Shaker hood back for 2014 Challenger

[odcics2]

I guess if you don't piss away your money on Nascar, you can come up with stuff like this:

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20131105/AUTO0101/311050117/Did-you-hear-Chrysler-s-Shaker-hood-coming-back?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|p

[JB400]

The Scat Pack is coming back too!!!  Good news on both counts even though you could get the Shaker through the aftermarket.

[Ponch ®]

heh...shaker hood kits for new gen challenger have been in the aftermarket for years. Likely, for a lot less than what it will cost to add this as a factory option.

[oldcarnut]

Been around since 2009
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1020933_cervinis-dodge-challenger-shaker-hood-system-debuts

[odcics2]

What's worth more today? 

Original 1970 340 Challenger with a factory SHAKER, or a 1970 318 Challenger with 340 heads and a home made shaker???   

[Mytur Binsdirti]

heh...shaker hood kits for new gen challenger have been in the aftermarket for years. Likely, for a lot less than what it will cost to add this as a factory option.

A Cervini hood is about $1,800.00, plus shipping & paint so why does the factory charge $2,500.00?  


I've lost faith in the new Chrysler, or whatever they're calling themselves this week.

[bill440rt]

heh...shaker hood kits for new gen challenger have been in the aftermarket for years. Likely, for a lot less than what it will cost to add this as a factory option.

A Cervini hood is about $1,800.00, plus shipping & paint so why does the factory charge $2,500.00?  


I've lost faith in the new Chrysler, or whatever they're calling themselves this week.

Shipping + paint would likely be way over the $700 difference. The $2500 price tag doesn't seem so bad then.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

heh...shaker hood kits for new gen challenger have been in the aftermarket for years. Likely, for a lot less than what it will cost to add this as a factory option.

A Cervini hood is about $1,800.00, plus shipping & paint so why does the factory charge $2,500.00?  


I've lost faith in the new Chrysler, or whatever they're calling themselves this week.

Shipping + paint would likely be way over the $700 difference. The $2500 price tag doesn't seem so bad then.

True, however you have to campare apples to apples. With Cervini, you're paying for a brand new hood, shaker bubble and air filter assy. From the factory, there just can't be much of a cost difference (if any) between a stock hood and air filter and a a shaker hood and air filter. So, what they are hosing you on is really just the cost of the shaker bubble & related hardware. At $2,500.00, it's a royal screwing.

[6spd68]

Will it be functional this time?

[bill440rt]

There's going to be SOME kind of cost difference: tooling, development, additional parts, etc.
In '70 the Shaker option was about $100 bucks on Challengers. I wonder what that is today with inflation?   

[Mike DC]

 
If the factory options weren't screwing you they wouldn't be offered.  Detroit doesn't make money by selling stripper base models to corporate & govt fleets.



   

[Mytur Binsdirti]

There's going to be SOME kind of cost difference: tooling, development, additional parts, etc.
In '70 the Shaker option was about $100 bucks on Challengers. I wonder what that is today with inflation?    

On a $4,000.00 1970 car, $100.00 = 2 1/2% for the Shaker option. On a $40,000.00 2014 car, that same 2 1/2% = $1,000.00, which to me, sounds more reasonable for a factory option for the Shaker.

[ACUDANUT]

heh...shaker hood kits for new gen challenger have been in the aftermarket for years. Likely, for a lot less than what it will cost to add this as a factory option.

A Cervini hood is about $1,800.00, plus shipping & paint so why does the factory charge $2,500.00?  


I've lost faith in the new Chrysler, or whatever they're calling themselves this week.

FIAT. 

[JB400]

Will it be functional this time?

It's supposed to be.  Whether they just run duct work over to the factory filter like the aftermarket kits or have the filter in the shaker has yet to be determined.

[Homerr]

If the 1970-71 Shaker was so affordable why didn't all cars get ordered with them?

[odcics2]

heh...shaker hood kits for new gen challenger have been in the aftermarket for years. Likely, for a lot less than what it will cost to add this as a factory option.

A Cervini hood is about $1,800.00, plus shipping & paint so why does the factory charge $2,500.00?  

Because it meets all the frontal impact, pedestrian safety, rust out and warranty standards, to name a few things... 

[JB400]

Looks like you can get one on your R/T Classic as well

http://www.allpar.com/mopar/performance/shaker-hood.html

[ACUDANUT]

heh...shaker hood kits for new gen challenger have been in the aftermarket for years. Likely, for a lot less than what it will cost to add this as a factory option.

A Cervini hood is about $1,800.00, plus shipping & paint so why does the factory charge $2,500.00?  

Because it meets all the frontal impact, pedestrian safety, rust out and warranty standards, to name a few things... 

Your worried about all of this in a hood.  Geeez

[Ponch ®]

What's worth more today? 

Original 1970 340 Challenger with a factory SHAKER, or a 1970 318 Challenger with 340 heads and a home made shaker???   

depends on whos buying. Ive said this before...I just dont think these cars will have the same level of collectability of the classic era muscle cars. just look at the first edition numbered 2008 challengers....

[Mytur Binsdirti]

.I just dont think these cars will have the same level of collectability of the classic era muscle cars. just look at the first edition numbered 2008 challengers....

I completely agree. They've tried to hype the car with limited productions of different colors; now, in its 6th year of production & with the exception of colrs, wheels & stripes,visuaqlly,  the car hasn't changed one bit.

[bill440rt]

heh...shaker hood kits for new gen challenger have been in the aftermarket for years. Likely, for a lot less than what it will cost to add this as a factory option.

A Cervini hood is about $1,800.00, plus shipping & paint so why does the factory charge $2,500.00?  

Because it meets all the frontal impact, pedestrian safety, rust out and warranty standards, to name a few things... 

Your worried about all of this in a hood.  Geeez

Some consumers may not be, but it's what the manufacturer's are forced to comply to in this day & age of designing cars. 

.I just dont think these cars will have the same level of collectability of the classic era muscle cars. just look at the first edition numbered 2008 challengers....

I completely agree. They've tried to hype the car with limited productions of different colors; now, in its 6th year of production & with the exception of colrs, wheels & stripes,visuaqlly,  the car hasn't changed one bit.

I agree with this as well. On a somewhat related note, usually things that are marketed as instant "collectibles" are not. But only time will tell.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Just to clarify...  I really like my Challenger; it looks good is comfortable & looks good, but I  just don't see it becoming as a collector car. I take care of it by keeping it garaged and driving it in the rain doesn't bother me, but not in the snow or havily salted roads.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

I dont care what it costs.....really digging this color combo....just sayin  

[Fred]

I like it.    The hood and the colour combo. 

[Ponch ®]

I like it.    The hood and the colour combo. 

color?

[Fred]

I like it.    The hood and the colour combo. 

color?

Huh? 

[JB400]

I like it.    The hood and the colour combo.  

color?

Huh?  

Ponch only sees in two colors.  Orange isn't one of them.

[Fred]

I like it.    The hood and the colour combo.  

color?

Huh?  

Ponch only sees in two colors.  Orange isn't one of them.

What's the other? 

[Ponch ®]

I like it.    The hood and the colour combo. 

color?

Huh? 

did you mean color? WTH is a "colour"?

[JB400]

It's proper English instead of Americanized

[Ponch ®]

It's proper English instead of Americanized

'murica > anything. 

[Fred]

It's proper English instead of Americanized

Thankyou stroker.
I can tell you didn't just go to school..........you learned something.  

[Fred]

I like it.    The hood and the colour combo.  

color?

Huh?  

did you mean color? WTH is a "colour"?

It's proper English as is........

odour
vapour
amour
arbour
ardour
armour


p/s how's your cat doing?

[JB400]

It's proper English instead of Americanized

Thankyou stroker.
I can tell you didn't just go to school..........you learned something.  

Tell that to my teachers

[1974dodgecharger]

I know a guy who has a 2008 charger i think thats the year that has only 1200 miles he claims its gonna be worth millions like the old charger he saids.  He has a photo where the car sat on the lot, all papers, everything u can document.  Claims its worth 80k right now from a appraiser........

What's worth more today? 

Original 1970 340 Challenger with a factory SHAKER, or a 1970 318 Challenger with 340 heads and a home made shaker???   

depends on whos buying. Ive said this before...I just dont think these cars will have the same level of collectability of the classic era muscle cars. just look at the first edition numbered 2008 challengers....

[JB400]

I doubt if the Charger Daytona's would be even worth half of what a classic Charger is in the same condition, in about 10 years time.

[1974dodgecharger]

If they decided to put a modern 440 in a new chally i can see that being collectible.

[odcics2]

heh...shaker hood kits for new gen challenger have been in the aftermarket for years. Likely, for a lot less than what it will cost to add this as a factory option.

A Cervini hood is about $1,800.00, plus shipping & paint so why does the factory charge $2,500.00?  

Because it meets all the frontal impact, pedestrian safety, rust out and warranty standards, to name a few things... 

Your worried about all of this in a hood.  Geeez

I'm not worried at all, about anything.  Just stating a fact to a question asked about cost.   

[odcics2]

Just to clarify...  I really like my Challenger; it looks good is comfortable & looks good, but I  just don't see it becoming as a collector car. I take care of it by keeping it garaged and driving it in the rain doesn't bother me, but not in the snow or havily salted roads.

Bought my 68 Charger a few years old and drove it year round, in salt, snow, etc.  (did ok, too, like all the other rear driving cars out there!!)

It was just a car, like the thousands all around you back then...    Oh, paid $750. for it - the going price!!!      43K miles from one owner!

Bottom line - who knows what will become collectable in the distant future?    We'll all be gone. 

[1974dodgecharger]

Things that are not considered collectible will be collectible.  Alot of people buying the new challis and chargers are betting on they will be collectible hence why they won't be in the future let it be 20 years or so.....

Just to clarify...  I really like my Challenger; it looks good is comfortable & looks good, but I  just don't see it becoming as a collector car. I take care of it by keeping it garaged and driving it in the rain doesn't bother me, but not in the snow or havily salted roads.

Bought my 68 Charger a few years old and drove it year round, in salt, snow, etc.  (did ok, too, like all the other rear driving cars out there!!)

It was just a car, like the thousands all around you back then...    Oh, paid $750. for it - the going price!!!      43K miles from one owner!

Bottom line - who knows what will become collectable in the distant future?    We'll all be gone. 

[6spd68]

Because it meets all the frontal impact, pedestrian safety, rust out and warranty standards, to name a few things... 

Your worried about all of this in a hood.  Geeez

You may not be, but you can be damn sure Chrysler is.  In today's day and age you've gotta cover your ass at every turn.  Safety standards and the fear of getting sued or recalling are harder then ever before. 

[6spd68]

I doubt if the Charger Daytona's would be even worth half of what a classic Charger is in the same condition, in about 10 years time.

Agreed, just look at the G-body 442's and Hurst Olds...  You can get one mint for 5000$.  Although why would you really want too? 

[ACUDANUT]

Because it meets all the frontal impact, pedestrian safety, rust out and warranty standards, to name a few things... 

Your worried about all of this in a hood.  Geeez

You may not be, but you can be damn sure Chrysler is.  In today's day and age you've gotta cover your ass at every turn.  Safety standards and the fear of getting sued or recalling are harder then ever before. 

So if you replace the factory hood with a aftermarket one, it voids all warranties in a crash ?

[odcics2]

Very good question!

You can bet that some insurance companies would try to wiggle out of a claim!   


If you change the chip in a car and the engine blows, it's not covered...    Yeah - very good question...

[6spd68]

So if you replace the factory hood with a aftermarket one, it voids all warranties in a crash ?

Flip that around a bit... You're driving along the highway, aftermarket hood installed.  It releases, smashes your window, blocks your vision.  You end up driving into a ditch, hitting a tree, and killing the passenger next to you...

Chrysler holds no responsibility as YOU were the one who had a non-original part installed on YOUR car.

Same situation with a stock hood?  Different outcome, and grounds for a suit/recall...

[64dartgt]

Wow!  The factory is offering an option that has been readily available aftermarket for years now...and that is exciting how 

Next thing you know they will bring back RT stripes and chrome flip top gas caps. 

How about knocking 5K off the ridiculously overpriced SRT?   

[Mytur Binsdirti]

How about knocking 5K off the ridiculously overpriced SRT?   

Aint that the truth!

[6spd68]

How about knocking 5K off the ridiculously overpriced SRT?   

Aint that the truth!

  Agreed

[JB400]

How about knocking 5K off the ridiculously overpriced SRT?   

Aint that the truth!

  Agreed

Start looking at the Core models like the Yellow Jacket.

[Budnicks]

I dont care what it costs.....really digging this color combo....just sayin  

I like it, I like the Super Track Pack Option too, it's pretty pricey thou....  if your going to spend $50k-$60k  what's another $5K for style & handling... 

[Budnicks]

How about knocking 5K off the ridiculously overpriced SRT?   

Aint that the truth!

yeah that would be nice too

[Ponch ®]

Very good question!

You can bet that some insurance companies would try to wiggle out of a claim!   


If you change the chip in a car and the engine blows, it's not covered...    Yeah - very good question...

So if you replace the factory hood with a aftermarket one, it voids all warranties in a crash ?

Flip that around a bit... You're driving along the highway, aftermarket hood installed.  It releases, smashes your window, blocks your vision.  You end up driving into a ditch, hitting a tree, and killing the passenger next to you...

Chrysler holds no responsibility as YOU were the one who had a non-original part installed on YOUR car.

Same situation with a stock hood?  Different outcome, and grounds for a suit/recall...

I didn't know we had so many products liability / negligence lawyers here. But the answer is ..."it depends" (on a LOT of things).

As far as insurance trying to wiggle out of a claim if youre aftermarket hood gets smashed...they'll be more than happy to put whatever you want on the car as long as it's cheaper. Happened to me...rear ended a car, my carbon fiber SRT style hood had some damage (hardly noticeable, I ended up reselling it later). Installing a factory "flat" hood would have been more expensive than getting me another CF hood by a few hundred dollars...so you bet your ass the insurance approved it when the body shop sent the request.

Changing the chip is different and its pretty obvious why it isn't covered. Though I have a few buddies who are chrysler techs and they said up until a year or two ago, they weren't being trained on how to spot that. They'd only check for that if the same customer came back more than once with the same failure. 

[ACUDANUT]

Don't tailgate Ponch, and this will not happen.

[6spd68]

I didn't know we had so many products liability / negligence lawyers here. But the answer is ..."it depends" (on a LOT of things).

I wouldn't go that far...  I'm merely working off general knowledge of the law, and common sense. 

[bill440rt]

As far as insurance trying to wiggle out of a claim if youre aftermarket hood gets smashed...they'll be more than happy to put whatever you want on the car as long as it's cheaper. Happened to me...rear ended a car, my carbon fiber SRT style hood had some damage (hardly noticeable, I ended up reselling it later). Installing a factory "flat" hood would have been more expensive than getting me another CF hood by a few hundred dollars...so you bet your ass the insurance approved it when the body shop sent the request.

The insurance company "should" be covering whatever is installed on the car, or it's monetary value, as long as it is legal and/or DOT certified.
If your flat hood got smashed, that's what they would owe.

[Fred]

As far as insurance trying to wiggle out of a claim if youre aftermarket hood gets smashed...they'll be more than happy to put whatever you want on the car as long as it's cheaper. Happened to me...rear ended a car, my carbon fiber SRT style hood had some damage (hardly noticeable, I ended up reselling it later). Installing a factory "flat" hood would have been more expensive than getting me another CF hood by a few hundred dollars...so you bet your ass the insurance approved it when the body shop sent the request.

The insurance company "should" be covering whatever is installed on the car, or it's monetary value, as long as it is legal and/or DOT certified.
If your flat hood got smashed, that's what they would owe.

Over here, as long as you specify all modifications, you're covered. It's the stuff you haven't told them about that they can use to get out of paying a claim.

[Ponch ®]

As far as insurance trying to wiggle out of a claim if youre aftermarket hood gets smashed...they'll be more than happy to put whatever you want on the car as long as it's cheaper. Happened to me...rear ended a car, my carbon fiber SRT style hood had some damage (hardly noticeable, I ended up reselling it later). Installing a factory "flat" hood would have been more expensive than getting me another CF hood by a few hundred dollars...so you bet your ass the insurance approved it when the body shop sent the request.

The insurance company "should" be covering whatever is installed on the car, or it's monetary value, as long as it is legal and/or DOT certified.
If your flat hood got smashed, that's what they would owe.

yeah, theyre supposed to replace whatever was on the car. In my case, since I bought the CF hood off a friend, I didn't have any receipts for it or anything, so had it been pricier than a stock hood, the insurance wouldn't have approved getting me another CF hood. Yay for overpriced factory parts...

[bill440rt]

As far as insurance trying to wiggle out of a claim if youre aftermarket hood gets smashed...they'll be more than happy to put whatever you want on the car as long as it's cheaper. Happened to me...rear ended a car, my carbon fiber SRT style hood had some damage (hardly noticeable, I ended up reselling it later). Installing a factory "flat" hood would have been more expensive than getting me another CF hood by a few hundred dollars...so you bet your ass the insurance approved it when the body shop sent the request.

The insurance company "should" be covering whatever is installed on the car, or it's monetary value, as long as it is legal and/or DOT certified.
If your flat hood got smashed, that's what they would owe.

yeah, theyre supposed to replace whatever was on the car. In my case, since I bought the CF hood off a friend, I didn't have any receipts for it or anything, so had it been pricier than a stock hood, the insurance wouldn't have approved getting me another CF hood. Yay for overpriced factory parts...

That is strange to hear. Did the insurance co flat out tell you that?
Sounds like they reimbursed you for what was on your car: a carbon fiber hood. Cost should have been irrelevant.

Example: Someone buys a used car, with aftermarket wheels on it. New owner has no receipts for the wheels. New owner goes up a curb damaging a wheel. Through research it is found one of the wheels is $500, whereas a stock wheel is $200. What would the insurance co owe? The $500 aftermarket wheel.   

[Ponch ®]

As far as insurance trying to wiggle out of a claim if youre aftermarket hood gets smashed...they'll be more than happy to put whatever you want on the car as long as it's cheaper. Happened to me...rear ended a car, my carbon fiber SRT style hood had some damage (hardly noticeable, I ended up reselling it later). Installing a factory "flat" hood would have been more expensive than getting me another CF hood by a few hundred dollars...so you bet your ass the insurance approved it when the body shop sent the request.

The insurance company "should" be covering whatever is installed on the car, or it's monetary value, as long as it is legal and/or DOT certified.
If your flat hood got smashed, that's what they would owe.

yeah, theyre supposed to replace whatever was on the car. In my case, since I bought the CF hood off a friend, I didn't have any receipts for it or anything, so had it been pricier than a stock hood, the insurance wouldn't have approved getting me another CF hood. Yay for overpriced factory parts...

That is strange to hear. Did the insurance co flat out tell you that?
Sounds like they reimbursed you for what was on your car: a carbon fiber hood. Cost should have been irrelevant.

Example: Someone buys a used car, with aftermarket wheels on it. New owner has no receipts for the wheels. New owner goes up a curb damaging a wheel. Through research it is found one of the wheels is $500, whereas a stock wheel is $200. What would the insurance co owe? The $500 aftermarket wheel.    

yep. i asked when it happened just out of curiosity, other than the hood none of my aftermarket stuff was damaged. They will replace aftermarket stuff...as long as I can provide receipts etc. I can see why. Lots of insurance fraud going on (I know people that do that kind of thing  ). On the other hand, let's say my $1500 set of aftermarket wheels and tires had been damaged. Even though I didn't have receipts for them anymore, they probably still would have replace them because, like the hood, getting me a set of factory 18" wheels that the car came with would have cost them about $2500 at dealer price (and that's what they go by). If they can save $, theyll do it. In the meantime, you can pick up a set of practically new set of factory wheels/tires on craigslist or the forums for $300-400. 

[ws23rt]

Things that are not considered collectible will be collectible.  Alot of people buying the new challis and chargers are betting on they will be collectible hence why they won't be in the future let it be 20 years or so.....

Just to clarify...  I really like my Challenger; it looks good is comfortable & looks good, but I  just don't see it becoming as a collector car. I take care of it by keeping it garaged and driving it in the rain doesn't bother me, but not in the snow or havily salted roads.

Bought my 68 Charger a few years old and drove it year round, in salt, snow, etc.  (did ok, too, like all the other rear driving cars out there!!)

It was just a car, like the thousands all around you back then...    Oh, paid $750. for it - the going price!!!      43K miles from one owner!

Bottom line - who knows what will become collectable in the distant future?    We'll all be gone.  

I bought my 09 Challenger with out any future expectation of collector value. Much like buying a 69 Charger when it came out. I liked it and wanted to own it. I still like it and don't expect to make money when I part with it.

If some one wants to predict the future value of what they are buying it is there deal (investment?)

History shows that people buying new cars for investment don't do well.

I like the look of the shaker hood and would go for it if I was looking to buy a new one.

[wingcar]

I like the new shaker hood scoop set-up that Chrysler is offering.  [Question: is it a Cervini set-up?] Too bad that today Chrysler seems to wait until the aftermarket has already proven a new product before they are willing to offer it from the factory.  A few examples include CAI, Hood pins, strut bars, Sequential taillights, paddle shifters, etc, etc.  Don't get me wrong, I am glad they are offering these from the factory; [finally] it's just that it seems to take them longer than the other manufactures to actually offer what the enthusiast wants.   I guess Chrysler is no longer a leader but a follower when it comes to new trends and offerings.  But, then I am grateful for what they do offer, even if it's a bit behind the trend...and perhaps it's to Chrysler's advantage in that a product is proven before they offer it.   Perhaps I should look at it from another angle, in that they are offering what the enthusiast wants and has been asking for...therefore answering their requests. 

I love my 2008 Challenger SRT8 and purchased it to enjoy, not with an eye on its future collectability [if it indeed has any].  What fun is a car that spends most of its life in a garage....performance car are meant to be driven and enjoyed.   Enjoy your car and stop worrying about its future worth.  If it has future collectability then it just might prove to be a good investment...but if you never enjoyed it....you didn't get "YOUR" money's worth out of your investment.    {Just my 2-cents  for what its worth}

[Ghoste]

Don't forget the retro touches on the latest Charger.
All of this is all the more interesting considering that we are constantly being told that the enthusiast is an insignificant part of the market.  Even Chrysler has sometimes stated this.  And yet when someone else shows there is a dollar there to be made, they will eventually follow.

[odcics2]

After all, they are a business, not a charity!!   

About those 'cross hair grilles'...   Dodge had them on and off since the 80's.  30 YEARS ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!  lol, time flies!   

[F8-4life]

Don't forget the retro touches on the latest Charger.
All of this is all the more interesting considering that we are constantly being told that the enthusiast is an insignificant part of the market.  Even Chrysler has sometimes stated this.  And yet when someone else shows there is a dollar there to be made, they will eventually follow.

Good point.

[Budnicks]

Don't forget the retro touches on the latest Charger.
All of this is all the more interesting considering that we are constantly being told that the enthusiast is an insignificant part of the market.  Even Chrysler has sometimes stated this.  And yet when someone else shows there is a dollar there to be made, they will eventually follow.