I like either one.  I do like the black top but it took me a while to get used to it.  I was never a big fan of tops on muscle but it has grown on me, and my wife absolutely loves it.  I agree that the whole black and white thing is pretty nice.

You just reminded me to order those decals, mine are getting old and I need to remove them to give the hood the V21 treatment anyway.

[Ghoste]

The Charger rooflines lend themselves to the top.  I'm not a big fan of the top on musclecars either but the Chargers just seem to pull it off so well.

[War wagon]

Sweet!   

Your car looks awesome!   

You need to paint those side marker bezels though.   

Thanks for the compliment and pointing out the side marker bezels  

[Ghoste]

I like the bezels that way.

[War wagon]

That's the engine bay from the wagon
While it looks ricey, I can assure you everything there was serving a purpose

No fake scoops, scallops etc on that car. In fact I had removed the hood scoop cause it served no purpose once I went to a front mount intercooler. Took soooooo much flak for that car..
Subaru guys hated it, wasn't a rally car or time attack car, drag strip guys took ALONG TIME to accept it and some just wouldn't .

And for me , well it just wasn't a Mopar.  

[Ghoste]

How much was invested under there?

[War wagon]

How much was invested under there?

Far too much
Let's just say I could have bought a Niiice HEMI wing car with what ended up in that car during my need for speed. And I took a huge loss getting rid of it.
There was 27k in the motor alone without turbo setup. 6500 just in machine work. Darton sleeves, heli coiled 1/2" head studs to keep heads on block , o-ringed etc etc
It was truly a daily driver gone wrong, that car had 3 motors, 6 turbos, 3 trannys,countless axles, and many other parts over the years.
I bought it new, and proceeded to put 330,000kms on the street with it. This wasn't a toy that got used on wknds.
Took a very long time and a lot of learning to make things bulletproof for the abuse it saw.
Car launched at 7000rpm on 4 slicks with AWD, 0-60 in 2.1 secs
Would I do it all again......
NO F#%*^+*# Way!!!

Hindsight is 20/20 thou isn't it...

[War wagon]

Ricer??? Tuner??? You decide 

[odcics2]

   ok gang, a new word:   Ticer !       

    (sounded better than Runer...)

[Ghoste]

 

[War wagon]

 

THE MORAL OF THIS STORY.....All the faux stick ons, decals, body kits in the world don't add up to a MOPAR

There will always be non car guys giving the rest of us entertainment with their take on things as seen in that video LOL



JUST SAY NO

Thank god know one has defiled a charger with those stick on scoops etc

[wingcar]

The "original" 350z shown in the U-tube video is noting more than a
"Cal Custom Special"  (Build your own with parts from any Wal-mart, Pep-boys, or other fine automotive stores near you.....)   

[hatersaurusrex]

You guys notice that the account name for the kid who posted the video is 'nottasrt' as in 'not a SRT'.  There's a good chance it's a riced neon with a wing which makes all the ridicule 100% valid.

[6spd68]

You guys notice that the account name for the kid who posted the video is 'nottasrt' as in 'not a SRT'.  There's a good chance it's a riced neon with a wing which makes all the ridicule 100% valid.

Since I've heard this countless times, I'll repeat the Neon owners ultimate quote...

"It's not a Neon! It's an SX 2.0!"  LOL!!!

[Dino]

You guys notice that the account name for the kid who posted the video is 'nottasrt' as in 'not a SRT'.  There's a good chance it's a riced neon with a wing which makes all the ridicule 100% valid.

There's two t's in not?

[hatersaurusrex]

You guys notice that the account name for the kid who posted the video is 'nottasrt' as in 'not a SRT'.  There's a good chance it's a riced neon with a wing which makes all the ridicule 100% valid.

There's two t's in not?

Nope, but notta could be.  As in 'whole lotta love' or 'alotta fagina'

[1974dodgecharger]

I love rice.....

[bill440rt]

Allotta, who??