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AAR Cuda engine options

Started by Aussie R/T, November 04, 2013, 05:09:08 AM

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Aussie R/T

Wonder if you guys can clear something were the AAR Cuda's only available with the 340 Sixpack or was the 383 an option.

JB400

340 6 packs were the only engine available in the AAR's and the Challenger T/A's.

Cool cars by the way :coolgleamA:

Aussie R/T

 like the Vit C AAR ,I can rule out it being an AAR as the vin came up with engine option 383.Next thing was the strobe stripe an option with out the AAR part.

JB400

Not from the factory.  But, I'm sure you can get anything made aftermarket or just leave off the AAR part of the decal.

Aussie R/T

The guy has told me it is a dealer optioned 383 sixpack car.I have just mailed him to ask for any documents he may have. 

Troy

Nothing from the factory ever came with a 383 Six Pak. Certain models could have come with a 440 Six Pak (Charger and Challenger R/Ts, Super Bees, Road Runners, and Cudas). The only cars available with the 340 Six Pak were the Challenger T/A and AAR Cuda - and that was the only engine they could have come with since they were specifically produced to meet the homologation rules for TransAm racing.

A dealer *may* have put an after market Six Pak setup on a 383. I honestly don't remember when that intake was initially produced. However, if the car came from the factory with a 383 then it certainly wasn't an AAR. It may not even have been a Cuda. A base model Barracuda could have come with a 383. The rest of the VIN will tell you what it is. If it starts with "BH" it's a Barracuda and if it's "BS" it's a 'Cuda. The 340 Six Pak has a specific engine code as well.

And... it's it's a real AAR there will be a second fender tag that says "Trans Am" - but you've already ruled that out. The AAR would also have had side exit exhaust, fiberglass hood, trunk spoiler, mismatched tire sizes, a blacked out grill and tail panel, side stripes, etc.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

maxwellwedge

There was a similar strobe stripe available on the non-AAR....of course it did not have "AAR" on the end of it.

GOTWING

I saw a orange 70 AAR Cuda at Carlisle this year and someone had put a 383 in it, it was a very beat car, it looked as if the 383 was put in it in the late 70's or so. :eek2:

polywideblock

is this a black cuda with a red strobe stripe ? vin should be bs23j0b  for a AAR  .here in Australia people make up crap to sell cars   :yesnod: they play on peoples lack of knowledge and need to have  something unique  . my geuss would be either bs23 G 0    or bs23 N 0  in the vin . there are heaps of 318 cars out here being flogged as R/T's etc . a few decals and "no-one knows"  hell there was a 1972 R/T challenger  in Chrysler action  :yesnod: they don't help by pointing out the fact they NEVER existed  just tell you how nice his original 72 rt is  :eek2:   CHECK that vin   ANYONE can buy and put a stripe on it means nothing  :Twocents:


  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

ACUDANUT

Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 04, 2013, 05:18:50 AM
340 6 packs were the only engine available in the AAR's and the Challenger T/A's.

Cool cars by the way :coolgleamA:

100 percent correct. :2thumbs:

69 OUR/TEA

...........and all were power disc brakes,11'' rear drums,antenna mounted on back top of pass quarter panel,road lamps,and also the only small block e-body to have toque boxes(excluding verts).

If you'd like a good laugh,here is the way I got mine in 02,dual quad tunnel ram cut-thru the orig hood with a red amber scoop molded onto the hood.But,as luck would have it,the orig intake and carbs came with the purchase.

69CoronetRT

Quote from: polywideblock on November 04, 2013, 12:49:10 PM
.....my geuss would be either bs23 G 0.........



Did you mean BH23G0*? 318 in a 70 'Cuda?  :scratchchin:

Quotehell there was a 1972 R/T challenger  in Chrysler action  yesnod

That mistake is not that uncommon. A 72 Challenger Rallye will code JS so if you use on line decoders, a lot of people will misinterpret the JS code to mean an R/T model as that's what was used in 70 and 71.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

polywideblock

thanks for the pick up   :cheers:  it was 4am and I was about to walk out door was just a quick post  surprised it wasn't jh 23 as was thinking challengers for some  reason  :shruggy:


  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

69CoronetRT

Quote from: polywideblock on November 04, 2013, 09:40:57 PM
thanks for the pick up   :cheers:  it was 4am and I was about to walk out door was just a quick post

:cheers:
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

Alaskan_TA

Quotehell there was a 1972 R/T challenger  in Chrysler action  :yesnod: they don't help by pointing out the fact they NEVER existed 



Look close at the grille in this 1972 Challenger, Chrysler photo - http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/serviceHighlights/1972/1972%20sh%20p20.jpg  :scratchchin:

polywideblock

so why did it end up as a rallye   ?  would that be a concept photo


  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

Aussie R/T

Here's the vin the car was sold originally from these guys Normadin Chrysler Jeep in San Jose..     who supposedly did the dealer AAR for the son of richy rich.

TheAutoArchaeologist

Here is a car I owned.  It is a 383 car, but someone put the AAR stripe on it.



Ryan

GOTWING

Ryan, what's up with all the guys giving you all kinds of hell about that red 70 Superbee with the go wing and all the bee's all over it?? I mean talk about   :horse:

polywideblock

Quote from: Aussie R/T on November 05, 2013, 08:40:47 AM
Here's the vin the car was sold originally from these guys Normadin Chrysler Jeep in San Jose..     who supposedly did the dealer AAR for the son of richy rich.

       BS23N0E   =  1970 cuda 383    NOT  a AAR       is  the door  original to the car?( it would be really easy to put that door on another car) does the dash and fender tag vin's match the vin on the door ? looks to be fe5 red   nice colour for a cuda    :yesnod:                   check the engine bay side of the radiator yoke near the middle but slightly towards the drivers side  what numbers are stamped there ?   all someone has done is put AAR stripes on a cuda  :scratchchin:  ,does he have any dealer paper work to back up his  claim of a special order  ? is the car in Australia ?


  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

TheAutoArchaeologist

Quote from: GOTWING on November 05, 2013, 12:02:41 PM
Ryan, what's up with all the guys giving you all kinds of hell about that red 70 Superbee with the go wing and all the bee's all over it?? I mean talk about   :horse:

The owner of the Bee is a friend of mine.  I see them every few months.  We talk, yadda yadda.  He let this guy take pictures of the cool cars he had rotting away.  Ok, no problem.  But then he goes and posts all over the place where the cars are sitting.  I know my friend does not want that posted.  I never posted the location.  So I asked for him to take the location down, that's it.  And then everyone went nuts.

Aussie R/T

Quote from: polywideblock on November 05, 2013, 12:16:44 PM
Quote from: Aussie R/T on November 05, 2013, 08:40:47 AM
Here's the vin the car was sold originally from these guys Normadin Chrysler Jeep in San Jose..     who supposedly did the dealer AAR for the son of richy rich.

       BS23N0E   =  1970 cuda 383    NOT  a AAR       is  the door  original to the car?( it would be really easy to put that door on another car) does the dash and fender tag vin's match the vin on the door ? looks to be fe5 red   nice colour for a cuda    :yesnod:                   check the engine bay side of the radiator yoke near the middle but slightly towards the drivers side  what numbers are stamped there ?   all someone has done is put AAR stripes on a cuda  :scratchchin:  ,does he have any dealer paper work to back up his  claim of a special order  ? is the car in Australia ?

Yes car in Australia,I have before and after resto pics so the door has not been removed.He has the fender tag and I have not checked the body numbers.No original motor.No paper work yet to back up the story but he firmly beleives the story.The car is supposed to be Go Mango and looks killer with the AAR and Strobe before and after.The original strobe has been on the car for a long time.I don't think the story will effect the price,not for me any way.Its too far fetched and if it were true the AAR thing is far removed from a 383 as you can get.

BS27R1B

Quote from: Aussie R/T on November 05, 2013, 08:40:47 AM
Here's the vin the car was sold originally from these guys Normadin Chrysler Jeep in San Jose..     who supposedly did the dealer AAR for the son of richy rich.

Pretty sure this production date on the sticker was well ahead of any AARs or TAs.
' objects in the rear view mirror may appear closer than they are'

polywideblock

go mango is a nice colour to     :yesnod:   what colour interior does it have ?  theres nothing wrong with a 383 cuda even without the story


  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

Aussie R/T

I'm sold on the idea of a Mango BB Cuda but not 383 the interior is Y1 black not sure on the factory color looking though the resto it looks like hound tooth.For 65k I told him I want a 440 stroker.Still a little way off with saying sold as my home town is slumping so house prices are falling faster than nanna,s pants so I have a bout 12 months to decide, if it's still there.Things will change if my investment home sells though. The guy has a factory 340 Cuda in tan that is a numbers car for sale also.

maxwellwedge

Quote from: BS27R1B on November 05, 2013, 08:07:29 PM
Quote from: Aussie R/T on November 05, 2013, 08:40:47 AM
Here's the vin the car was sold originally from these guys Normadin Chrysler Jeep in San Jose..     who supposedly did the dealer AAR for the son of richy rich.

Pretty sure this production date on the sticker was well ahead of any AARs or TAs.

Not to mention the plant coded never made any AAR's. This is a 100% non-issue - never happened, never made.

Hard Charger

I think Jensens came with a 383 6-pack.

polywideblock

jensens only came with factory engines the 6 packs were 440's


  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

Ghoste

And did any of the Jensens get 440-6's?

polywideblock

For 1971, two 440 c.i. engines were offered. One had a 4-barrel carburetor and it produced 305 hp SAE net. The other, which had three 2-barrel carburetors and produced 330 hp SAE net, was only available in 1971. Only 232 cars were built with the 440 Six Pak, and had the distinction of being the most powerful car ever to have been made by Jensen.

  :yesnod:  the Jensen SP (six pack)  cars   I want one

   http://www.richardcalver.com/article_sp.htm


  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

Hard Charger

I know of a guy that has a couple 6-pack Jensens. he has about 50-60 cars scattered around his property out-buildings. (in my area of the country that's not too common)

real funky stuff too. his father was a Packard Dealer.

(Jensens) are not real expensive , least his weren't. He deals on ebay and he was trying to sell me a six pack set up some years ago. I thought he said it was off a 383.

ACUDANUT

What 383 ever came with a 6 pack....None, or so I believe. :scratchchin:

Ghoste

None.  In Chrysler the 440 and the 340 only.

A383Wing

there was an aftermarket aluminum 6 pack intake available for the 383, but it was never offered as an option or built by Chrysler

ACUDANUT


wingcar

This post is just another example of buyer beware and a reminder to do your homework before buying.  If you don't you and your money will soon be parted and what you purchased will not be what you thought it was.  Too many people are lazy and will just ask a question on a site (any site) and then assume that those giving their opinions are experts on the subject.  This is a good way to get screwed.  While there are many on this and other sites that really know their stiff...some are just repeating what they have heard or read in the past.  And, by the way just because it was printed in a magazine years ago doesn't mean its true...example; How many times did magazines back in the day state that the Daytona and Superbirds had fiberglass noses.    Asking the question on a site is a good start but it doesn't mean you are finished researching the issue.
   
Signed....."A French Model"   :coolgleamA:
1970 Daytona Charger SE "clone" (440/Auto)
1967 Charger (360,6-pak/Auto)
2008 Challenger SRT8 BLK (6.1/Auto) 6050 of 6400

Ghoste