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Started by rustyst, February 27, 2006, 06:22:14 PM

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rustyst

February 27, 2006, 06:22:14 PM
I just noticed a 1970 Charger S/E with a 318 in it for sale near my house.  The car has been in Arizona its whole life, 2 owner car.  The interior is fairly good, the body has no rust, needs paint and vinyl top.  The car has body damage in both rear quarters and the trunk(pretty good size dents), other than that the rest of the body is very straight.  The  guy is asking $3500.00

My question is would it be possible for me to take the 451 stroker and transmission that was just finished last week out of my "73 Charger and put it in the 1970 Charger?  Then maybe take the 318 and put it in the 1973 car and sell it.  Would the value of the 1970 car be worth the hassle after it was all fixed up?   Sorry I dont have photos, but any opinions are valued.

Blown70

#1
February 27, 2006, 06:24:15 PM
YOU BEST RUN DOWN THERE WITH THE $$ NOW........ What are you waiting for... MOVE NOW go...... :devil:

If that is what you say that is a steal.... You may be put in jail for such a buy (well not really)

Tom

694spdRT

#2
February 27, 2006, 06:59:53 PM
Quote from: Blown70 on February 27, 2006, 06:24:15 PM
YOU BEST RUN DOWN THERE WITH THE $$ NOW........ What are you waiting for... MOVE NOW go...... :devil:

If that is what you say that is a steal.... You may be put in jail for such a buy (well not really)

Tom

:iagree:

It sounds like a good buy. 

1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
1978 Ramcharger 360 auto
2001 Durango SLT 4.7L (daily driver)
2005 Ram 2500 4x4 Big Horn Cummins Diesel 6 speed
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Hemi

ITSA426

#3
February 27, 2006, 07:03:06 PM
Where exactly is down the street and do they have a phone?

rustyst

#4
February 27, 2006, 07:08:32 PM
Does anyone know what size rear end that a 1970 with a 318 would have in it?

Charger_Fan

#5
February 27, 2006, 07:14:55 PM
Quote from: rustyst on February 27, 2006, 07:08:32 PM
Does anyone know what size rear end that a 1970 with a 318 would have in it?
More than likely an 8 1/4.



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#6
February 27, 2006, 07:16:21 PM
i'd do it...

rustyst

#7
February 27, 2006, 07:49:15 PM
Would the 8 1/4 rear end on the 1970 work with the 451?

hotrod98

#8
February 27, 2006, 08:00:19 PM
As long as you're driving the car normally , it will last a long time.
If you're out doing burnouts, not long.


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dd44068

#9
February 27, 2006, 08:54:27 PM
go buy the car right now dont think just do it :yesnod:

bull

#10
February 27, 2006, 11:37:23 PM
You can do whatever you want with a 318 car. ;) That's a big generalization but the fact is a numbers matching 318 is probably worth a lot less than having a non-numbers matching 440 in a 318 car. I don't know if the 451 iwould make the car worth any more than with a 318 but it won't be less. Don't tell the third gen guys I said this but I'd much rather have a '70 Charger than a '73. :icon_smile_cool:

six-tee-nine

#11
February 28, 2006, 05:33:14 AM
 buy the car now.....You can always think later.....
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NYCMille

#12
February 28, 2006, 08:59:15 AM
Give me his phone # and I will buy the car... MOVE MAN, MOVE!

Chargen69

#13
February 28, 2006, 09:06:54 AM
If you want the car, i wouldnt say anything else here, or it will be gone before you decide   ;D

6pkrunner

#14
February 28, 2006, 09:18:48 AM
Quote from: rustyst on February 27, 2006, 07:49:15 PM
Would the 8 1/4 rear end on the 1970 work with the 451?

;DROFL - sure as long as you don't lean on it. And that would beg the question - "Why put a torque happy 451 into something you can't lean on?"
Get an 8 3/4 with a set of 3.91s and have at it!

rustyst

#15
February 28, 2006, 01:13:20 PM
Your right, that would take the fun out of it.  My mechanic has three 440 sitting in his barn, what do think of one of them in this car?

I spoke with the owner today he is willing to go down in price a bit, car will need both rear quarters, bumper and rear valence.  I'm taking some photos today, if I dont buy it I'll be happy to give the number out to whoever wants it.

41husk

#16
February 28, 2006, 01:22:00 PM
If the rails are good and you don't buy it I will be happy to give you a finder fee.  Get the picture?  Go buy the car now!!!!!
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1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

PocketThunder

#17
February 28, 2006, 01:24:40 PM
Did anyone call dibbs yet..?   :shruggy:   (checking above posts.....)  Nope!  I call dibbs!!  :devil:
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#18
February 28, 2006, 02:17:18 PM
dibbs 2
1971 Dodge Charger SE 383 Magnum
1999 Dodge Durango 5.9
1995 Chrysler LHS

41husk

#19
February 28, 2006, 02:20:57 PM
I thought finders fee trumped dibbs ???
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

rustyst

#20
February 28, 2006, 06:41:28 PM
few more pics

bull

#21
February 28, 2006, 07:05:44 PM
Man, that back end is really hammered. But I still think it's probably worth it. You're looking at having to get a repop quarter panel, valance, valance corner and maybe a rear taillight panel. You could have some damage in the trunk too, like maybe the trunk extension and I would bet you will have to put it on a frame rack and stretch it back out. Does the decklid close? I doubt it. Anyway, there's a lot of work to do on that LR corner but chances are that lower quarter and trunk extension are rusted anyway. Is the other side damaged too? Did you try talking him down yet, maybe to $2,500? Ask him if he has the bumper jack too. Those things are a $300 bill now.

rustyst

#23
February 28, 2006, 07:12:50 PM
I asked what his bottom line is, all he would say is he has some wiggle room.  I also found out it has a salvaged title from the rear damage.

bull

#24
February 28, 2006, 07:16:35 PM
Quote from: rustyst on February 28, 2006, 07:12:50 PM
I asked what his bottom line is, all he would say is he has some wiggle room.  I also found out it has a salvaged title from the rear damage.

I'd see if he would 'wiggle' down to $2,500. Take the cash and let those 25 Franklins do the talking for you.

rustyst

#25
February 28, 2006, 07:19:25 PM
How much does the salvaged title effect the value along with the body damage, anybody have a guess. ???

bull

#26
February 28, 2006, 07:24:04 PM
Quote from: rustyst on February 28, 2006, 07:19:25 PM
How much does the salvaged title effect the value along with the body damage, anybody have a guess. ???

I don't think a salvage title would have much of an effect on the value of a classic. Just take a bunch of pictures so they know it wasn't rolled, sandwiched or spindled. Also, there are some numbers stamped on the top lip of that decklid frame in the back that you need to save. I believe they are above the trunk latch. If you can save that portion of the car it won't be labeled a 'rebody' which is a term many people shy away from.
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