XS29 69 C500

[cdr]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Charger-500-1969-dodge-charger-500-hardtop-2-door-7-2-l-/151153956882?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item23317a5812&vxp=mtr

[cdr]

[Mytur Binsdirti]

The rear rear quarter corner cap gap is gone & the body line below the rear side marker light looks too crisp. I suspect that what's hiding under the paint would be very ugly.  Looks like a decent driver though.

[hemi68charger]

 

[pettybird]

you're just giving it a thumbs up because it's your car without the wing and nose, right down to the tires 

[hemi68charger]

you're just giving it a thumbs up because it's your car without the wing and nose, right down to the tires  

Nope, I'm just saying that because I used to own a 4speed 440 69 Charger 500 with a set of Magnum 500's on her........... I know you remember it...

[Highbanked Hauler]

The rear rear quarter corner cap gap is gone & the body line below the rear side marker light looks too crisp. I suspect that what's hiding under the paint would be very ugly.  Looks like a decent driver though.

  you could be right but I am wondering if this was an "early" restoration.  The original hand formed quarters were terrible  fit and they did have that sharp body line. Corner extensions and lower valance were nonexistent so it would have been make your own. Mid 80S this is what I ran into and I was able to still get used quarters then.

       WOW Its only about 110 miles from me.

[pettybird]

you're just giving it a thumbs up because it's your car without the wing and nose, right down to the tires  

Nope, I'm just saying that because I used to own a 4speed 440 69 Charger 500 with a set of Magnum 500's on her........... I know you remember it...

As cool as Dana was (and is) this car would make people do double takes parked next to your current ride

[hemi68charger]

As cool as Dana was (and is) this car would make people do double takes parked next to your current ride

I agree with that...........

[tan top]

 

looks like it was originally Y4 

[tan top]

 

[hemi68charger]

looks like it was originally Y4 

I'd have to agree...........

[XS29LA47V21]

So does a color change from gold to red help it sell or value to you?

Looks like a nice car in photos, the quarter does look cumbersome like Mr Dirti noted.   Not to beat up colors, IMO.... gold is in the bottom of the barrel for me.... I would still rather have it gold than a color change on a rare car.

How do you think it impacts selling?  I'm guessing most would rather have it color changed to red or another color.

[panhead]

Head rest's ? 

[tan top]

Head rest's ?  

think they are owner added ,  being a SPD of  September 14th 68  ,  i'm no expert !! think they would show up on fender tag as a option ,   ,   I await to be corrected 

[UFO]

Headrests will only show up on the broadcast sheet.

[A383Wing]

Headrests will only show up on the broadcast sheet.

[RallyeMike]

So does a color change from gold to red help it sell or value to you?

Looks like a nice car in photos, the quarter does look cumbersome like Mr Dirti noted.   Not to beat up colors, IMO.... gold is in the bottom of the barrel for me.... I would still rather have it gold than a color change on a rare car.

How do you think it impacts selling?  I'm guessing most would rather have it color changed to red or another color.

If a car is a hot rod or race car, a color change is not big deal. For restored, stock, rare cars..... a color change is serious detraction in my book. Because this car is number-matching, I think the color change actually hurts the value on the open market a little.

[F6Bee]

A painted body color master cylinder backing plate always wants me to take a closer look.

[hemi68charger]

Head rest's ? 

Headrests were an option in '69, albeit it not mandated standard equipment until after Jan.1, 1969 ( hence all Daytonas should have 'em ). Both of my '69 C500's have headrests....

[69_500]

Talked to the seller for quite a while yesterday. Nice enough guy but did not know very much if anything about 500's. He was nearly going to pull the car from eBay because he thought it was a clone car. Guess first person to contact him about it said it was a clone due to the VIN on dash.

Car has been painted red ever since his step dad bought the car so no sure when the color change happened.

[Highwaystar]

I Just bought this car a few weeks ago, and thought it was cool there was a thread started on it. I am no major collector, just been enjoying the Mopars for 30 years. first time I have been able to own a rare car. The car is no trailer queen, but it is a nice driver and numbers matching. I figure some day I can turn it into a top restore, but for now I enjoy driving them, and I don't feel to nervous about driving it. Its put away for now till next Spring, we just got our first snow flurries flying today.
I think this site is pretty awesome as well. a lot of good info. I will be asking lots of questions. I already got my eye on painting the master cylinder bracket black this winter.            

[cdr]

very cool car & welcome to dc.com

charlie

[Ghoste]

Nice that you have checked in here and hope you stick around.

[hemi68charger]

I Just bought this car a few weeks ago, ...

Very nice and Congrad's... !!!  If this is your first reply since you bought the 500, you're the newest AB !!!!!!   

AB = Aero Bastard, a title that's been past down from new Aero owner to the next-most-current............  I've had the title 3 times and passed it along all 3 times.......

This is a great site for sure............ If you want some cosmetic suggestions for the engine bay to look more OEM, but retain the electronic ignition, let me know......... I owned a car just like this ( the T7 Bronze 500 in the previous reply )..... If there's a screw hold down your master cylinder cap, you may wanna get a more original looking one.... Easy edit to the engine bay................. Oppppsssssssssss, I said something.. 

Cheers,
T

[held1823]

welcome aboard star. that's a great car, and one to be proud of.

[Highwaystar]

Thanks guys for the welcome. I appreciate the advise. I do want to change as much to original as possible, and I do not like the electronic ignition. My thoughts were to find an original dual point and put the Petronix kit in it. That is one thing on my list to find, a date coded dual point dizzy.
I feel proud to be the new AB, probably be my first and only time.
Its a shame I couldn't have talked to the previous owner. He died  over a year ago. He was 79 years old. There was probably some spare parts like the distributer, etc. and being able to get a little more history on the car. I do know he had it for about 15 years, and I believe it was from the N.C area before he bought it.

[XS29LA47V21]

Thanks guys for the welcome. I appreciate the advise. I do want to change as much to original as possible, and I do not like the electronic ignition. My thoughts were to find an original dual point and put the Petronix kit in it. That is one thing on my list to find, a date coded dual point dizzy.
I feel proud to be the new AB, probably be my first and only time.
Its a shame I couldn't have talked to the previous owner. He died  over a year ago. He was 79 years old. There was probably some spare parts like the distributer, etc. and being able to get a little more history on the car. I do know he had it for about 15 years, and I believe it was from the N.C area before he bought it.

I thought about buying that car (I think) late 1990s, I have a name in my head and rather not post names in threads for his privacy.  As I recall it was in the Charlotte area owned by a well known mopar guy in that area if it is the same car, I suspect history could be found back some distance.  I might have a couple old photos which I will share if it is the same car and PM you later.  Good luck, nice car.

[hemi68charger]

... and I do not like the electronic ignition. My thoughts were to find an original dual point and put the Petronix kit in it. That is one thing on my list to find, a date coded dual point dizzy.
I feel proud to be the new AB, probably be my first and only time.
...

That's what I did..... Pertronix...... But, being that my 500 and Daytona are auto cars, I just found a reman single-point distributor and installed a Ignitor II........ I miss that 4speed C500 I had............

You may also want to think about converting the amp gauge to a voltmeter if not already thinking of it.......... You can still retain the stock gauge look if you wish............ Big safety factor..........

[A383Wing]

someone will correct me I'm sure, but I don't think they make a Petronix for the Prestolite Dual point dist, do they?

[hemi68charger]

someone will correct me I'm sure, but I don't think they make a Petronix for the Prestolite Dual point dist, do they?

You're corrected, they do but only in the Ignitor I series...... Sorry.......  

I am going to do this for my 426 Hemi transplant project for the Daytona.....

Mopar Muscle article on Ignitor I for Prestolite dual-points

[Highwaystar]

I did not know about the Amp/ Volt meter gauge switch. Any links to help me get educated on that?

12/2003 is around the time the last car owner bought it, based on the title issue date. It was already painted Red at that time he purchased it. There must of been a buyer between them. If you can send me a message with his name or any info that would be great.
Thanks..

I also have a decode sheet from Mr. Govier on the car that was done for a court judge in the state of Florida, don't have a date on that tho.

[hemi68charger]

I did not know about the Amp/ Volt meter gauge switch. Any links to help me get educated on that?

...

My thread when I almost lost my C500

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,21155.0.html

http://www.redlinegaugeworks.com/

[nascarxx29]

Your car looked familar thought it might be this one Greg Donahue in FL had done
   http://images.betterworldbooks.com/076/How-to-Restore-Your-Muscle-Car-9780760321911.jpg

[white]

welcome aboard highwaystar. that's a cool car. I just got a 500 in September, went through the entire electrical system and found some melted connectors and wires. Replaced all suspect wires with new harnesses from M&H. Had the amp meter changed to a voltmeter. This site is a great place for help and advise.

[RallyeMike]

In addition to a cool 500, I highly approve of your user name 

[1970Moparmann]

Congrats on the purchase!

[Highbanked Hauler]

someone will correct me I'm sure, but I don't think they make a Petronix for the Prestolite Dual point dist, do they?

You're corrected, they do but only in the Ignitor I series...... Sorry.......  

I am going to do this for my 426 Hemi transplant project for the Daytona.....

Mopar Muscle article on Ignitor I for Prestolite dual-points

             Troy,you aren't going to use dual points on the Hemi? I have an Acell dual point in the 500  and its the best it has run in a while.

[moparstuart]

In addition to a cool 500, I highly approve of your user name 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pirq8bhetZ8

[hemi68charger]

someone will correct me I'm sure, but I don't think they make a Petronix for the Prestolite Dual point dist, do they?

You're corrected, they do but only in the Ignitor I series...... Sorry.......  

I am going to do this for my 426 Hemi transplant project for the Daytona.....

Mopar Muscle article on Ignitor I for Prestolite dual-points

             Troy,you aren't going to use dual points on the Hemi? I have an Acell dual point in the 500  and its the best it has run in a while.

Not totally decided yet as a matter of fact. I also may use a Chrysler electronic ignition with MSD........ Not sure yet....... Want to try and combine a look of OEM with the performance of today's technology.......

[Highwaystar]

In addition to a cool 500, I highly approve of your user name 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pirq8bhetZ8

Very cool video clip. My thoughts exactly.