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How 69-70 Chargers were factory assembled?

Started by mopar4don, September 10, 2013, 08:12:21 AM

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awesome wright up Heavy fuel  :yesnod: :yesnod:    love reading about this kind of stuff  :yesnod:

few more pictures ,  posted these before  ,  found them years & years ago while searching on the net , never found these pictures with out the email address on them , not sure what the deal is  , the guy who owns the pictures  or a company or :scratchchin:
??
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Benji

I can't believe I read the whole thing......and I don't even own a Superbird!

Benji

70 Charger RT

70 Charger R/T - 440/6
07 BMW 328iS
04 GMC SLE 2500 Diesel

mopar4don

This is a great read and deserves a bump!

Read How 69-70 Chargers were factory assembled begining on page1 post #4
Thanks again to HeavyFuel

Mytur Binsdirti

How were our beloved Chargers? Pretty crappy, I'd say. 

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Ghoste

Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on July 23, 2015, 01:57:55 PM
How were our beloved Chargers? Pretty crappy, I'd say. 

Maybe so, but they were still pretty much on par with anything else available globally at the time.  (and well ahead of some)

myk

These things were built almost 50 years ago.  How does anyone expect them to compare to today's standards?

Lennard

Quote from: Ghoste on July 23, 2015, 08:19:03 PM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on July 23, 2015, 01:57:55 PM
How were our beloved Chargers? Pretty crappy, I'd say. 

Maybe so, but they were still pretty much on par with anything else available globally at the time.  (and well ahead of some)
Are you taking the things this joker says even a little bit serious?

myk

Ah, you're right.  Too many Sculpin IPA's and I lose my senses...

Cncguy


Baldwinvette77


BigMopar440

Sorry for bumping such an old thread.  Has anyone gotten any further finding the assembly procedure?  Seems AMD now has everything a person would need to build a body from scratch.
I may be paranoid but that doesn't mean they're not after me.

JimShine

AMD is missing just enough inner skeletal unibody components that you can't make a new Charger body straight out of their catalog. Most of the inner roof structure, as an example. And a lot of stuff they DO make isn't even within OEM tolerances. Are they even making the correct Charger outer wheel houses yet?


BigMopar440

I may be paranoid but that doesn't mean they're not after me.

JimShine

Quote from: BigMopar440 on August 26, 2023, 10:38:02 PMhttps://www.autometaldirect.com/body-components-roof-roof-bracing-c-23_141_270.html

https://www.autometaldirect.com/body-components-outer-wheelhouse-c-23_111.html

What are they missing for roof bracing?  It seems comprehensive, but I wouldn't know if something is missing.

There is a lot more to the roof and rear assembly than they offer for Charger.. Look at a skinned Charger in restoration. There is an inner skeleton that supports the rear widow, the trunk hinges and torsion bars, runs down into the inside of the quarters. Stuff that typically doesn't rot and rarely needs to be replaced. Most of it is also Charger specific. Not universal to all B bodies. They offer some of it, but it isn't complete.

Last I knew they were selling Coronet outer wheel houses for Charger (unique to itself). And it has been body shops nightmares making things work.

hemi-hampton

the wheel wells or all the ones I used have been one size fits all. which sucks & some have to be heavily modified to fit & work. I found this out 30 years ago, some people are just finding out now :brickwall:  I haven't used the AMD's so not sure about those but assume like the rest of them? Leon.

BigMopar440

OK.  From a bean counter perspective it makes sense not to invest in parts that won't sell well.  I also presume there is not a "standard" modification that can be done to the outer wheel well to ease installation?  I realize we are talking about manufacturing methods that are almost 60 years old but the wells should be pretty close from stamping to stamping.  I know the dies wore over time but would it have been that much?

I know I'm veering a little but just trying to learn about how it was when they were first made.
I may be paranoid but that doesn't mean they're not after me.

hemi-hampton

Quote from: BigMopar440 on August 27, 2023, 02:32:49 PMOK.  From a bean counter perspective it makes sense not to invest in parts that won't sell well.  I also presume there is not a "standard" modification that can be done to the outer wheel well to ease installation?  I realize we are talking about manufacturing methods that are almost 60 years old but the wells should be pretty close from stamping to stamping.  I know the dies wore over time but would it have been that much?

I know I'm veering a little but just trying to learn about how it was when they were first made.

old factory dies are not used, new dies & stampings are used. The new dies not like the old dies which is why there is a problem. plus not all rear wheel wells were made the same. Have you ever seen how far the body lines stick out in a quarter panel of a Coronet/Super Bee compared to a roadrunner or GTX from 68-70. Not even close. Leon.