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[TK73]

Boy, 12, sticks gum on $1.5M painting

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1120AP_Gummed_up_Art.html

[Telvis]

They said it was abstract art. What's the big deal? Nobody wil notice it.

[bull]

Can you hear the screaming? It's the kid's mom having a cow and I can hear it all the way from Oregon.

I heard about it on the news last night. Not that the kid doesn't deserve a smack-bottom but you'd think the museum would do a little more to protect a $1.5 million painting. Maybe put a $100 piece of plexiglass over it or something. I know I'd probably go ballistic if some kid stuck a piece of gum to my $25k Charger (once it's worth $25k anyway).

[Shakey]

My first thought also.  They have had the painting since 1965 and have done nothing to protect it in 40 years.  Fools.

Also, I wonder if the boy would have gotten suspended if he had stuck his chewing gum on another piece of art that was less valuable?

I imagine they suspended him not becasue of the value of the painting he stuck his gum on but because he "vandalized" property. 

If it was an Andy Warhol painting, would they all just have had a good laugh?

[Mopar440+6]

They said it was abstract art. What's the big deal? Nobody wil notice it.

IMO, it's 100% the museum's fault for not doing anything to protect the painting...

[BrianShaughnessy]

I'm sure I probably saw it on a field trip or whatever as a kid...  but as to blaming the museum?   Well... let's see... 40 years no problems is a pretty good track record.   How about blaming lazy parent(s) that don't smack a dumbazz kid upside the head for not following the rules?   

[dodgecharger-fan]

Like this couldn't use a blob of gum or two...



How is it worth $1.5M??? It looks like the spilled paint on my old basement floor.

Sorry, I do like art. I just don't think this is art...

[Dale The Bold]

Like this couldn't use a blob of gum or two...

If I may get philosophical in an artsy-fartsy kind of way, maybe the randomness of a child sticking gum on the art is what makes it art.  Perhaps what makes something valuable is that it can be destroyed.  There are some artists who create and then destroy a work of art, because to them it's the act of creation that is art, and the same can be said of the act of destruction.  Along that vein, part of what makes a work of art unique is simply that it cannot be created again.

So, I would argue that by removing the gum residue, the museum is ruining a piece of art.  And, in the process, eliminating evidence of an event of cultural significance.  Years from now, people will be saying "Is that the painting that had the gum on it?" but the gum will be long gone.

[Shakey]

Like this couldn't use a blob of gum or two...

If I may get philosophical in an artsy-fartsy kind of way, maybe the randomness of a child sticking gum on the art is what makes it art.  Perhaps what makes something valuable is that it can be destroyed.  There are some artists who create and then destroy a work of art, because to them it's the act of creation that is art, and the same can be said of the act of destruction.  Along that vein, part of what makes a work of art unique is simply that it cannot be created again.

So, I would argue that by removing the gum residue, the museum is ruining a piece of art.  And, in the process, eliminating evidence of an event of cultural significance.  Years from now, people will be saying "Is that the painting that had the gum on it?" but the gum will be long gone.

I thought you said you didn't smoke dope!   

[73dodge]

betcha the price goes up to 2 million now that it's a famous work of art made infamous.

[BigBlockSam]

i'm so glad i don't have kids   

[greenpigs]

I should start spilling ink on paper and selling it on Ebay to fund the Chargers re-rebuild.

[my73charger]

I should start spilling ink on paper and selling it on Ebay to fund the Chargers re-rebuild.

Man that is what I was thinking...I may have more talent than I originally thought...

I have got to wonder how much the color of that painting has changed since it was originally blobbed onto that canvas since it was never covered.  The color they see that the gum left is probably the original color after the age discoloration was peeled off....

[Orange_Crush]

I should start spilling ink on paper and selling it on Ebay to fund the Chargers re-rebuild.

Man that is what I was thinking...I may have more talent than I originally thought...

I have got to wonder how much the color of that painting has changed since it was originally blobbed onto that canvas since it was never covered.  The color they see that the gum left is probably the original color after the age discoloration was peeled off....

So if some 12-year-old keys your Charger, it's OK because the car was originally unpainted steel.  All arguments about art aside, the kid defaced something that belongs to someone else.

Jesus Christ

[Big Lebowski]

  I think they should beat the little shit.

[The Ghoul]

Detroit whaaa !!!
the DIA hates glass cases they think it ruens the expearence, or the art, cant remember which...
Serriously, kids do dumb stuff but a 12 year old trying to stick gum to a painting just shows his lack of respect.
Screw the 'its the teachers fault' 'its the DIA's fault' crap!! Thats how little shits like this keep getting away with it the two sides argu about it and forget that you need to teach the kid whats right and whats wrong. and the lession that kid has comming to him sure isnt 'its wrong to hit people'
What ever happened to you did something wrong go cut your switch?

[my73charger]

I should start spilling ink on paper and selling it on Ebay to fund the Chargers re-rebuild.

Man that is what I was thinking...I may have more talent than I originally thought...

I have got to wonder how much the color of that painting has changed since it was originally blobbed onto that canvas since it was never covered.  The color they see that the gum left is probably the original color after the age discoloration was peeled off....

So if some 12-year-old keys your Charger, it's OK because the car was originally unpainted steel.  All arguments about art aside, the kid defaced something that belongs to someone else.

Jesus Christ

Should have known.  OC TO THE RESCUE!!!  Relax kids do dumb stuff I never said it was right, just making fun of the artwork.  I am sure this kid never thought twice about what he was doing, he was probably showing off for his friends.  In any case I am sure he has learned a lesson in it and the your keying a painted car is really a stretch IMHO.  In any case Jesus has nothing to do with it.

[Orange_Crush]

Should have known.  OC TO THE RESCUE!!!  Relax kids do dumb stuff I never said it was right, just making fun of the artwork.  I am sure this kid never thought twice about what he was doing, he was probably showing off for his friends.  In any case I am sure he has learned a lesson in it and the your keying a painted car is really a stretch IMHO.  In any case Jesus has nothing to do with it.

SO...had the kid keyed your car...would your attitude be this blase?  Let's even take it down a notch...had the kid stuck his gum on your car...how would you feel about it.  WOuld you still be saying "Kids do dumb stuff..I'm sure he's learned a lesson...probably showing off for his friends"?

No, you'd be on dodgecharger.com getting suggestions on the most painful way to dismember him.

Is the painting worth 1.5 million?  Probably not (Helen Frankenthaler is still alive.)  But Its probably worth 150,000.00 as that's what Frankenthaler's acrylic on canvas works go for on the art market.  I any case, what the kid did is no different than...say...keying the fender of the superbird at the WPC museum...in fact...the superbird would be easier to fix.

[bull]

When I saw the painting on TV it looked like a satellite photo of Earth. Anyway, I think the museum should cut the kid's hands off.

[my73charger]

Should have known.  OC TO THE RESCUE!!!  Relax kids do dumb stuff I never said it was right, just making fun of the artwork.  I am sure this kid never thought twice about what he was doing, he was probably showing off for his friends.  In any case I am sure he has learned a lesson in it and the your keying a painted car is really a stretch IMHO.  In any case Jesus has nothing to do with it.

SO...had the kid keyed your car...would your attitude be this blase?  Let's even take it down a notch...had the kid stuck his gum on your car...how would you feel about it.  WOuld you still be saying "Kids do dumb stuff..I'm sure he's learned a lesson...probably showing off for his friends"?

No, you'd be on dodgecharger.com getting suggestions on the most painful way to dismember him.

Is the painting worth 1.5 million?  Probably not (Helen Frankenthaler is still alive.)  But Its probably worth 150,000.00 as that's what Frankenthaler's acrylic on canvas works go for on the art market.  I any case, what the kid did is no different than...say...keying the fender of the superbird at the WPC museum...in fact...the superbird would be easier to fix.

Your wrong.  I wouldn't be on this board looking for suggestions to hurt the kid.  I have 4 kids and I would never seek to hurt a kid, especially a 12 year old.  Actually my car was keyed at a HS football game that I attended to watch my daughter cheer.  I never sought to find the culprit cause I know how disrespectful kids can be.  The damage was done and there was nothing I could do.  I took my car home and repaired the area as best as I could.  End of story.  I am by no means suggesting the kid should be let off the hook at all.  I am sure he has been dealt with.  You obviously have never made a mistake.  What would you suggest they do with this Menace to the Art world?  You seem to have all the answers on nearly every subject from what I can tell.

[BigBlockSam]

boil the little bastard in oil

[Orange_Crush]

Should have known.  OC TO THE RESCUE!!!  Relax kids do dumb stuff I never said it was right, just making fun of the artwork.  I am sure this kid never thought twice about what he was doing, he was probably showing off for his friends.  In any case I am sure he has learned a lesson in it and the your keying a painted car is really a stretch IMHO.  In any case Jesus has nothing to do with it.

SO...had the kid keyed your car...would your attitude be this blase?  Let's even take it down a notch...had the kid stuck his gum on your car...how would you feel about it.  WOuld you still be saying "Kids do dumb stuff..I'm sure he's learned a lesson...probably showing off for his friends"?

No, you'd be on dodgecharger.com getting suggestions on the most painful way to dismember him.

Is the painting worth 1.5 million?  Probably not (Helen Frankenthaler is still alive.)  But Its probably worth 150,000.00 as that's what Frankenthaler's acrylic on canvas works go for on the art market.  I any case, what the kid did is no different than...say...keying the fender of the superbird at the WPC museum...in fact...the superbird would be easier to fix.

Your wrong.  I wouldn't be on this board looking for suggestions to hurt the kid.  I have 4 kids and I would never seek to hurt a kid, especially a 12 year old.  Actually my car was keyed at a HS football game that I attended to watch my daughter cheer.  I never sought to find the culprit cause I know how disrespectful kids can be.  The damage was done and there was nothing I could do.  I took my car home and repaired the area as best as I could.  End of story.  I am by no means suggesting the kid should be let off the hook at all.  I am sure he has been dealt with.  You obviously have never made a mistake.  What would you suggest they do with this Menace to the Art world?  You seem to have all the answers on nearly every subject from what I can tell.

Not all of them...just most of them.

At twelve, I knew better...had the kid been eight, I'd be much more forgiving.  Sure, at 12 you have a messed up sense of the magnitude of your actions and you'll do some dumb crap just to show off.  But the kid (his parents, actually) need to be responsible for the cost of the restoration.

My problem is not with that.

My problem is with the fact that many in the thread seem to be very forgiving when a kid does this to a piece of art because...its just art.  Had the kid done this to their car or house...they'd be calling for his head.  If you would not do that, then I apologize for misjudging you.

[Johnny SixPack]

Maybe they should just use the kid as part of a modern art exhibit. 

Have him stand/sit in place of the painting and allow the public to stick gum on him instead.

Of course he'd be clothed, and in the interest of not being completely sadistic he could wear one of those plastic food-service hair covers, but it might still teach him a lesson. 

[BigBlockSam]

then we could throw darts at him. that would be cool 

[Orange_Crush]

then we could throw darts at him. that would be cool 

I'm a pretty strong guy and I can only PUSH a Dart...you must be a monster.

[hemihead]

I was taught by my parents that you don't touch anything that isn't yours.When I did, I got smacked on the rear.This kids parents apparently never taught their kid to respect other people's property.Why should it always be other people's responsibly to raise and correct their offspring?
If you can't handle or don't want to raise kids don't have them.Don't have kids and then hand them to someone else to raise so you can run off to work or go out all the time.It's not the kids of today, It's the parents!

[BigBlockSam]

I'm a pretty strong guy and I can only PUSH a Dart

    your such a mopar head,

[MyMopar]

I was taught by my parents that you don't touch anything that isn't yours.When I did, I got smacked on the rear.This kids parents apparently never taught their kid to respect other people's property.Why should it always be other people's responsibly to raise and correct their offspring?
If you can't handle or don't want to raise kids don't have them.Don't have kids and then hand them to someone else to raise so you can run off to work or go out all the time.It's not the kids of today, It's the parents!

It's true, the world has become more lienent with kids these days.  The stuff my nieces do never cease to amaze me.  Sometimes I wonder would my childhood have been better if I was able to goof off more like kids of today?  Then I go to MY house and look at MY Charger and am grateful for the lessons learned growing up.  Parents are a big part of it.  Of course my parents were divorced when I was 10 so I learned by not doing what others did.

[Arthu®]

Should have known.  OC TO THE RESCUE!!!  Relax kids do dumb stuff I never said it was right, just making fun of the artwork.  I am sure this kid never thought twice about what he was doing, he was probably showing off for his friends.  In any case I am sure he has learned a lesson in it and the your keying a painted car is really a stretch IMHO.  In any case Jesus has nothing to do with it.

SO...had the kid keyed your car...would your attitude be this blase?  Let's even take it down a notch...had the kid stuck his gum on your car...how would you feel about it.  WOuld you still be saying "Kids do dumb stuff..I'm sure he's learned a lesson...probably showing off for his friends"?

No, you'd be on dodgecharger.com getting suggestions on the most painful way to dismember him.

Is the painting worth 1.5 million?  Probably not (Helen Frankenthaler is still alive.)  But Its probably worth 150,000.00 as that's what Frankenthaler's acrylic on canvas works go for on the art market.  I any case, what the kid did is no different than...say...keying the fender of the superbird at the WPC museum...in fact...the superbird would be easier to fix.

Your wrong.  I wouldn't be on this board looking for suggestions to hurt the kid.  I have 4 kids and I would never seek to hurt a kid, especially a 12 year old.  Actually my car was keyed at a HS football game that I attended to watch my daughter cheer.  I never sought to find the culprit cause I know how disrespectful kids can be.  The damage was done and there was nothing I could do.  I took my car home and repaired the area as best as I could.  End of story.  I am by no means suggesting the kid should be let off the hook at all.  I am sure he has been dealt with.  You obviously have never made a mistake.  What would you suggest they do with this Menace to the Art world?  You seem to have all the answers on nearly every subject from what I can tell.

Not all of them...just most of them.

At twelve, I knew better...had the kid been eight, I'd be much more forgiving.  Sure, at 12 you have a messed up sense of the magnitude of your actions and you'll do some dumb crap just to show off.  But the kid (his parents, actually) need to be responsible for the cost of the restoration.

My problem is not with that.

My problem is with the fact that many in the thread seem to be very forgiving when a kid does this to a piece of art because...its just art.  Had the kid done this to their car or house...they'd be calling for his head.  If you would not do that, then I apologize for misjudging you.

I concur, the kid messed with other people properties. THE END. I don't care how expensive or what the property is. He messed with it and that is wrong and should be punished.

Arthur

[Crazy Larry]

Its most of the kids mentality today of "no consequences for their actions" that makes me paranoid of leaving the Charger anywhere in a parkinglot.

I just recently hunted down a fuel tube lock for the Charger so I can rest easier this Summer and maybe leave it in a parking lot when I go to a movie or something.

But, I tell you, all it takes is one dumbass who is jealous that he got dusted in his Honda by some muscle car to see your Charger sitting in all its glory, to walk over and throw a cigarette butt/sugar/soda/use your imagination - to make your life a living hell. There is no code of respect or honor with kids today - its an anything goes mentality with the knowledge that someone will always bail them out of a fix.

So, that is why the Charger was always in my line of sight.

On a side note, I went to many museums in 6th/7th grade field trips - and I never thought of putting gum anywhere - my Dad and Mom would have killed me.

That is the key to this story, was the kid scared of his parents when he thought of paying the consequences for his actions?

[SeattleCharger]

    That is the painting?   I'm surprised anyone even noticed he stuck a piece of gum on it.   

[The Ghoul]

I wasnt taught to respect others propertie, or any of that. My mother mearly put the fear of god(and about a pound of splinters from her wooden ruler) into me when ever I did something wrong and sticking gum on any thing in a musem was definetly wrong.
Its that the parents leave the TV to rase the kids at home and the teachers to rase them at school. Mean while the meda keeps on pumping out storys leading them to beleve any sort of punishment is abuse so they are affrade to disaplin them.
I agree with maddox.xmission.com
his artical on 'if you love your kids prove it by beating them'
not to the degree he takes it to but I think some thing can be learned by it.
*Ill find the link when I get home*

[BigBlockSam]

my dad used his belt.  to keep me under control. didn't work. i did what i wanted and took the beatings. that was the old school way, thats all he knew. besides that he was a good dad and tried to raise me right.  thats no way to raise a kid. i was a good kid and didn't deserve to get beat on when i messed up. Rene

[The Ghoul]

i did what i wanted and took the beatings.  i was a good kid and didn't deserve to get beat on when i messed up. Rene

do you realy think you would have been better of with 'time outs' or 'go to your room, with your tv, and your computer'
I was a good kid out of shear paranoia. My mom had a hell of an arm!!
It only took about 5 major screw ups for me to learn the system.
please no one take this link serriously.
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=beat
I just find it funny in a sick twisted , Id never go that far, sort of way.
I think the time outs and stern talking to in the molly coddeling voice is just asking for trouble with your kids down the road.