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Shaker hood back for 2014 Challenger

Started by odcics2, November 05, 2013, 09:24:03 PM

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Quote from: odcics2 on November 07, 2013, 03:31:13 PM
Very good question!

You can bet that some insurance companies would try to wiggle out of a claim!   


If you change the chip in a car and the engine blows, it's not covered...    Yeah - very good question...


Quote from: 6spd68 on November 07, 2013, 03:45:36 PM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on November 07, 2013, 01:38:01 PM

So if you replace the factory hood with a aftermarket one, it voids all warranties in a crash ?

Flip that around a bit... You're driving along the highway, aftermarket hood installed.  It releases, smashes your window, blocks your vision.  You end up driving into a ditch, hitting a tree, and killing the passenger next to you...

Chrysler holds no responsibility as YOU were the one who had a non-original part installed on YOUR car.

Same situation with a stock hood?  Different outcome, and grounds for a suit/recall...

I didn't know we had so many products liability / negligence lawyers here. But the answer is ..."it depends" (on a LOT of things).

As far as insurance trying to wiggle out of a claim if youre aftermarket hood gets smashed...they'll be more than happy to put whatever you want on the car as long as it's cheaper. Happened to me...rear ended a car, my carbon fiber SRT style hood had some damage (hardly noticeable, I ended up reselling it later). Installing a factory "flat" hood would have been more expensive than getting me another CF hood by a few hundred dollars...so you bet your ass the insurance approved it when the body shop sent the request.

Changing the chip is different and its pretty obvious why it isn't covered. Though I have a few buddies who are chrysler techs and they said up until a year or two ago, they weren't being trained on how to spot that. They'd only check for that if the same customer came back more than once with the same failure. 
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ACUDANUT

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Quote from: Ponch ® on November 07, 2013, 07:50:12 PM
I didn't know we had so many products liability / negligence lawyers here. But the answer is ..."it depends" (on a LOT of things).

I wouldn't go that far...  I'm merely working off general knowledge of the law, and common sense.  :cheers:
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Quote from: Ponch ® on November 07, 2013, 07:50:12 PM

As far as insurance trying to wiggle out of a claim if youre aftermarket hood gets smashed...they'll be more than happy to put whatever you want on the car as long as it's cheaper. Happened to me...rear ended a car, my carbon fiber SRT style hood had some damage (hardly noticeable, I ended up reselling it later). Installing a factory "flat" hood would have been more expensive than getting me another CF hood by a few hundred dollars...so you bet your ass the insurance approved it when the body shop sent the request.



The insurance company "should" be covering whatever is installed on the car, or it's monetary value, as long as it is legal and/or DOT certified.
If your flat hood got smashed, that's what they would owe.
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Quote from: bill440rt on November 08, 2013, 05:22:28 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 07, 2013, 07:50:12 PM

As far as insurance trying to wiggle out of a claim if youre aftermarket hood gets smashed...they'll be more than happy to put whatever you want on the car as long as it's cheaper. Happened to me...rear ended a car, my carbon fiber SRT style hood had some damage (hardly noticeable, I ended up reselling it later). Installing a factory "flat" hood would have been more expensive than getting me another CF hood by a few hundred dollars...so you bet your ass the insurance approved it when the body shop sent the request.



The insurance company "should" be covering whatever is installed on the car, or it's monetary value, as long as it is legal and/or DOT certified.
If your flat hood got smashed, that's what they would owe.

Over here, as long as you specify all modifications, you're covered. It's the stuff you haven't told them about that they can use to get out of paying a claim.


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Ponch ®

Quote from: bill440rt on November 08, 2013, 05:22:28 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 07, 2013, 07:50:12 PM

As far as insurance trying to wiggle out of a claim if youre aftermarket hood gets smashed...they'll be more than happy to put whatever you want on the car as long as it's cheaper. Happened to me...rear ended a car, my carbon fiber SRT style hood had some damage (hardly noticeable, I ended up reselling it later). Installing a factory "flat" hood would have been more expensive than getting me another CF hood by a few hundred dollars...so you bet your ass the insurance approved it when the body shop sent the request.



The insurance company "should" be covering whatever is installed on the car, or it's monetary value, as long as it is legal and/or DOT certified.
If your flat hood got smashed, that's what they would owe.

yeah, theyre supposed to replace whatever was on the car. In my case, since I bought the CF hood off a friend, I didn't have any receipts for it or anything, so had it been pricier than a stock hood, the insurance wouldn't have approved getting me another CF hood. Yay for overpriced factory parts...
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bill440rt

Quote from: Ponch ® on November 09, 2013, 02:20:31 PM
Quote from: bill440rt on November 08, 2013, 05:22:28 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 07, 2013, 07:50:12 PM

As far as insurance trying to wiggle out of a claim if youre aftermarket hood gets smashed...they'll be more than happy to put whatever you want on the car as long as it's cheaper. Happened to me...rear ended a car, my carbon fiber SRT style hood had some damage (hardly noticeable, I ended up reselling it later). Installing a factory "flat" hood would have been more expensive than getting me another CF hood by a few hundred dollars...so you bet your ass the insurance approved it when the body shop sent the request.



The insurance company "should" be covering whatever is installed on the car, or it's monetary value, as long as it is legal and/or DOT certified.
If your flat hood got smashed, that's what they would owe.

yeah, theyre supposed to replace whatever was on the car. In my case, since I bought the CF hood off a friend, I didn't have any receipts for it or anything, so had it been pricier than a stock hood, the insurance wouldn't have approved getting me another CF hood. Yay for overpriced factory parts...


That is strange to hear. Did the insurance co flat out tell you that?
Sounds like they reimbursed you for what was on your car: a carbon fiber hood. Cost should have been irrelevant.

Example: Someone buys a used car, with aftermarket wheels on it. New owner has no receipts for the wheels. New owner goes up a curb damaging a wheel. Through research it is found one of the wheels is $500, whereas a stock wheel is $200. What would the insurance co owe? The $500 aftermarket wheel.   
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Quote from: bill440rt on November 09, 2013, 05:08:23 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 09, 2013, 02:20:31 PM
Quote from: bill440rt on November 08, 2013, 05:22:28 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 07, 2013, 07:50:12 PM

As far as insurance trying to wiggle out of a claim if youre aftermarket hood gets smashed...they'll be more than happy to put whatever you want on the car as long as it's cheaper. Happened to me...rear ended a car, my carbon fiber SRT style hood had some damage (hardly noticeable, I ended up reselling it later). Installing a factory "flat" hood would have been more expensive than getting me another CF hood by a few hundred dollars...so you bet your ass the insurance approved it when the body shop sent the request.



The insurance company "should" be covering whatever is installed on the car, or it's monetary value, as long as it is legal and/or DOT certified.
If your flat hood got smashed, that's what they would owe.

yeah, theyre supposed to replace whatever was on the car. In my case, since I bought the CF hood off a friend, I didn't have any receipts for it or anything, so had it been pricier than a stock hood, the insurance wouldn't have approved getting me another CF hood. Yay for overpriced factory parts...


That is strange to hear. Did the insurance co flat out tell you that?
Sounds like they reimbursed you for what was on your car: a carbon fiber hood. Cost should have been irrelevant.

Example: Someone buys a used car, with aftermarket wheels on it. New owner has no receipts for the wheels. New owner goes up a curb damaging a wheel. Through research it is found one of the wheels is $500, whereas a stock wheel is $200. What would the insurance co owe? The $500 aftermarket wheel.    

yep. i asked when it happened just out of curiosity, other than the hood none of my aftermarket stuff was damaged. They will replace aftermarket stuff...as long as I can provide receipts etc. I can see why. Lots of insurance fraud going on (I know people that do that kind of thing  :rotz:). On the other hand, let's say my $1500 set of aftermarket wheels and tires had been damaged. Even though I didn't have receipts for them anymore, they probably still would have replace them because, like the hood, getting me a set of factory 18" wheels that the car came with would have cost them about $2500 at dealer price (and that's what they go by). If they can save $, theyll do it. In the meantime, you can pick up a set of practically new set of factory wheels/tires on craigslist or the forums for $300-400.  :lol:
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Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on November 07, 2013, 05:07:20 AM
Things that are not considered collectible will be collectible.  Alot of people buying the new challis and chargers are betting on they will be collectible hence why they won't be in the future let it be 20 years or so.....



Quote from: odcics2 on November 07, 2013, 04:58:00 AM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on November 06, 2013, 08:43:48 PM
Just to clarify...  I really like my Challenger; it looks good is comfortable & looks good, but I  just don't see it becoming as a collector car. I take care of it by keeping it garaged and driving it in the rain doesn't bother me, but not in the snow or havily salted roads.

Bought my 68 Charger a few years old and drove it year round, in salt, snow, etc.  (did ok, too, like all the other rear driving cars out there!!)

It was just a car, like the thousands all around you back then...    Oh, paid $750. for it - the going price!!!      43K miles from one owner!

Bottom line - who knows what will become collectable in the distant future?    We'll all be gone.  :Twocents:


I bought my 09 Challenger with out any future expectation of collector value. Much like buying a 69 Charger when it came out. I liked it and wanted to own it. I still like it and don't expect to make money when I part with it.

If some one wants to predict the future value of what they are buying it is there deal (investment?)

History shows that people buying new cars for investment don't do well. :shruggy:

I like the look of the shaker hood and would go for it if I was looking to buy a new one. :Twocents:

wingcar

I like the new shaker hood scoop set-up that Chrysler is offering.  [Question: is it a Cervini set-up?] Too bad that today Chrysler seems to wait until the aftermarket has already proven a new product before they are willing to offer it from the factory.  A few examples include CAI, Hood pins, strut bars, Sequential taillights, paddle shifters, etc, etc.  Don't get me wrong, I am glad they are offering these from the factory; [finally] it's just that it seems to take them longer than the other manufactures to actually offer what the enthusiast wants.   I guess Chrysler is no longer a leader but a follower when it comes to new trends and offerings.  But, then I am grateful for what they do offer, even if it's a bit behind the trend...and perhaps it's to Chrysler's advantage in that a product is proven before they offer it.   Perhaps I should look at it from another angle, in that they are offering what the enthusiast wants and has been asking for...therefore answering their requests. 

I love my 2008 Challenger SRT8 and purchased it to enjoy, not with an eye on its future collectability [if it indeed has any].  What fun is a car that spends most of its life in a garage....performance car are meant to be driven and enjoyed.   Enjoy your car and stop worrying about its future worth.  If it has future collectability then it just might prove to be a good investment...but if you never enjoyed it....you didn't get "YOUR" money's worth out of your investment.    {Just my 2-cents  :Twocents: for what its worth}
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All of this is all the more interesting considering that we are constantly being told that the enthusiast is an insignificant part of the market.  Even Chrysler has sometimes stated this.  And yet when someone else shows there is a dollar there to be made, they will eventually follow.

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After all, they are a business, not a charity!!   :yesnod:

About those 'cross hair grilles'...   Dodge had them on and off since the 80's.  30 YEARS ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!  lol, time flies!   
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Quote from: Ghoste on November 13, 2013, 09:53:26 AM
Don't forget the retro touches on the latest Charger.
All of this is all the more interesting considering that we are constantly being told that the enthusiast is an insignificant part of the market.  Even Chrysler has sometimes stated this.  And yet when someone else shows there is a dollar there to be made, they will eventually follow.

Good point.

Budnicks

Quote from: Ghoste on November 13, 2013, 09:53:26 AM
Don't forget the retro touches on the latest Charger.
All of this is all the more interesting considering that we are constantly being told that the enthusiast is an insignificant part of the market.  Even Chrysler has sometimes stated this.  And yet when someone else shows there is a dollar there to be made, they will eventually follow.
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