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anyone with a 66/67 Coronet AND Charger??

Started by mauve66, August 07, 2013, 06:26:47 PM

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mauve66

been trying to decide what to do about my Daytona wing mounting.  Not really liking the current setup and was thinking of using Coronet rear quarters with flat top surface to replace the top valley surface on the Charger quarters but didn't know if the front and rear broadside measurements (front door to wheel well/wheel well to bumper) would be the same
Robert-Las Vegas, NV

NEEDS:
body work
paint - mauve and black
powder coat wheels - mauve and black
total wiring
PW
PDLKS
Tint
trim
engine - 520/540, eddy heads, 6pak
alignment

Musicman

Whats wrong with what you have now? PICS  :scratchchin:

mauve66

i used flat steel stock to "build up" the valley enough to make a flat area for the wing to sit on.  i figured i could grind down the edges to create a slope away from the base and use Marglass filler to finish it but the more i'm looking at it maybe swapping to a Coronet quarter would be better as long as the wheel well lines up (the stock one is already pretty close to the tire on one side but not the other- don't know why though??)

i would also have to partially fill the valley forward of the wing with Marglass to get the body line to come up level with the base.  I know everyone likes "pure" metal but i see no way around the Marglass and definitely can't pay someone else to do it all.

if the Coronet quarters would work (can't find anyone who sells a full quarter so far- most are 68 and up) then i could probably spring for someone to weld them on and then i could go from there

remember, these photos are temporary (don't shoot me yet), something to play around with while my mind is figuring a better way around this
Robert-Las Vegas, NV

NEEDS:
body work
paint - mauve and black
powder coat wheels - mauve and black
total wiring
PW
PDLKS
Tint
trim
engine - 520/540, eddy heads, 6pak
alignment

mauve66

some more, i don't think i have a closeup of the area, actually scared to take one and get thrown off DC.com...................
Robert-Las Vegas, NV

NEEDS:
body work
paint - mauve and black
powder coat wheels - mauve and black
total wiring
PW
PDLKS
Tint
trim
engine - 520/540, eddy heads, 6pak
alignment

JB400

Have you asked Tuffy for pix of the rear of his car? :popcrn:  He has a 67 Coronet 440

mauve66

THAT'S who has one, i couldn't remember, thanks
Robert-Las Vegas, NV

NEEDS:
body work
paint - mauve and black
powder coat wheels - mauve and black
total wiring
PW
PDLKS
Tint
trim
engine - 520/540, eddy heads, 6pak
alignment

JB400

Looks like the front of the wing is too low.  I think if you could figure out how to raise it a little bit, it'd look alright.

mauve66

from what i can find so far the wheelbase and overall length seem to be the same (or very close, depending on the info)
Robert-Las Vegas, NV

NEEDS:
body work
paint - mauve and black
powder coat wheels - mauve and black
total wiring
PW
PDLKS
Tint
trim
engine - 520/540, eddy heads, 6pak
alignment

Musicman

Maybe it's just the pic's, but it looks like the added flat stock (why???) is holding the wing at the wrong angle (leaning forward). Myself, I would have just let it rest in the valley, and worked from there.
Larry did it, what did he do?  :shruggy: Do you have the bracing kit that goes in the trunk?


70 sublime

67 Coronet I owned last summer
The space between the top of the rear 1/4 and the side window is very flat
I do not know if you got a Coronet 1/4 how you would end up blending this part onto the Charger
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

Aero426

Quote from: mauve66 on August 08, 2013, 02:57:52 PM
from what i can find so far the wheelbase and overall length seem to be the same (or very close, depending on the info)


Both cars are 117" w/b.   But I don't know how you make that Coronet panel work.    Your quarters on the car look pretty nice from the pics.   Be a shame to mess with them. 

   


70 sublime

Could you just get a thick piece of aluminum (or what ever that is easy to work with) and just carve the bottom to fit in the curve of valley of your car where you want to place the wing to make a spacer to set the wing posts on ??
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

GPULLER

I think getting the Coronet quarter to match the roof line on the Charger would be a major PITA.  Could be done with enough cutting/welding.

Musicman

Just send the wing to Reed (GPULLER), and all your troubles will be over :D

GPULLER

Quote from: Musicman on August 09, 2013, 11:08:13 AM
Just send the wing to Reed (GPULLER), and all your troubles will be over :D

:think: If those quarters are coming off in favor of Coronet qtrs, he can send me the old ones off the Charger. 

TUFCAT

I could take some pictures and measurements if you like.  :2thumbs:

Dino

It would be a whole lot less work to just cut out the valley and replace it with flat sheet metal.  No need to go cut up Tuffy's Coronet here.   :nana:

You could make the new sheet metal so that it is flat in the middle with the edges flaring up to mate with the roof and quarter edges.  You'd need minimal filler and nobody would ever notice you changed anything.  Win win!
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Musicman

It would be a lot less work to just research Larry's job, or ask Larry what he did if your really stumped. :Twocents:

mauve66

Quote from: Dino on August 09, 2013, 11:31:49 AM
It would be a whole lot less work to just cut out the valley and replace it with flat sheet metal.  No need to go cut up Tuffy's Coronet here.   :nana:

You could make the new sheet metal so that it is flat in the middle with the edges flaring up to mate with the roof and quarter edges.  You'd need minimal filler and nobody would ever notice you changed anything.  Win win!

he is getting all his replaced for free isn't he............. :scratchchin: :scratchchin:

TUFCAT, thanks if you have time, no rush, (i forgot how to spell your handle and theres like 230 pages of members or i would of asked sooner)

please measure from door opening to front of wheel well and from rear of wheel well to forward most edge of bumper

Quote from: Musicman on August 08, 2013, 03:44:04 PM
Maybe it's just the pic's, but it looks like the added flat stock (why???) is holding the wing at the wrong angle (leaning forward). Myself, I would have just let it rest in the valley, and worked from there.
Larry did it, what did he do?  :shruggy: Do you have the bracing kit that goes in the trunk?



i made the base pieces so that the base was level, then i lowered the front end of the car ALOT, i'm hoping that's what your looking at angle wise, i haven't had it completely off the go-jacks this year i don't think.  could be that the front end in those pics is on the ground (with torsion bars lowered) AND the rear is up on the go-jacks.  Maybe i should get some new pics??

I added the flat stock because the base of the wing is so wide that it wouldn't fit in the valley AND the rear of the top of the quarter flows down at the same angle as the trunk lid so i definitely had to raise the back to make it level to begin with

Quote from: Dino on August 09, 2013, 11:31:49 AM
It would be a whole lot less work to just cut out the valley and replace it with flat sheet metal.  No need to go cut up Tuffy's Coronet here.   :nana:

You could make the new sheet metal so that it is flat in the middle with the edges flaring up to mate with the roof and quarter edges.  You'd need minimal filler and nobody would ever notice you changed anything.  Win win!

that does sound like alot less work, but i'm not a welder.  i need to find someone doing some stuff on the side as the shops around here are production/insurance driven.


Robert-Las Vegas, NV

NEEDS:
body work
paint - mauve and black
powder coat wheels - mauve and black
total wiring
PW
PDLKS
Tint
trim
engine - 520/540, eddy heads, 6pak
alignment

mauve66

Quote from: Musicman on August 09, 2013, 11:35:32 AM
It would be a lot less work to just research Larry's job, or ask Larry what he did if your really stumped. :Twocents:

i talked to Larry years ago when his came out in hotrod or whatever mag it was.  he made his from tube framing and then bent sheetmetal (or something) around it.  i have never seen good pics of his bases but since he made everything from scrap i bet the base is pretty narrow to fit into the valley.  I wanted to use a something closer to a real wing so i wasn't exactly copying his.

i did grind my bas width down just a tad to help with everything but i didn't want to do too much and effect the overall stability fo the upright itself.

Quote from: Musicman on August 08, 2013, 03:44:04 PM
Maybe it's just the pic's, but it looks like the added flat stock (why???) is holding the wing at the wrong angle (leaning forward). Myself, I would have just let it rest in the valley, and worked from there.
Larry did it, what did he do?  :shruggy: Do you have the bracing kit that goes in the trunk?



yes i have the braces for the trunk, they will have to be shortened due to slope of trunk but i have them
Robert-Las Vegas, NV

NEEDS:
body work
paint - mauve and black
powder coat wheels - mauve and black
total wiring
PW
PDLKS
Tint
trim
engine - 520/540, eddy heads, 6pak
alignment

TUFCAT

Quote from: Dino on August 09, 2013, 11:31:49 AM
It would be a whole lot less work to just cut out the valley and replace it with flat sheet metal.  No need to go cut up Tuffy's Coronet here.   :nana:

:eek:

Dino

Quote from: TUFCAT on August 09, 2013, 10:16:27 PM
Quote from: Dino on August 09, 2013, 11:31:49 AM
It would be a whole lot less work to just cut out the valley and replace it with flat sheet metal.  No need to go cut up Tuffy's Coronet here.   :nana:

:eek:

:smilielol:

Not to worry, nobody's gonna mess with your sweetie.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.