Even Ted's Wife Can't Bring Her Gun On A Plane

[Old Moparz]

You can't make this stuff up.  

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ted-nugent-wife-arrested-dfw-airport-gun-carry-bag-article-1.1441075

If you have 500 pounds of drugs in the trunk of your car, you don't do 98 MPH with a broken tail light.  

If you're responsible for making a law against a particular crime, you don't do that crime in broad daylight.    

And if you're married to a celebrity who's an advocate for guns, you don't bring your gun on a plane.  

OOOOPS!    

Ted Nugent's Wife, Shemane, Arrested After Airport Security Finds Gun In Carry On Bag

TSA agents discovered the gun in her carry-on bags at a security checkpoint, prompting her arrest.

A love of guns runs in the family, apparently.

The wife of singer Ted Nugent was arrested at Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport on Thursday after TSA agents discovered a handgun in her carry on bag at a security checkpoint. Shemane Nugent was taken into custody, airport spokesman David Magana told the Dallas Morning News, and "the rest of it is working its way through our system of legal approval."

"She is very embarrassed. She's never been in this situation before," Finn told the Morning News. "She has expressed remorse for any inconvenience for any public safety officials."

A police report of Thursday's arrest is expected to be released Friday morning.

[2Gunz]

 

[stripedelete]

At least they found it.

I got caught with a shotgun shell in a carry-on a couple of years ago.   The kid on the monitor looked like he was 16 and first day on the job.  Good for him.  The other 40 or 50 TSA agents (in about 18 different airports) on that monitor had missed it

[NHCharger]

Honest mistake. After you conceal carry long enough you tend to forget you are carrying. I went to look at a job last year for government agency ( vista/passport center). As I was leaving my office it dawned on me that I probably won't make it past the metal detectors and armed guards.

[Old Moparz]

Honest mistake is probably true, but if it isn't allowed by law, then the term, "Ignorance is no excuse for the law" comes into play. Remember the football player that spent time in jail, Plaxico Burress? Although this idiot shot himself accidentally, it's no different in my opinion. He had a gun, brought it into New York City when there is a law banning handguns there & got arrested. If someone is driving their car & is briefly distracted & runs a red light, it was an honest mistake. It's still against the law & you get a ticket for it.

I just find it ironic (and hilarious) that for someone who is married to one of the biggest gun advocates that they end up like this. 

[Troy]

Yet no one got killed. Amazing! Had she been carrying an unregistered, illegally obtained automatic machine gun it would have made a better story.

I'm guessing that it was a legally owned and carried firearm - although the article doesn't say. There have been a bunch of celebrities caught carrying weapons into the airport in their luggage. Why any of them fly commercially is a mystery to me.

Troy

[bull]

Why any of them fly commercially is a mystery to me.

Troy

Considering all the traveling they do I would think it would be much less hassle to buy a plane. Travolta has a 707 or something like that.

[Dino]

Why any of them fly commercially is a mystery to me.

Troy

Considering all the traveling they do I would think it would be much less hassle to buy a plane. Travolta has a 707 or something like that.

Oh yeah, doesn't he have his own landing strip or something?  Not that I could blame him, I'd have the most pimped out airport you'd ever seen if I had his cash.   

[Budnicks]

Honest mistake. After you conceal carry long enough you tend to forget you are carrying. I went to look at a job last year for government agency ( vista/passport center). As I was leaving my office it dawned on me that I probably won't make it past the metal detectors and armed guards.

Yep my thoughts too, honest mistake, stupid maybe in todays anti gun culture, still kind of a bone head move thou, she seems to be sorry & embarrassed... I'll bet she won't forget the next time... Ted will give her a thorough tongue lashing 

[charge69]

I really don't know how someone could "forget" there is a handgun in your luggage and try to carry it trru airport security these days.  Apparently, "forgetting" there is a gun in your luggage is a bigger problem than I thought.

[Tilar]

I really don't know how someone could "forget" there is a handgun in your luggage and try to carry it trru airport security these days.  Apparently, "forgetting" there is a gun in your luggage is a bigger problem than I thought.

Is there ever a time during the day that you don't think about the wallet you are carrying around?

[charge69]

For many years now, I don't carry my wallet in my back pocket. The Dr. told me to stop and it would help my back. Don't know if the Dr. was right or wrong but it now feels very uncomfortable to "sit" on a wallet.  I carry my wallet, comb (not much to comb anymore), even my money on a small knife (Spyderco) used as a money clip, keys (My daily-drivers all have push button start except my 2004 Dodge Truck) and any other carried on my person items in a 1.75 liter Crown Royal bag. Kind of like a MANLY Man-purse! Ha! Sometimes my carry-pistol  is the only thing in my pocket if carrying one of my J-frame S&W's. Anything bigger usually goes OWB at 2 to 4 O'clock.  Car-carry usually goes in the console or, if my spidey senses tell me to be aware, under my left leg. I am seriously considering crossdraw for car-carry, though

If I go shopping with the wife, when we get to the store, I put my wallet and keys in my free front pocket and put them back in the bag when we get back in the car. I usually do this even when shopping alone as it has become such a habit

The Crown Royal Bag does get some interesting comments, though. One time while I was getting my money out of the bag to pay for parking at the beach, the guy taking the money was a Galveston policeman and did a double-take followed by a laugh as he said "I thought you were going to offer me a drink"!

[Old Moparz]

I really don't know how someone could "forget" there is a handgun in your luggage and try to carry it trru airport security these days.  Apparently, "forgetting" there is a gun in your luggage is a bigger problem than I thought.

Is there ever a time during the day that you don't think about the wallet you are carrying around?

I've forgotten about mine, but a wallet isn't going to get me in trouble, especially how empty mine is.   

The big deal with Nugent's wife is that this is the perfect example of an irresponsible gun owner, the one that the anti-gun crowd will point their finger at. And you know, in this case they would be correct. You don't want to give anyone a legit reason to say that you're contributing to problems. If you're outspoken & also a public figure, pay attention to make sure you don't do stupid crap.

Who here does a burnout in the police station parking lot with their Charger to show the cops how you are such a responsible hot rodder?   

[JB400]

Who here does a burnout in the police station parking lot with their Charger to show the cops how you are such a responsible hot rodder?  

[Tilar]

I really don't know how someone could "forget" there is a handgun in your luggage and try to carry it trru airport security these days.  Apparently, "forgetting" there is a gun in your luggage is a bigger problem than I thought.

Is there ever a time during the day that you don't think about the wallet you are carrying around?

I've forgotten about mine, but a wallet isn't going to get me in trouble, especially how empty mine is.   

lol I'm in the same situation, but that wasn't the point I was trying to make... He made the comment: "I really don't know how someone could "forget" there is a handgun in your luggage".... I was trying to make the point that something you carry every day whether it's a hand gun, wallet, car keys, inhaler or any of the things you carry everyday, you will not have them on your mind all the time, in essence you "forget" that you have them with you.  I don't remember that I carry a pocket knife when I walk into a place of business or anywhere else. The only time I think about it is when I need it.

[charge69]

Tilar,  I don't know how much she flies the "friendly skies" but, I think it is not a very good point that someone could forget there was a handgun in your carry-on luggage.  How many people keep a handgun in a piece of luggage in your home anyway! I have about 15 pieces of luggage, including at least 5 that can be used as a carry-on and, I can guarantee you, there is no handgun in any of them! If it isn't on my body or on the dresser in my bedroom, it is in the safe. She or he would have had to deliberately put it there and deliberately left it there and that is not good gun handling procedure! Don't most people make sure your carry-on is empty before putting it up? I know I do, especially if there was a handgun in it for a road trip of some nature.

Putting a handgun in a piece of luggage and forgetting it is there is just stupid! A lot of handguns are found this way by the TSA so, ....... I guess there are a lot of stupid people flying these days, Or, stupid gun owners as a gun in your baggage isn't going to do you much good if you need it!

[JB400]

I would have to agree with Tilar.  Can you name all the contents of your pockets that is with you at all times, without checking?  I doubt if too many can.  I doubt if the ladies can name everything in their purses either. 

[bull]

It's only a big deal because it's Nugent's wife and the haters like to drag their anti-2nd Amendment agenda out into the public arena every chance they get.

[charge69]

Whatever!!   .... I would think if I was flying anywhere these days from a major airport, I would, at, least, check my bags to make sure I wasn't carrying a handgun that I "accidently" left in my carry-on.   DUH  !!!

[bull]

Whatever!!   .... I would think if I was flying anywhere these days from a major airport, I would, at, least, check my bags to make sure I wasn't carrying a handgun that I "accidently" left in my carry-on.   DUH  !!!

Whatever my a$$. This probably happens 14 times a day (or more) all across the country. It's only being discussed here because it's Nugent's wife.

You said the same thing yourself:

Putting a handgun in a piece of luggage and forgetting it is there is just stupid! A lot of handguns are found this way by the TSA so, ....... I guess there are a lot of stupid people flying these days, Or, stupid gun owners as a gun in your baggage isn't going to do you much good if you need it!

[Tilar]

I don't remember anyone bitching and complaining when Donne Trotter did the same thing, and he's a Senator from Chicago, the "We hate legal guns" capital of the world.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/06/donne-trotter-arrested-on_n_2249663.html

[Old Moparz]

It's only a big deal because it's Nugent's wife and the haters like to drag their anti-2nd Amendment agenda out into the public arena every chance they get.

Haters did it? Second amendment mentioned?     It's just a news story, albeit more of a trash story, just like when big mouth, hypocrite Ted runs his mouth in public or Lindsey Lohan drives drunk.  

If by chance you're referring to me as the hater for posting it, that's not true at all. I'm not anti-gun, I'm anti-stupid. An irresponsible gun owner like Mrs. Ted is stupid. There is no excuse what so ever for forgetting you have a gun on you, & it's no where close to being an item in your pocket like a wallet or keys. As a matter of fact, the gun was not on her, it was in a bag which is more dangerous. If she forgot she had it in the bag then she wouldn't know it was missing from the bag if it was taken.

Some of my friends hunt & own guns & some go target shooting. I have gone with them target shooting so please don't think that I have some kind of agenda regarding guns.

[charge69]

Like I said ...... WHATEVER !!!   Play stupid games,  win stupid prizes !!

[Lord Warlock]

Really depends on whether she had a license to carry the weapon or not, not the mistake of carrying into an airport.  If you have a license to carry, you should be able to carry it on planes, in public places and anywhere else in the state you're authorized to carry it in.  People in new york cannot carry, and they know it, visitors to New York wouldn't automatically know this rule or law,  I know i wouldn't look into every state's laws that i may enter on travel to see if my right to carry in my home state applies to other states as well. 

It is only news, because it was Ted's wife who did it, and the media who has moved so far the left that i've lost respect for most of the news outlets, and left the democratic party (and the republican party) to become an independent between the Obama primary election and the national election.  I like Ted, he's always entertaining to listen to, and I do enjoy his music as well, was a fan before I knew what politics even were. 

[Chargen69]

Tilar,  I don't know how much she flies the "friendly skies" but, I think it is not a very good point that someone could forget there was a handgun in your carry-on luggage.  How many people keep a handgun in a piece of luggage in your home anyway! I have about 15 pieces of luggage, including at least 5 that can be used as a carry-on and, I can guarantee you, there is no handgun in any of them! If it isn't on my body or on the dresser in my bedroom, it is in the safe. She or he would have had to deliberately put it there and deliberately left it there and that is not good gun handling procedure! Don't most people make sure your carry-on is empty before putting it up? I know I do, especially if there was a handgun in it for a road trip of some nature.

Putting a handgun in a piece of luggage and forgetting it is there is just stupid! A lot of handguns are found this way by the TSA so, ....... I guess there are a lot of stupid people flying these days, Or, stupid gun owners as a gun in your baggage isn't going to do you much good if you need it!

i agree, when i fly i get real paraniod about what is in my pockets and bags.  I could never forget where my guns were

[Mopar440+6]

Putting a handgun in a piece of luggage and forgetting it is there is just stupid!

The article says "carry on BAG, it does not specifically say luggage. This bag could have been and likely was, her purse. The contents of my wife's purse are a complete and utter mystery. Although she doesn't carry a gun, I am sure there are more items in her purse that she has forgotten about than there are that she knows are there. I've gotten stopped at the local courthouse metal detector on my way to get documents or for jury duty more thimes than I can count because I forgot I was carrying a pocket knife. Stuff happens.   

However, for someone who is in the public eye as much as they are and probably travels more in a week than I will in a lifetime, this was something she should have checked for. Just my ...

[Tilar]

Putting a handgun in a piece of luggage and forgetting it is there is just stupid! A lot of handguns are found this way by the TSA so, ....... I guess there are a lot of stupid people flying these days, Or, stupid gun owners as a gun in your baggage isn't going to do you much good if you need it!

Or stupid people assuming what they read is accurate? I'm betting she had it in her purse and it was NOT carry on luggage, which brings you right back to having the wallet or keys in your pocket and having it on your mind 100% of the time. Not gonna happen regardless of how "stupid" someone thinks it is.

[daveco]

Mrs. Ted does have a Texas concealed carry permit.
I've taken the concealed carry class here in Texas, not a lot to it.
Personally I find it almost incomprehensible that a person could forget where his/her handgun is.
Not exactly in the same category as a hair brush.

[Troy]

While I agree it's not very bright - I don't think it's necessarily "irresponsible". If you carry a gun all the time then you're still expected to know you're carrying a gun! But, in this case, everything happened the way it was supposed to (security caught it, owner fessed up to it, owner was arrested, owner gets to deal with it legally). The guy here whose 2 year old daughter shot herself in the leg after finding a loaded 9mm in the bedside table is irresponsible.

Harrison Ford is a pilot and has a fleet of airplanes and his own airport I believe. Lots of celebrities (and other rich folk) use charter services to fly around. In the grand scheme of things, it's not that much more expensive (and it's a LOT less hassle) than flying commercially - especially if you fly first class!

Troy

[Tilar]

Personally I find it almost incomprehensible that a person could forget where his/her handgun is.
Not exactly in the same category as a hair brush.

One more time for the people in the back...

It's not a matter of "forgetting" where something is. If I ask you where your car keys are, there is a 99% chance you know exactly where they are. However 99% of the time over the course of the day, You're not thinking about your keys. You can ask me any day at any time and I can tell you exactly where my guns are, but most of the time I'm not thinking about my guns, regardless of where I am.

[Old Moparz]

Good thing the TSA folks were doing their job & not hassling Granny.   

[bull]

It's only a big deal because it's Nugent's wife and the haters like to drag their anti-2nd Amendment agenda out into the public arena every chance they get.

Haters did it? Second amendment mentioned?     It's just a news story, albeit more of a trash story, just like when big mouth, hypocrite Ted runs his mouth in public or Lindsey Lohan drives drunk.  

If by chance you're referring to me as the hater for posting it, that's not true at all. I'm not anti-gun, I'm anti-stupid. An irresponsible gun owner like Mrs. Ted is stupid. There is no excuse what so ever for forgetting you have a gun on you, & it's no where close to being an item in your pocket like a wallet or keys. As a matter of fact, the gun was not on her, it was in a bag which is more dangerous. If she forgot she had it in the bag then she wouldn't know it was missing from the bag if it was taken.

Some of my friends hunt & own guns & some go target shooting. I have gone with them target shooting so please don't think that I have some kind of agenda regarding guns.

I don't know if you're a hater or not. I was talking about the news people trying to make fodder out of this, as if it's such a rare thing. They not only love controversy they seem to especially love it when an enemy of socialism screws up, sometimes only according to their definition of screwing up.

And why is Nugent stupid? What has he said that is stupid? You may not like his impassioned and often reactionary delivery but I don't recall hearing many of his opinions I'd consider to be stupid. But then I'm of a different mindset than you I think.

I rarely carry my gun so there's very little chance I'd forget where it's at. When have it I think about it often. If I carried as much as I assume Nugent's wife carries there's a definite chance it would slip my mind. I constantly carry my Gerber 4" blade knife with me and there's a good chance if I went flying I'd forget all about it. My wife used to carry mace around all the time and she got "busted" at the airport with it more than once before a flight. She just told them to keep it the last time because she was tired of dealing with the hassle.

[Lord Warlock]

I've always thought Ted was alot more articulate than most other rockers that I've seen,  with maybe the exception of Dee Snider from Twisted Sister, he can also deliver the goods when he needs to, he surprised congress when he testified in front of them.

[Tilar]

Here, I fixed it for ya, Bob.  

[73-charger-383]

I think owning a gun (I have a safe full) comes with a certain amount of responsibility with it.  I make sure mine are locked up and accounted for at all times.  While I can't always tell what I have in my pockets, I can dang sure tell you exactly where my guns are at all times.  It's an innocent mistake sure enough, but I think they realize that it's one that shouldn't be made, especially when they are in the public eye, particularly about their stance on gun control.  - Politics aside, any responsible gun owner should agree that it was careless to forget about where the gun was.  Granted it's not a major infraction, but it's careless non the less.  I would assume by her apology she and Ted understand this, and would have to agree. 

[daveco]

Personally I find it almost incomprehensible that a person could forget where his/her handgun is.
Not exactly in the same category as a hair brush.

One more time for the people in the back...

It's not a matter of "forgetting" where something is. If I ask you where your car keys are, there is a 99% chance you know exactly where they are. However 99% of the time over the course of the day, You're not thinking about your keys. You can ask me any day at any time and I can tell you exactly where my guns are, but most of the time I'm not thinking about my guns, regardless of where I am.

One more time for those who do not seem to get it.
A firearm is not your car keys.

[Tilar]

Personally I find it almost incomprehensible that a person could forget where his/her handgun is.
Not exactly in the same category as a hair brush.

One more time for the people in the back...

It's not a matter of "forgetting" where something is. If I ask you where your car keys are, there is a 99% chance you know exactly where they are. However 99% of the time over the course of the day, You're not thinking about your keys. You can ask me any day at any time and I can tell you exactly where my guns are, but most of the time I'm not thinking about my guns, regardless of where I am.

One more time for those who do not seem to get it.
A firearm is not your car keys.

It doesn't matter if it's your car keys, firearm or whatever (insert any other inanimate object you carry every day). It's the same thing. The only reason people are making a fuss about it is who it was. If Michael Moore did it, I bet most people that are crying about it now would overlook it.

[Dino]

And on and on it goes...where it will end?  Everybody knows...

[Old Moparz]

It's not pot stirring when the intent is to simply make it a political topic. It should be locked now like usual.  

Personally I find it almost incomprehensible that a person could forget where his/her handgun is.
Not exactly in the same category as a hair brush.

One more time for the people in the back...

It's not a matter of "forgetting" where something is. If I ask you where your car keys are, there is a 99% chance you know exactly where they are. However 99% of the time over the course of the day, You're not thinking about your keys. You can ask me any day at any time and I can tell you exactly where my guns are, but most of the time I'm not thinking about my guns, regardless of where I am.

One more time for those who do not seem to get it.
A firearm is not your car keys.

It doesn't matter if it's your car keys, firearm or whatever (insert any other inanimate object you carry every day). It's the same thing. The only reason people are making a fuss about it is who it was. If Michael Moore did it, I bet most people that are crying about it now would overlook it.

Nope, dumb is dumb & it doesn't make a bit of difference to me which imbecile forgets they have a weapon at the airport.

Oh, and remind me never to ask you if you have change of a $20, you might shoot yourself in the foot with the pistol in your pocket that you forgot you had.   

[Tilar]

  It was a political topic from the very first post.

[Old Moparz]

It was a political topic from the very first post.

Nope, just a news item on the same level as the lumberjack that was captured by Bigfoot & kept as a love slave.

[Budnicks]

It was a political topic from the very first post.

yep   politically motivated at-least,