Would love your opinions on this

[.]

Hello,

I'm a new member here  and I'd love to have your opinions on this car available for sale. Here's the link to the website. (in dutch - sorry)
I don't really have any idea about the legitimacy of the price requested - 9.500 euro (~12 684 US Dollars) Is this much - is this few?

An other thing that I have doubts about is the following: The owner lists it as "09/1967" But unless my eyes are lying - this does not look like a '67 charger to me.
As for the price requested - here's another car on sale, for 14500 euro (~19360 US Dollars) and that is in worse shape, which makes me doubt about the price and therefor - about the fact that this might be a fraud.

I'd be happy to hear your thoughts on this.

[Dreamcar]

Looks like a 1968 to me. However, the date he's giving you is likely the build date. I'm no expert, but the build date is probably correct for a 68.

[.]

Looks like a 1968 to me. However, the date he's giving you is likely the build date. I'm no expert, but the build date is probably correct for a 68.

I see, yes that would make sense. Didn't think about that.

[maxwellwedge]

Yes - September of 1967 would be the second month of production on a 1968 Model.

[41husk]

Nice looking car for 12k but I would see it in person or have someone take a look.

[bull]

It's hard to tell on that first one from the distance they're shooting pictures but it looks to be a very good deal... which would make me nervous. The pics are either too close or too far.

The second one looks like a more honest (or less deceptive) deal to me. The 70 500 is not considered a base model, it's basically the equivalent to a 68 or a 69 SE as far as the trim package goes, and the price seems to be in line with US prices for comparable cars.

If you can get the first one for $12k I'd grab it but it's got to be too good to be true.

[.]

*snip* If you can get the first one for $12k I'd grab it but it's got to be too good to be true.

Yeah I though that aswell - I asked for extra pictures and info from the seller. We'll see what this gives.

Nice looking car for 12k but I would see it in person or have someone take a look.

Exactly - If I'd buy this one I'll definitely would do so in person to make a last check on everything.

Thanks for all the responses so far !

[6spd68]

It's hard to tell on that first one from the distance they're shooting pictures but it looks to be a very good deal... which would make me nervous. The pics are either too close or too far.

The second one looks like a more honest (or less deceptive) deal to me. The 70 500 is not considered a base model, it's basically the equivalent to a 68 or a 69 SE as far as the trim package goes, and the price seems to be in line with US prices for comparable cars.

If you can get the first one for $12k I'd grab it but it's got to be too good to be true.

Agreed.

The first one looks way too good to be true.  For that price, I'd pay to import it BACK to Canada lol...  Willing to bet the seller hits you with the "Car is located elsewhere in the custody of a shipping company", followed by; "We should do paypal." Or "We should go through E-bay's secure transaction..." something along those lines.  I've been through this a few times on my quest for a Charger.  Easiest way to tell it's likely a scam, check the prices on the Chargers listed below it.  Notice how most are mid 20s to low 30s?

The second is right on for the money, in Canada a car like that would go for around 16-18K (Would be listed for 20-22)

[Marck]

Based on the condition of the car, the obvious error in the description and the price, I smell a scam.. 
They are unfortunately very common on both ebay and euro sites such as mobile.de..

[MoParJW]

This is indeed a scam, car has been listed a couple of times in the past years, in different locations.. also in a small village in my area, and I know there is definitely no charger there.

[6spd68]

This is indeed a scam, car has been listed a couple of times in the past years, in different locations.. also in a small village in my area, and I know there is definitely no charger there.

It's a shame when people do this.  I had the same guy respond to my e-mails 3 times last year on different under-priced chargers...  People like that will always exist though.

[Tilar]

Hello,

I'm a new member here  and I'd love to have your opinions on this car available for sale. Here's the link to the website. (in dutch - sorry)
I don't really have any idea about the legitimacy of the price requested - 9.500 euro (~12 684 US Dollars) Is this much - is this few?

An other thing that I have doubts about is the following: The owner lists it as "09/1967" But unless my eyes are lying - this does not look like a '67 charger to me.
As for the price requested - here's another car on sale, for 14500 euro (~19360 US Dollars) and that is in worse shape, which makes me doubt about the price and therefor - about the fact that this might be a fraud.

I'd be happy to hear your thoughts on this.

It's for sure a 68 and doesn't look like a bad price at all. Welcome to the forum but I have one question... How exactly do you pronounce your name? 

[Fred]

Hello,

I'm a new member here  and I'd love to have your opinions on this car available for sale. Here's the link to the website. (in dutch - sorry)
I don't really have any idea about the legitimacy of the price requested - 9.500 euro (~12 684 US Dollars) Is this much - is this few?

An other thing that I have doubts about is the following: The owner lists it as "09/1967" But unless my eyes are lying - this does not look like a '67 charger to me.
As for the price requested - here's another car on sale, for 14500 euro (~19360 US Dollars) and that is in worse shape, which makes me doubt about the price and therefor - about the fact that this might be a fraud.

I'd be happy to hear your thoughts on this.

It's for sure a 68 and doesn't look like a bad price at all. Welcome to the forum but I have one question... How exactly do you pronounce your name? 

I'm guessing it's pronounced "Dot" so he is a she!   

[.]

This is indeed a scam, car has been listed a couple of times in the past years, in different locations.. also in a small village in my area, and I know there is definitely no charger there.

I'll notify the website that this is a fraud and ask them to remove it.

Hello,

I'm a new member here  and I'd love to have your opinions on this car available for sale. Here's the link to the website. (in dutch - sorry)
I don't really have any idea about the legitimacy of the price requested - 9.500 euro (~12 684 US Dollars) Is this much - is this few?

An other thing that I have doubts about is the following: The owner lists it as "09/1967" But unless my eyes are lying - this does not look like a '67 charger to me.
As for the price requested - here's another car on sale, for 14500 euro (~19360 US Dollars) and that is in worse shape, which makes me doubt about the price and therefor - about the fact that this might be a fraud.

I'd be happy to hear your thoughts on this.

It's for sure a 68 and doesn't look like a bad price at all. Welcome to the forum but I have one question... How exactly do you pronounce your name? 

I'm guessing it's pronounced "Dot" so he is a she!   

I'm sure this can be pronounced in various ways, I'll let you experiment with it a bit.  And I'm a he.

[Fred]

This is indeed a scam, car has been listed a couple of times in the past years, in different locations.. also in a small village in my area, and I know there is definitely no charger there.

I'll notify the website that this is a fraud and ask them to remove it.

Hello,

I'm a new member here  and I'd love to have your opinions on this car available for sale. Here's the link to the website. (in dutch - sorry)
I don't really have any idea about the legitimacy of the price requested - 9.500 euro (~12 684 US Dollars) Is this much - is this few?

An other thing that I have doubts about is the following: The owner lists it as "09/1967" But unless my eyes are lying - this does not look like a '67 charger to me.
As for the price requested - here's another car on sale, for 14500 euro (~19360 US Dollars) and that is in worse shape, which makes me doubt about the price and therefor - about the fact that this might be a fraud.

I'd be happy to hear your thoughts on this.

It's for sure a 68 and doesn't look like a bad price at all. Welcome to the forum but I have one question... How exactly do you pronounce your name? 

I'm guessing it's pronounced "Dot" so he is a she!   

I'm sure this can be pronounced in various ways, I'll let you experiment with it a bit.  And I'm a he.

You're quite right and I tried most of them but Dot sounded the nicest so I went with that.      

[.]

You're quite right and I tried most of them but Dot sounded the nicest so I went with that.      

Yeah Dot does sound the best - Thats how I'd pronounce it aswell

[.]

Now I've received reply from the "seller" - apparently the car is in Lancaster Uk now - as is the seller. Apperently he just moved from Germany. (yet, the car was advertised as if it was in Holland..   )
He offers to ship the car - or I can even go and get it (though - I'm pretty sure any date I would put forward would probably not be possible for him.)

According to him his reason is that he can't drive the car in england because he's not used to driving the other side of the road etc..

Do you speak English? I am sorry, but my Dutch is not so good.
The price of the car is 9500 euro.
You can see in the attachment a document with more photos.

Situation of the car: The car is in excellent condition, no flaws or any other mechanical problems. It comes with the title, bill of sale, history book, serviced only with authorized representatives, etc.
Other details: coupe, 09/1967, 239 kw (325 hp), 6265 cm3, 383 cui V8 Big Block, gasoline, automatic transmission, 155600 km (96600 miles), power steering, leather, alloy wheels, radio, silver-blue metallic paint, chrome rims (front 235, back 295), USA import (2010), classic certificate, good condition

Reasons for selling: I used to work for a company located in Germany. When I stayed in Germany I also bought the car, in 2010. 2 months ago I moved to a new company, which is located in Lancaster, UK. I have a very good job now, and I plan on staying in Lancaster for a long time, and driving here with a left steering car can be a complete nightmare. I haven't adapted quite well, and I want to buy a car with a right steering to fit the roads and rules that apply here.

I am in Lancaster, and the car is also here. The car can be shipped or you can come to take it.

I look forward to your answer.

Michael Lak

these are the pictures he added. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61472747/Charger-Photos.pdf
He must have toured half to world to take pictures in all these places  or he just got them from the internetz (in one of the picture the car looks way more blue then it does on the others)

What now?

[6spd68]

Tell him you want to come see the car in Lancaster.  Ask for current pics of the car as it sits before you make the trek.  See what he says from there.  I've heard that story before though, so I wouldn't hold my breath.  Have seen scam adds similar to this in Canada over the last few years.  As soon as he talks about wiring the money before the sale, that's a red flag.  Mind you, cash in hand is also a decent lil stick'em up robery scheme.

If it is legit, you'd have most of the people on this forum pretty jealous of you(myself included).  After everything you'd have an amazing car for a lot less then they usually go for. 

[.]

Tell him you want to come see the car in Lancaster.  Ask for current pics of the car as it sits before you make the trek.  See what he says from there.  I've heard that story before though, so I wouldn't hold my breath.  Have seen scam adds similar to this in Canada over the last few years.  As soon as he talks about wiring the money before the sale, that's a red flag.  Mind you, cash in hand is also a decent lil stick'em up robery scheme.

If it is legit, you'd have most of the people on this forum pretty jealous of you(myself included).  After everything you'd have an amazing car for a lot less then they usually go for. 

I asked him for a picture of the car with my name on a piece of paper close to the car.

Hello Michael.

I'm thinking about seeing the car in Lancaster. Could you just take some a picture of the car with a sheet of paper in front of it with my name on it please? (put it on the windows or so.)
You don't have to take it out of the garage or anything special - just a simple picture. The reason I'm asking for this is because every now and then there's a fake charger for sale - so this is just to make sure there actually is a car there in Lancaster.
Nothing personal but I'd like to be certain - you can never be too careful.

Greetings,
****

If this would not be scam I'd be very happy indeed - But I'm not having all that much faith in it.

[Marck]

Now I've received reply from the "seller" - apparently the car is in Lancaster Uk now - as is the seller. Apperently he just moved from Germany. (yet, the car was advertised as if it was in Holland..   )
He offers to ship the car - or I can even go and get it (though - I'm pretty sure any date I would put forward would probably not be possible for him.)

According to him his reason is that he can't drive the car in england because he's not used to driving the other side of the road etc..

Do you speak English? I am sorry, but my Dutch is not so good.
The price of the car is 9500 euro.
You can see in the attachment a document with more photos.

Situation of the car: The car is in excellent condition, no flaws or any other mechanical problems. It comes with the title, bill of sale, history book, serviced only with authorized representatives, etc.
Other details: coupe, 09/1967, 239 kw (325 hp), 6265 cm3, 383 cui V8 Big Block, gasoline, automatic transmission, 155600 km (96600 miles), power steering, leather, alloy wheels, radio, silver-blue metallic paint, chrome rims (front 235, back 295), USA import (2010), classic certificate, good condition

Reasons for selling: I used to work for a company located in Germany. When I stayed in Germany I also bought the car, in 2010. 2 months ago I moved to a new company, which is located in Lancaster, UK. I have a very good job now, and I plan on staying in Lancaster for a long time, and driving here with a left steering car can be a complete nightmare. I haven't adapted quite well, and I want to buy a car with a right steering to fit the roads and rules that apply here.

I am in Lancaster, and the car is also here. The car can be shipped or you can come to take it.

I look forward to your answer.

Michael Lak

these are the pictures he added. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61472747/Charger-Photos.pdf
He must have toured half to world to take pictures in all these places  or he just got them from the internetz (in one of the picture the car looks way more blue then it does on the others)

What now?

I've tried the exactly same type before.. I told the dirtbag that my father would be comming to his city for 2 weeks on business, and could inspect the car for me.. Surprisingly he was out of town for the exact same period.. What are the odds? 

[6spd68]

I've tried the exactly same type before.. I told the dirtbag that my father would be comming to his city for 2 weeks on business, and could inspect the car for me.. Surprisingly he was out of town for the exact same period.. What are the odds? 

Always.  5$ says this guy is in Spain or a completely different country.

[six-tee-nine]

Hi, .

I'm in BE also.

Anyway it seems like a ridiculously cheap 68. A running and driving 2nd gen in fair condition looking pretty like that one should go easily for twice that money.

The car is located in the Netherlands, but is the import fee payed? otherwise you will still need to pay that before bringing to Belgium. Is the title there and clear?
For that price there just has to be something wrong with it.

Call the guy, go see it, shoot a sh*tload of pictures and put them on here. Ask for all the documents, take pictures of them also.

[Cooter]

DOT
Department
Of
Trsnsportation?

[6spd68]

If the guy was legit, the car would already be gone 

[.]

I haven't heard from the guy ever since i requested the new pictures. I guess he found a more easy victim

DOT
Department
Of
Trsnsportation?

Dodge's Obviously Top 

[CB]

hey, Dot,where do you live in Belgium? I am from  Antwerp.

[.]

Wetteren; near Gent. (where the train accident happened.)

[Victor]

Hallo....cancell that ad....it's a spam....they are scammers. I am sure because unfortunately me and a my friend paid the money but the car never arrived!!!

[.]

Hallo....cancell that ad....it's a spam....they are scammers. I am sure because unfortunately me and a my friend paid the money but the car never arrived!!!

Awtch thats very unfortunate ! I already contacted the website owner to take down the ad some days ago, but haven't received any response.

EDIT: It appears that the car advertisement is now deleted.

[6spd68]

Hallo....cancell that ad....it's a spam....they are scammers. I am sure because unfortunately me and a my friend paid the money but the car never arrived!!!

Why in the world would you wire money to someone without physically seeing the car in person?  OR at the very least, gotten proper confirmation of who the individual selling the car actually is?

[six-tee-nine]

hey, Dot,where do you live in Belgium? I am from  Antwerp.

Well Well hes still alive......

[CB]

Well Well hes still alive......

seems to be a problem to you? 

[six-tee-nine]

No, but its been a while that Ive heard from you. Me and Per giving you a hand and after a while you seem to dissapear without a thank you. I've seen your 69 for sale and now you have another car.
I may hope you gave Per the parts back he borrowed you....

[kokxville]

So? any news?

Hi six-tee-nine,how are you?
I've met Per one time,great guy,i bought some parts for my 70 i've had   When i was there he just had his 68 painted sublime,and he had a blue 68 or 69 GTX convertible.

I just saw this topic and i've seen that particular 68 charger for sale too,but almost 2 years ago.No Doubt in my mind it was a scam the first time i looked in to it.

[ACUDANUT]

If you want anyone to take you seriously, lose your avatar pic and have a real name

[kokxville]

 

[Ghoste]

It didn't work for Prince when he changed his name.

[polywideblock]

isn't part of being a charger owner being an individual    

[nvrbdn]

so your handle would be "1" ?   

[kokxville]

 

so your handle would be "1" ?