69 SUNROOF with no M51 on tag???

[Charger Aficionado]

  I'm of the opinion if it isn't on tag, then it wasn't made with the option.  Now, this car has DOCUMENTATION that it was taken off the line for a US Senator, as a gift from Ma' MoPar.  Do you all suppose it's possible that the Chrysler execs, had it brought back through to have a roof added ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 

  Steve swears it all looks original.  He can't find a seam from the top where any metal was actually grafted from another car.  I suggested to him that he cut headliner, and look for seams in the metal.  Am I right to say there should only be ONE hole, and there should not be any metal seams???

[moparjohn]

You will not find a 69 with the M51 on the fender tag. There is a way to tell from the tag though, If you could list all the codes on your tag or place a pic I'll confirm it for you. John
                                     you also will not find the vinyl roof code checked on the build sheet but ALL Chargers that got a sunroof got a top

[Chris G.]

You will not find a 69 with the M51 on the fender tag. There is a way to tell from the tag though, If you could list all the codes on your tag or place a pic I'll confirm it for you. John
                                     you also will not find the vinyl roof code checked on the build sheet but ALL Chargers that got a sunroof got a top

Same deal for 1970. No M51 will appear on the tag, but it will show in the Vehicle Order Number (VON).

[Charger Aficionado]

wow.  Cool didn't know that one...  I wish I could find one.  I did find one in Canada that the guy was parting out (tan stuff)...  I really wish I knew if I could bring it across the border, because I wouid drive it...

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Nope....no M51 on the tag for 1969

The only true way is on the fendertag S/O #

This 6 digit # will start with 928

This code applies for 69......not sure on the 70's??  Chris??

[Chris G.]

In 1970, you will have an "M" in your VON. It will also not have the roof code on the tag.

[Johnny SixPack]

In 1970, you will have an "M" in your VON. It will also not have the roof code on the tag.

Here's an example:

[Chris G.]

Johnny's car is a VERY early built '70 Charger. The vinyl top is listed on his tag as well as the other early built 70's. After the first 3 or 4 days, the tags were back to normal and the factory stamps were in place.

[Johnny SixPack]

Johnny's car is a VERY early built '70 Charger. The vinyl top is listed on his tag as well as the other early built 70's. After the first 3 or 4 days, the tags were back to normal and the factory stamps were in place.

Thanks for pointing that out, Chris.

I didn't know that was the case. 

As Chris said, mine is 2nd day of production (8/02/69), so this definitely is NOT representative of all "70 sun roof car fender tags. 

[moparjohn]

that's correct, my car is #331 of 391 in 1969.

[Johnny SixPack]

that's correct, my car is #331 of 391 in 1969.

John, what's the build date of your "69 sun roof Charger?

[Badbob]

My 69, built April 1, 1969, is order #928235, no M51 on tag or the build sheet, no vinyl code as it started out a painted roof car. It is the 235th ordered sunroof in 1969. Rare with 4 speed. Available.

[dart3404]

My car is the twin to Bob's except he got the manly 4 spd and i got the girlie automatic. Build date December, 4th 1968 order #928073

M31 P31 R21 26 END
C16 C55 H51 J25 L31 M21
B5 B5 C6W W1 C04 928073
E63 D32 XP29 H9B 233231

[moparjohn]

May 6 1969 Johnnie

[Johnny SixPack]

May 6 1969 Johnnie

You're almost three months older than me.

Just four days off infact.

[Badbob]

My fender tag:

M21 M31 R21 END
A01 C16 C55 G15 G33 L31
B5 B5 C6W W1 401 928235
E63 D21 XP29 H9B 339712

[Charger Aficionado]

Well he said it started with 928...  GOOD NEWS GOOD NEWS...  I can't wait to get pix of it!

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

 

[Skyview69]

The digit on mine is 928124.  Does that mean it is the 124th one built?

[69_500]

Mine was 928359 with a build date of May 28th 1969.

[Johnny SixPack]

Did they change the order number style for the "70 sunroof cars? 

My order # is: M99116 (Aug. 2, 1969 as stated before)

I don't know if it being a Y16 (Executive Order Car) effects the order # or not though.

[69_500]

The order number on the 70's to be a sunroof is exactly as you typed, instead of a 928 to begin with it was a "M"

[Charger Aficionado]

I'm really glad Steve has this car now!  (so much better than seeing it sit)!   

Welp, here it is:   

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

PS fellas....this is a pretty rare car as well.......if Steve is reading his codes correctly on his tag, the car is coded for the V21 hood performance treatment as well...
His car is the second sunroof Charger to have the V21 option in the registry.
The other I have is a special order color (99 99) Butterscotch Yellow RT/SE car.   It has a black roof & black interior with black R/T stripe and the V21 option....

[Lowprofile]

Its good to see so many sunroof cars still around. Years ago, my Aunt had a 70 SE [I think] that had a Sunroof. The car got stolen by some neighborhood punks and was found 2 days later wrapped around a telephone pole.   Another Beautiful car meets an untimely demise at the hands of two junkies. Although unhurt in the accident, street justice was delt out by my Uncle weeks later.    A retired US Army Ranger [Viet-Nam] vs. 2 boney ass punks = 

[Alaskan_TA]

Chris,
Did the owner of 928048 register yet? I gave him your card right before the Seattle show last May. 

T/Ake care,
Barry

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Chris,
Did the owner of 928048 register yet? I gave him your card right before the Seattle show last May.

T/Ake care,
Barry

No Barry, not as of yet

Earliest I have is 071...latest is 359

I have 12 now total registered.....small amount out of the 391 built.

[Wakko]

Chris, send him an email:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Dodge-Charger-Rare-Factory-Sunroof-Big-Block_W0QQitemZ250015038540QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6199QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[69_500]

Thats not a bad looking project there on ebag.

[Charger_Fan]

Thats not a bad looking project there on ebag.

Wow, that's for sure. Even the trunk looks halfway solid!

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

I already contacted him......thats how I got the V21 code.....still waiting on pics of the tag

[Blakcharger440]

It sounds like there will be alot more "original" sunroof cars popping up in the near future since
there is really no fool proof way of documenting them i.e. buildsheet or fendertag. Bummer

[hemigeno]

It sounds like there will be alot more "original" sunroof cars popping up in the near future since
there is really no fool proof way of documenting them i.e. buildsheet or fendertag. Bummer

If the fender tag is on the car, the SO number would still have to start with 928(69) or M(70).  IIRC, wouldn't an original sunroof car have a drain line installed down one of the A-pillars that would be hard to retrofit and/or fake?

[69_500]

I think the drain tubes wouldn't be too hard to duplicate, but the fender tag would have a 928xxx on it, and that would be pretty obvious. Not too many people know that about the sunroof cars. Do the 70 cars have M51 on the buildsheets? I know some of the Challeners with sunroofs I've seen have the M51 on the buildsheet.

[Alaskan_TA]

'69 Charger with sunroof on Ebay right now;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Charger-1969-Dodge-Charger-R-T-Special-Edition-Sunroof-Rare-SE_W0QQitemZ300046913463QQihZ020QQcategoryZ6199QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Mean 318]

would a sunroof on a 74-76A body be the same for a 70 B body?

[Alaskan_TA]

Nope. The A-Body ones are smaller.

Barry

[69_500]

I talked to the gentleman who is selling that car about a year ago. At that time he was selling two HEMI cars. both were just rolling bodies. I believe it was a 68 HEMI RR, and I forget what the other one was. But he was wanting $20K for the rolling body to the RR. I wanted his Charger but at that time he said he wasn't going to part with it.

I wonder what made him change his mind.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

I wonder what made him change his mind.

Barrett-Jackson?