Justice for Chris Lane! I'll buy the T-Shirt......

[RECHRGD]

Sorry, I just had to say it.  You can lock it now.......

[Fred]

So very tragic.

[Mike DC]

                    
Seems like just a tragic waste.


Teenage boys do things like that.  In 21st century America we call it shocking, but it's not really that unusual in the big picture.
 

Not much else to say now.  
Time to go through the legal motions and take out the trash.  

[JB400]

They'll plead insanity and get a reduced sentence.  That's what happens when modern society doesn't see the punishment for such an offense.  Used to be that a statement would be made out by the old oak tree.  As disgusting as it was, it did make a point.


Feel sorry that this had to happen.

[moparstuart]

fry them all 

[myk]

Agreed.  If a person is capable of acting out criminally with little to no conscience, as these young monsters have demonstrated, then they have no right to live among the civilized.  Kill them now, although you and I both know that these people will spend the next 20 years in therapy, sucking off of the big fat tit of society's compassion and "understanding." 

[adauto]

Line'm up in a row... the right load will get it done in one shot...........

[ACUDANUT]

Hang them one by one and make the others watch.

[ACUDANUT]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/22/teen-charged-in-thrill-kill-australian-college-student-in-oklahoma-has-racist/?test=latestnews

[polywideblock]

something slow like stoning would make others think first    they'll get a lenient sentence to calm the minority that is still jumping up and down about  George Zimmerman getting off

[Mike DC]

                                              
                                           
Nah, these kids can plead insanity or whatever but I doubt it will save their asses.  

This case is a perfect storm of stereotypes & hypotheticals.  The authorities are gonna make an example and throw the book at these kids, at least at the two shooters for sure.  If they somehow get off easy then it will be technicalities and/or lawyers.  It won't be because the authorities went easy on them.  
   

         
Public executions weren't stopped because people got too squeamish for it, it was because crowds turned out & enjoyed it too much.  The effect on the crowd was more feeding people's bloodlust than deterring crime.
             

[Cooter]

Ain't this the one I heard heard rush limbaugh talking about on the radio where the media isn't it telling the whole story. As this was supposedly A gang initiation...

[Mike DC]

                                                         

Ain't this the one I heard heard rush limbaugh talking about on the radio where the media isn't it telling the whole story. As this was supposedly A gang initiation...

I don't agree with suppressing it, but I don't think that has any great big relevance either.  Individuals are responsible for thinking & acting on their own.


The gang idea also sounds like the kind of BS that Rush Limbaugh is liable to randomly fart out of his mouth without having any basis in fact.  Is there another source for it?

[RECHRGD]

                                                         

Ain't this the one I heard heard rush limbaugh talking about on the radio where the media isn't it telling the whole story. As this was supposedly A gang initiation...

I don't agree with suppressing it, but I don't think that has any great big relevance either.  Individuals are responsible for thinking & acting on their own.


The gang idea also sounds like the kind of BS that Rush Limbaugh is liable to randomly fart out of his mouth without having any basis in fact.  Is there another source for it?

Actually, almost everything that I've read about it references a wannabe crips gang tie.......

[Mike DC]

  
For every actual gang member there are dozens of wannabes.  Throwing up some finger signs & wearing a certain color does not make you the genuine article.  Plenty of "initiations" have been committed when half a dozen young guys are just trying to impress each other.  The media doesn't make much distinction between this stuff and real gangs.  


The media also acts like being a rural white guy with more than 2 rifles is evidence that you're an anti-govt militia member.  Same principle.
   

[Mopar440+6]

My vote is to drop them off in the middle of the Australian outback. Naked. Its sickening to me that people can have such a blatant disregard for human life.

[Mike DC]

My vote is to drop them off in the middle of the Australian outback. Naked. Its sickening to me that people can have such a blatant disregard for human life.

Not a bad idea IMHO. 

[Dino]

My vote is to drop them off in the middle of the Australian outback. Naked. Its sickening to me that people can have such a blatant disregard for human life.

Not a bad idea IMHO. 

I'll back that.

So sick of humans I could puke.

[chargerboy69]

                                                         

Ain't this the one I heard heard rush limbaugh talking about on the radio where the media isn't it telling the whole story. As this was supposedly A gang initiation...

I don't agree with suppressing it, but I don't think that has any great big relevance either.  Individuals are responsible for thinking & acting on their own.


The gang idea also sounds like the kind of BS that Rush Limbaugh is liable to randomly fart out of his mouth without having any basis in fact.  Is there another source for it?

This is what Rush was talking about today. . . It helps to actually listen to Rush before you start farting out of your mouth without having any basis in fact. 


http://www.smh.com.au/world/chris-lane-shooting-a-gang-initiation-says-father-who-called-police-20130822-2sdud.html




Sorry. . . back on topic.

My vote is to drop them off in the middle of the Australian outback. Naked. Its sickening to me that people can have such a blatant disregard for human life.

I love this idea. These guys will never be a benefit to society. . . Let Paul Hogan take them out to the middle of nowhere and leave them.  

[JB400]

My vote is to drop them off in the middle of the Australian outback. Naked. Its sickening to me that people can have such a blatant disregard for human life.

Not a bad idea IMHO. 

Well, that is what Australia was originally used for by the British.  At least that's what I was told.

[polywideblock]

so was the us and we don't want the garbage either send them aver to camel land 

[JB400]

so was the us and we don't want the garbage either send them aver to camel land 

Just to correct you a little bit, that was just Georgia.  The other colonies were developed by people escaping religious persecution or by greedy people looking to take advantage of the resources.

I wouldn't send them to the middle East.  They'd become jihadists and then cause more death and destruction of innocent people.

[polywideblock]

I was thinking more along the lines of they'd get caught stealing and have their hands chopped off    and Australians that trace their family back to first fleet convicts think their something special over here, we're proud of our convict heritage . dumped here  and left to die ,instead flourished  

[Patronus]

[/quote]

Actually, almost everything that I've read about it references a wannabe crips gang tie.......
[/quote]

Then it will just be another homecoming 'cause they will sit and we will pay.

[Fred]

My vote is to drop them off in the middle of the Australian outback. Naked. Its sickening to me that people can have such a blatant disregard for human life.

I'm sorry but we don't want those scumbags here. Some idiot might recue them and god only knows what that will lead to.

[Fred]

I was thinking more along the lines of they'd get caught stealing and have their hands chopped off    and Australians that trace their family back to first fleet convicts think their something special over here, we're proud of our convict heritage . dumped here  and left to die ,instead flourished  

In all fairness though, a lot of them were shipped off to Australia for just having stolen a loaf of bread or something to eat. Which explains why the jails were so overcrowded in the first place, hence the need to ship them off to a new land.

[polywideblock]

lots of white collar criminals to, one of our greatest architects was a forger in his previous life

[ACUDANUT]

How about Justice for this WWII Hero, killed by another Fucking N.....
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/23/world-war-ii-veteran-beaten-to-death-by-2-teenagers-in-washington-parking-lot/

[ACUDANUT]

Send them all back home.  I am sick of this shit.

[ACUDANUT]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/22/dhs-employee-spends-spare-time-promoting-race-war-against-whites/?intcmp=trending

[Mike DC]

This is what Rush was talking about today. . . It helps to actually listen to Rush before you start farting out of your mouth without having any basis in fact.

My mother grew up in the same small Missouri town as Rush.  Her whole side of the family is there.  They have all spent plenty of time in church and voted for plenty of conservative candidates.  


Guess what they have all thought about Rush for decades?

[daveco]

OK, still waiting for you to tie in the NRA and Haliburton.

[Troy]

This is what Rush was talking about today. . . It helps to actually listen to Rush before you start farting out of your mouth without having any basis in fact.

My mother grew up in the same small Missouri town as Rush.  Her whole side of the family is there.  They have all spent plenty of time in church and voted for plenty of conservative candidates. 


Guess what they have all thought about Rush for decades?

Just wondering - does it matter who the source was if the information is true? So many people are so quick to dismiss something purely because of who broke the story. I read it all, strip out the spin/agenda and usually find something in the middle that resembles the truth.

I hate to admit it but I was flipping channels to the baseball game while driving to lunch and specifically heard Rush quote an article in an Australian paper. He was pointing out the fact that the news overseas would actually ask questions and print what no news here would. You know, actual reporting. Didn't hear any of the rest of the program but did poke around on the internet when I got back to the office. Obviously, everyone has an agenda and the news in other countries tends to report anything that makes the US look bad where, here in this country, only specific groups are made to look bad and the rest is shoved under the rug.

Troy

[Mike DC]

                                    
I'm not opposed to the raw idea that Rush Limbaugh can make some valid points.  Politically incorrect people often do.

The National Enquirer prints worthwhile stuff outside the MSM's part line sometimes too.  But don't ask me to respect that rag or trust its word.  

[Troy]

Right. It's just common these days to hear someone say they won't believe something because of the source. Heaven forbid they actually took the time to search *any* other source. It's way easier to just write it off as something only a left/right wacko would say.

Troy

[Mike DC]

  
My original comment about Rush was to say I don't trust his word, and then I asked if there were any other sources for the gang connection idea.  

 

[Old Moparz]

 
My original comment about Rush was to say I don't trust his word, and then I asked if there were any other sources for the gang connection idea.  

 

My instinct is to not believe a damn thing that spews from his mouth, either.

And judging by the way his sponsors are running away in droves, a lot of others feel the same way.

[moparstuart]

 
My original comment about Rush was to say I don't trust his word, and then I asked if there were any other sources for the gang connection idea.  

 

My instinct is to not believe a damn thing that spews from his mouth, either.

And judging by the way his sponsors are running away in droves, a lot of others feel the same way.

Yup you can only spew so much hate and cry wolf so many times .  Stopped listening to him when he was our Royals baseball announcer .  

[ACUDANUT]

"Rush" is not the issue here. It's about hate crimes that are out of control.

[Old Moparz]

"Rush" is not the issue here. It's about hate crimes that are out of control.

Hate crimes? One of the three arrested was white. What that tells me the two that weren't white are simply low life scumbags that didn't give a rat's ass about color if they had an accomplice that was the same as the victim.

Rush is his own set of issues & soon he will be a relic of the past.

[Mike DC]

I've got no use for "hate crimes" either.  IMHO the entire principle is punishing people for their beliefs rather than actions.  A murder is a murder.  The severity of the crime should not be variable depending on who committed it. 

 

[Fred]

I've got no use for "hate crimes" either.  IMHO the entire principle is punishing people for their beliefs rather than actions.  A murder is a murder.  The severity of the crime should not be variable depending on who committed it. 

 

An eye for an eye.  One law for all..........that is a fair system.

[Tilar]

 
My original comment about Rush was to say I don't trust his word, and then I asked if there were any other sources for the gang connection idea.  

 

You won't hear it from any sources like msnbc or cnn for the gang connection because it doesn't fit their agenda, it distracts from it.

[Mike DC]

 
Yeah, but MSNBC/etc are not the only games in town.  The foreign press tells as much truth about the USA as the domestic ones do, not to mention the smaller outfits here.

[ACUDANUT]

MSNBC and CNN are commie "news" networks.

[BigBlackDodge]

MSNBC and CNN are commie "news" networks.

..and Fox news is 'Fair and balanced.' It's a great news outlet for people who can't think for themselves.




BBD

[Mike DC]

                                                             
Somebody did a study on networks recently and decided that MSNBC was the most biased, followed close behind by FOX, and CNN a few steps down the list was the least biased.  That conclusion seems to fit my own perceptions of them well enough.


Biased news sources have historically been the norm.  Attempts to be balanced during the 20th century were the odd time.  Now they are drifting back towards the standard situation where most sources are radically biased because it makes more money.  
 

[Tilar]

MSNBC and CNN are commie "news" networks.

Exactly.

[polywideblock]

over here in OZ the federal election is looming and fox news +Murdock's news papers are all flogging the "next "prim minister" tony Abbott  its so plainly biased its not funny 

[Fred]

lots of white collar criminals to, one of our greatest architects was a forger in his previous life

Francis Greenway, right?  He has left his mark.

[Mike DC]

MSNBC and CNN are commie "news" networks.


Exactly.

I hope you don't think FOX is any less biased.

[JB400]

Even if you started your own news network, it'd be biased.

[Mike DC]

Even if you started your own news network, it'd be biased.

 
Mild personal bias?  Yes.


Blatant political agenda?  No.  

[Cooter]

Even if you started your own news network, it'd be biased.

 
Mild personal bias?  Yes.


Blatant political agenda?  No.  

Until the ratings/money dropped and the shot callers/Sponsors/creditors/etc. demanded you "Make something happen"...then, it would be business as usual.

[hatersaurusrex]

Even if you started your own news network, it'd be biased.

 
Mild personal bias?  Yes.


Blatant political agenda?  No.  

Until the ratings/money dropped and the shot callers/Sponsors/creditors/etc. demanded you "Make something happen"...then, it would be business as usual.

Journalistic integrity and reporting the news in a straightforward passion doesn't get ratings.   Networks are not stupid.   They know that people want something to stare blankly at while cramming fistful after fistful of Cheetos in their grungy yap - that is -at least until Honey Boo Boo comes on.  The beauty is that they know those drones at least think they're savvy about world events, so they feed them 'news'   As savvy as one can be while blowhards hand-deliver their opinions to them and call for torches and pitchforks every 20 minutes because someone is By God out to destroy their way of life and they're not gonna get away with it!!!!!!!   *We'll return after these messages telling you to buy more Coke/Pickup Trucks/Reverse Mortgages/Other assorted crap you don't need*

Fox news is GENIUS for that reason.   CNN's been doing it for decades and Fox figured out how to turn the fears of right-wingers against them.