Kids and rear seats belts...

[1974dodgecharger]

Curious if you guys ever put your kids in the rear seat with the lap belt?  I do that've the shoulder belt configuration back there.

[charger Downunder]

I went out and put lap sash 3 point belts all round only lap center rear, my motivation for doing it was having kids.

[Bob T]

I went out and put lap sash 3 point belts all round only lap center rear, my motivation for doing it was having kids.

Yep, same. Well worth it for the peace of mind, don't really care about originality vs safety

[chargerboy69]

I kept my daughter in her car seat with the harness as long as I could.  This year she was just to tall and we moved to the booster seat with a lap belt.

I do not care about originality either, and would love to mount a harness, maybe Carbeau in the center of the rear seat somehow.  This maybe another winter project for the Charger.

http://corbeau.com/corbeau/harness_belts/

[Ghoste]

I didn't have mine in the Charger until they were older and then I was fine with just a lap belt.

[Marck]

I installed 3 point seatbelts in the back of my 68.. Once I figured out what to buy, it was pretty straight forward.. I would never let my kids just use a lap belt..

[1974dodgecharger]

What brand did you guys buy as for shoulder retractable belts? I noticed there are two types manual and auto retractable.

[lloyd3]

Colorado says 8-years old and lap belts are ok. I'm ambivalent about much more than that because these cars don't have airbags.

[bakerhillpins]

There is a thread in here somewhere that provides links to vendors and part#s  for 3 point belts that just bolt into these cars. It's on my list but I have been lax in doing so.

I don't have time to search right now but maybe this evening.  I had saved it at one point... 

[1974dodgecharger]

Cool baker, I only take one kid out for a ride since only the front has lap belt....

[Tilar]

Bah, Let them lay up in the rear window and look out the back like we did in the old days. 

[bill440rt]

I had read that using a booster seat with a lap belt is not the safest. A booster is designed to be used in conjunction with a shoulder harness. There are some YouTube videos with crash tests involving a booster with just a lap belt.
I no longer use booster seats, just a lap belt in the back.

[lasvegas69charg]

does anyone here have a good place to get a set for the rear?

[1974dodgecharger]

Bah, Let them lay up in the rear window and look out the back like we did in the old days. 

I used to stand up in my uncles smokey and bandit transam back in da day and cops saw us and wav3d lol

[Marck]

does anyone here have a good place to get a set for the rear?

I got mine of the British amazon, but try doing a search for the brand name "Securon".. They're the ones I used..

[Tilar]

Bah, Let them lay up in the rear window and look out the back like we did in the old days. 

I used to stand up in my uncles smokey and bandit transam back in da day and cops saw us and wav3d lol

Yeah, that was before the idiots gained control.

[Daytona R/T SE]

Bah, Let them lay up in the rear window and look out the back like we did in the old days.  

                  

[Daytona R/T SE]

In the old days,

Back when I was about five or six...

When the old man went to the lumber yard, I always had to go along.

When he bought some l-o-n-g lumber, he'd put the top down on the '65 Fury convertible...

Lay the boards on the dash, across tops of the seats, and out onto the deck lid.

It was my job to stand up in the backseat and hold on to the boards.

   

[Tilar]

   I can picture that happening back then too.

[bull]

I'm probably going to do something like this until my kids are grown:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,91846.0.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,68787.0.html

[Marck]

I'm probably going to do something like this until my kids are grown:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,91846.0.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,68787.0.html

First link is my thread I made after I did it.. 

[chargerboy69]

I had read that using a booster seat with a lap belt is not the safest. A booster is designed to be used in conjunction with a shoulder harness. There are some YouTube videos with crash tests involving a booster with just a lap belt.
I no longer use booster seats, just a lap belt in the back.

Great. . .  have not heard that yet.    We have to use the booster seats here in Indiana until the child is 4'9".

This winter, a 3 or 4 point harness of some type will need to be installed.

[66FBCharger]

 

[Dino]

To hell with the kids, what about MY safety??   

But in all seriousness, safety features are not so prevalent in these old beasts so I am installing 3 point retractable seat belts up front. 

[Bob T]

To hell with the kids, what about MY safety??   

But in all seriousness, safety features are not so prevalent in these old beasts so I am installing 3 point retractable seat belts up front. 

Good plan Dino.  I got a complete seat with Ssnake Oyl tags sewn on sent over in the trunk of my car when I had it shipped. I do a lot of long distance drives and want to be safe, wife wanted them in too.
Strange thing though, when I went to install them, I found the early 68 build cars did not have the captive nut inserted into the headliner structure for the front belts. We ended up enlarging the hole and welding the correct nut/bracket in place

[GOTWING]

who remembers everyone pilling in the back of a pickup in the 70's and heading to the ball field for little league? 

[Dino]

To hell with the kids, what about MY safety??   

But in all seriousness, safety features are not so prevalent in these old beasts so I am installing 3 point retractable seat belts up front. 

Good plan Dino.  I got a complete seat with Ssnake Oyl tags sewn on sent over in the trunk of my car when I had it shipped. I do a lot of long distance drives and want to be safe, wife wanted them in too.
Strange thing though, when I went to install them, I found the early 68 build cars did not have the captive nut inserted into the headliner structure for the front belts. We ended up enlarging the hole and welding the correct nut/bracket in place

Isn't that strange?  It seems that some 68's had the provision and others didn't.  Is yours an early built?

I am going a different route as I am no fan of the roof mounted belts.  I bought a spare set of upper panels so I can modify the rears a bit.  I am installing belts intended for convertibles as their top mounting bolt is right below the quarter window.  You can even get the belts with the style buckles like our cars.

Safety first indeed.  I would not want to be in a collision at anything over 10 mph in one of these.  It always scares me when people think these old cars are safer than modern Tonka toys.  It'll be one hell of a bad surprise when they find out that's not exactly true.

[GOTWING]

 

[Bob T]

To hell with the kids, what about MY safety??   

But in all seriousness, safety features are not so prevalent in these old beasts so I am installing 3 point retractable seat belts up front. 

Good plan Dino.  I got a complete seat with Ssnake Oyl tags sewn on sent over in the trunk of my car when I had it shipped. I do a lot of long distance drives and want to be safe, wife wanted them in too.
Strange thing though, when I went to install them, I found the early 68 build cars did not have the captive nut inserted into the headliner structure for the front belts. We ended up enlarging the hole and welding the correct nut/bracket in place

Isn't that strange?  It seems that some 68's had the provision and others didn't.  Is yours an early built?

I am going a different route as I am no fan of the roof mounted belts.  I bought a spare set of upper panels so I can modify the rears a bit.  I am installing belts intended for convertibles as their top mounting bolt is right below the quarter window.  You can even get the belts with the style buckles like our cars.

Safety first indeed.  I would not want to be in a collision at anything over 10 mph in one of these.  It always scares me when people think these old cars are safer than modern Tonka toys.  It'll be one hell of a bad surprise when they find out that's not exactly true.

Yeah, built on Sept 7th 67. Imagine my surprise when I felt the hole depression in the headliner and then slit the material only to find the bolt fell back out again    I ended up holesawing a bigger hole and then I profile cut a captive nut plate and tigged it in. Also  3 point belts made locally and mounted them through the parcel shelf properly - plates, bolts and rivets. Just peace of mind stuff when there's kids in the back.

[sanders7981]

This is something I will have to do as well.  Like any of you, I was that kid not strapped in riding around town jumping all around the back seat of the car. While not entirely safe then, I think it was more accepted because we didn't have all the distractions that are around now a days, cell phones, thousands of songs to sift through on the iPod, etc... But I won't let my boys ride in the car unless properly buckled in. 

Anyhow, after a quick search in google, I found this website.  I like the push button style better then the airline/pull buckle style.   

http://www.seatbeltsplus.com/product/3-7174-E-BodyBu.html

You guys think these would fit in the 69? 

[Daytona R/T SE]

I skipped all of this...



I successfully avoided procreation.

[brigond]

When the kids were younger I installed lap belts to accommodate booster seats. That was in my last car. It was a 1964 when belts were optional.  They have outgrown booster seats. In my current charger (71) they just use the lap belts. 

[Dino]

This is something I will have to do as well.  Like any of you, I was that kid not strapped in riding around town jumping all around the back seat of the car. While not entirely safe then, I think it was more accepted because we didn't have all the distractions that are around now a days, cell phones, thousands of songs to sift through on the iPod, etc... But I won't let my boys ride in the car unless properly buckled in. 

Anyhow, after a quick search in google, I found this website.  I like the push button style better then the airline/pull buckle style.   

http://www.seatbeltsplus.com/product/3-7174-E-BodyBu.html

You guys think these would fit in the 69? 

I don't, but these will.

http://www.seatbeltsplus.com/product/3-6870-B-Body2BU.html

[sanders7981]

I saw those... But don't particularly like that buckle style, plus I would be more concerned that my kids may accidentally open it. 

[Dino]

I saw those... But don't particularly like that buckle style, plus I would be more concerned that my kids may accidentally open it. 

Shoot them an email, I'm sure you can have them with other types.