How can someone hate...

[1974dodgecharger]

this scene in the movie....the movie was well worth it to see this part alone..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhBdLMKD1Zc&list=PLKtnkwH4FHLcuhUM120W_N7LAs0CJ0cIl

[Baldwinvette77]

people hate this scene? 

[Homerr]

The hole in the hood, blown Chevy motor....

[Baldwinvette77]

The hole in the hood, blown Chevy motor....

no, the first 3 movies had brand specific engines, it wasnt until the 4th one everything got a chevy, i think i read this one had a 50's hemi, or a 440 or something 

[Daytona R/T SE]

That whole series of movies sucks.

And so, that scene sucks right along with them.


Sucks.
Sucks.
Sucks.
Sucks.
Sucks.
Sucks.
Sucks.

And...

Sucks.

[Patronus]

Ya gotta admit, the blower does suck on there. 

[myk]

They hate that scene because their own car sucks...

[Lord Warlock]

Actually, the charger with the blower through the hood had a small block chevy motor in it, and if i remember right, the blower wasn't actually functional. 

the FnF movies fall into the same category to me as watching DOH.  an exaggerated version of reality. 

[JB400]

For some reason, car guys don't like to see their favorite cars on the silver screen in newer movies.  I don't know if it's because for most times, the cars get destroyed; or if it's because the general public gets to be a nuisance when they recognize your car as the car in the film; or if it's the fact that the general public wants that type of car to make a clone of the movie car.
But, the same car guys will gladly watch movies made back in the day and praise that movie when their favorite car gets destroyed in a blaze of glory.  I wouldn't mind knowing what the difference is.  The results are the same, but just at different times.  For me personally, I don't mind seeing our cars on tv and in movies.  It brings recognition to our cars and keeps them popular while other cars have to have modern replacements (Mustang, Corvette, and Camaro) to keep their classic image alive.

[bull]

Ya gotta admit, the blower does suck on there. 

But blowers are supposed to suck. They should be called suckers instead of blowers I guess. But then we drive on parkways and park on driveways.

[JB400]

Ya gotta admit, the blower does suck on there.  

But blowers are supposed to suck. They should be called suckers instead of blowers I guess. But then we drive on parkways and park on driveways.

Gama Su   

[Lord Warlock]

these days i almost cringe when i see late 60s chargers in current movies, in almost every one, they manage to trash, wreck or demolish the old charger which is unnecessary at this day and age, get something less rare and stop ruining what few are left to us.  We almost never see them in public anymore.  Only time we get to see them is in the movies these days.  Was psyched to see the charger in "drive angry" but they managed to trash it as well.  They should trash a few motion camaros, or real yenkos or a boss 429 instead of always killing a charger instead.  I understand the charger looks fast sitting still, but its still no reason to ruin what few are left. 

[Mike DC]

   

AMD already makes 90% of the unibody today. 

Dynacorn will repro that shell sooner or later.

[tan top]

The hole in the hood, blown Chevy motor....

no, the first 3 movies had brand specific engines, it wasnt until the 4th one everything got a chevy, i think i read this one had a 50's hemi, or a 440 or something  

yeah in the first one ,  you can see  its a whale motor  ( first generation hemi ) for the engine shot

[remta1]

Ya gotta admit, the blower does suck on there. 

But blowers are supposed to suck. They should be called suckers instead of blowers I guess. But then we drive on parkways and park on driveways.

great call 

[Mytur Binsdirti]

For some reason, car guys don't like to see their favorite cars on the silver screen in newer movies. 

Perhaps it's not the cars, but the movies themselves. To me, the eloquent answer below pretty much sums it up as truer words have never been spoken......

That whole series of movies sucks.

And so, that scene sucks right along with them.


Sucks.
Sucks.
Sucks.
Sucks.
Sucks.
Sucks.
Sucks.

And...

Sucks.

[Cooter]

For some reason, car guys don't like to see their favorite cars on the silver screen in newer movies.  I don't know if it's because for most times, the cars get destroyed; or if it's because the general public gets to be a nuisance when they recognize your car as the car in the film; or if it's the fact that the general public wants that type of car to make a clone of the movie car.
But, the same car guys will gladly watch movies made back in the day and praise that movie when their favorite car gets destroyed in a blaze of glory.  I wouldn't mind knowing what the difference is.  The results are the same, but just at different times.  For me personally, I don't mind seeing our cars on tv and in movies.  It brings recognition to our cars and keeps them popular while other cars have to have modern replacements (Mustang, Corvette, and Camaro) to keep their classic image alive.

Careful, or these jealous types will tell you are "ranting" even though truer words have never been spoken.
Only one reason they have to put down Chargers in newer movies, instead of just enjoying the motion picture for what it's worth...
Jealousy....hope that answers you question as to why there's a difference.

[Mike DC]

 
Show me one muscle car movie made before 1979 that our hobby doesn't respect.  
Show me one movie made after 1985 that we do.    

Release date.  That's all we care about.  

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Bullitt . . . who watches anything other than the 10 minute chase?

Gone in 60 Seconds  . . . even our hobby delicately calls this one kind of "amateur".  But we still put it near the top of the good list.  Why is that?  Just because it's literally a demolition derby of muscle-era cars on film, making Dukes of Hazzard look tame?  Did that somehow become a good trait here?

Vanishing Point  . . . as if we would have anything good to say about this one if it came out today.   It feels like you're watching a disjointed pile of about 3 different movies edited together, and none of them were very good.

Two Lane Blacktop . . . was there a movie here?  Not much happened in the start & middle and I don't remember any ending at all.

And these are several of the most highly respected muscle car movies ever made.  

             

[1974dodgecharger]

funny you say that Mike all I do when I pop in that blu ray of bullit is go straight to the car chase scene and talk to my kids about it for 10mins....


This is a funny story I have to tell ya...I have a 10 year old daughter who took a poll in her 4th grade class it goes like this (while she tells her mother)

daughter: Im taking a poll who likes chargers or mustangs it can be the old ones or news does not matter.

(30 kids in her class and only one person likes the charger)

mother: so only one person liked the charger in your class
daughter: yeah it was a boy and he liked the new chargers
mother: wow ok...
Daughter: so I was watching that movie bullit with dad the other day and the bad guys were in dads old charger and that one good guy was in a mustang.  Does that mean that dad is a bad guy in real life....??
mother: (totale silence..........)

Show me one muscle car movie made before 1979 that our hobby doesn't respect.  
Show me one movie made after 1985 that we do.    

Release date.  That's all we care about.  

--------------------


Bullitt . . . who watches anything other than the 10 minute chase?

Gone in 60 Seconds  . . . even our hobby delicately calls this one kind of "amateur".  But we still put it near the top of the good list.  Why is that?  Just because it's literally a demolition derby of muscle-era cars on film, making Dukes of Hazzard look tame?  Did that somehow become a good trait here?

Vanishing Point  . . . as if we would have anything good to say about this one if it came out today.   It feels like you're watching a disjointed pile of about 3 different movies edited together, and none of them were very good.

Two Lane Blacktop . . . was there a movie here?  Not much happened in the start & middle and I don't remember any ending at all.

And these are several of the most highly respected muscle car movies ever made.  

             

[maxwellwedge]

What I don't love about some of these newer movies is that the cars are "frankensteins" ....chebby motors, goofy sheet metal etc. etc. The old movies were at least "real" cars. Other than that.....I don't care either way

[duanesterrr]

I enjoy the F&F movies.  They are a typical summer flick.  You have to check "reality" in at the counter when you buy your ticket stub.  I don't see why anyone would hate on them.  I would much rather watch a charger defy gravity then a rehashed superhero movie or some sappy drama.

While I don't like to see chargers destroyed I am guessing those cars are "50 footers" that are more AMD then anything.  I doubt they are taking a restored RT/SE and cutting it up for the movie.  If one charger gets blown up every 2 years for a movie seen by millions and it creates interest in the muscle car era it is worth it IMO.

[elanmars]

these days i almost cringe when i see late 60s chargers in current movies, in almost every one, they manage to trash, wreck or demolish the old charger which is unnecessary at this day and age, get something less rare and stop ruining what few are left to us.  We almost never see them in public anymore.  Only time we get to see them is in the movies these days.  Was psyched to see the charger in "drive angry" but they managed to trash it as well.  They should trash a few motion camaros, or real yenkos or a boss 429 instead of always killing a charger instead.  I understand the charger looks fast sitting still, but its still no reason to ruin what few are left. 

Are you sure you REALLY watched Drive Angry? It's the rare exception where a Charger DIDN'T get destroyed/trashed. Sure it may have gotten slightly beat up, but nothing a good body man or AMD can't fix. Nothing like the front and grille being destroyed, the car being toast, etc.

[Brock Lee]

the FnF movies fall into the same category to me as watching DOH.  an exaggerated version of reality. 

Well said!

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Careful, or these jealous types will tell you are "ranting" even though truer words have never been spoken.
Only one reason they have to put down Chargers in newer movies, instead of just enjoying the motion picture for what it's worth...
Jealousy....hope that answers you question as to why there's a difference.

Jealousy; really? Cooter logic strikes again.   

[JB400]

Why do you like to see Cooter go ?  Are you trigger happy?

[1974dodgecharger]

in 20 years the FandF series will be considered CLASSICS!!

Bullit at the time SUCKED big time no one liked it and it was not until later people loved it and the car chase scene. Same with Vanishing point it made no money at the movies and it bombed HARD, but now its a cult classic.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

in 20 years the FandF series will be considered CLASSICS!!

[John_Kunkel]

Bullit at the time SUCKED big time no one liked it and it was not until later people loved it and the car chase scene.

Nonsense, every car guy I know loved it from the gitgo.

[myk]

I actually liked Bullitt as a movie.  I mean, Frank Bullitt represented what many of us believe to be the ideal man: strong willed, skilled, cool, intelligent, tough, and smooth enough to bed a foreign beauty queen; therefore I enjoyed watching his cool-as-ice persona disrespect his over-bearing, bureaucratic bosses, trump the bad guys as well as generally saving the day.  

In tough situations where I feel like losing it, I always ask myself: "what would Bullitt do?"  

As for the 'Fast movies, they're just as good or bad as any other car-based movie, and they are what they are; you either love them or hate them.  The one and ONLY problem I have with 'Fast is when one of the slutted-out race-whores in the movie refered to Paul Walker's character as "Bullitt;" bottom line is Paul Walker will never be Steve McQueen, and no one ever needs to dare to try and make that correlation...

[Budnicks]

in 20 years the FandF series will be considered CLASSICS!!

you always make me laugh MTD....       

[bull]

Bullit at the time SUCKED big time no one liked it and it was not until later people loved it and the car chase scene.

Nonsense, every car guy I know loved it from the gitgo.

No, I think he's correct, but only because of devolution. The standards by which humanity decides what is good and right is pretty much in the basement now.

[MaximRecoil]

this scene in the movie....the movie was well worth it to see this part alone..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhBdLMKD1Zc&list=PLKtnkwH4FHLcuhUM120W_N7LAs0CJ0cIl

I didn't know there was any specific hate for that particular 20-second scene. The hate generally applies to the whole movie, and if anything is singled out with regard to the Charger, it is the cartoon-like wheelstand scene; the scene where it gets wrecked; or the blower sticking up out of the hood (non-functional no less).

I've always thought the movie sucked because it is full of bad acting and annoying "ricer kids". I was frequenting the old Car Chat:1 Yahoo Chat room in 2001 when that movie came out, and it was responsible for a whole slew of wannabe "ricer kids" coming out of the woodwork, with their new favorite word: "NOS", and claiming to be "street racers", even though most of them were obviously no older than 14.

I don't like the looks of a blower sticking up out of the hood on any car; it looks like a clunky afterthought which ruins the lines of the car. This is especially true of a 2nd generation Charger, since it came from the factory with the best lines of any muscle car ever made in my opinion. It is also a shame to cut up a 2nd generation Charger hood, since it is a particularly good looking hood, what with the simulated wastegates and all, which match the ones in the doors.

[myk]

That's what aftermarket reproduction steel hoods and, my personal favorite, fiberglass hoods are for; you can cut those things up all day long without a care for that factory-love stuff...

[Cooter]

I thought it was a good movie for what it was supposed to do. It wasn't set up for the enthusiast, it was set up to make money off everybody involved in the street racing scene. Be it little ricer dudes, or the American muscle guys.the term NOS is no diffetent than MPG now. I know guys right now that can't stand abreviations. They still prefer miles per gallon, and N.  O.  S.
How many that have run Nitrous had someone who clearly should know better, say something stupid like "I see your running that NITRO in it"?
Stupid abreviations have been around longer than f&f movies.

[Mike DC]

I thought it was a good movie for what it was supposed to do. It wasn't set up for the enthusiast, it was set up to make money off everybody involved in the street racing scene. Be it little ricer dudes, or the American muscle guys.the term NOS is no diffetent than MPG now. I know guys right now that can't stand abreviations. They still prefer miles per gallon, and N.  O.  S.
How many that have run Nitrous had someone who clearly should know better, say something stupid like "I see your running that NITRO in it"?
Stupid abreviations have been around longer than f&f movies.

Bingo.
There's a difference between an unflattering portrayal and an accurate portrayal of unflattering stuff.  


In 1979 I doubt many adult car guys thought the goofy orange Charger with the rebel flag showing up on TV lately would be declared the most influential Hot Rod of all time a generation later.  But that's what Hot Rod magazine called the General Lee couple years ago.  (And "most influential" is tough to argue with, like it or not.)


"Fast & Furious" #1 is already a modern classic in the eyes of MANY younger people, like it or not.

I'll grant that its a classic crappy B-movie.  But so is DMCL, Gone/60, Two-Lane, VP, or most of the other car movies we revere.  Car movies are normally on the poop-list of cinema, then or now.  That's one of the reasons something like Bullitt is held to such a high regard, being an exception to that.  

[Budnicks]

I thought it was a good movie for what it was supposed to do. It wasn't set up for the enthusiast, it was set up to make money off everybody involved in the street racing scene. Be it little ricer dudes, or the American muscle guys.the term NOS is no diffetent than MPG now. I know guys right now that can't stand abreviations. They still prefer miles per gallon, and N.  O.  S.
How many that have run Nitrous had someone who clearly should know better, say something stupid like "I see your running that NITRO in it"?
Stupid abreviations have been around longer than f&f movies.

Bingo.
There's a difference between an unflattering portrayal and an accurate portrayal of unflattering stuff.  


In 1979 I doubt many adult car guys thought the goofy orange Charger with the rebel flag showing up on TV lately would be declared the most influential Hot Rod of all time a generation later.  But that's what Hot Rod magazine called the General Lee couple years ago.  (And "most influential" is tough to argue with, like it or not.)


"Fast & Furious" #1 is already a modern classic in the eyes of MANY younger people, like it or not.

I'll grant that its a classic crappy B-movie.  But so is DMCL, Gone/60, Two-Lane, VP, or most of the other car movies we revere.  Car movies are normally on the poop-list of cinema, then or now.  That's one of the reasons something like Bullitt is held to such a high regard, being an exception to that.  

very well said