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are mopars louder than normal?

Started by 1974dodgecharger, July 24, 2013, 09:11:49 AM

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1974dodgecharger

Brought the 68 to work and of course had alot of compliments and my co workers wanted to hear her rumble more because when they saw me they said my car was misfiring like crazy and sound like it was not running right.
So they inspect it and realized the car is just louder than any muscle car they have heard  :scratchchin: they investigate it further and couldnt find anything wrong with it no misfiring as they thought it was, no special straight pipes of any sort, or anything.

they drive ford mustangs one had a 74 fastback mach 1 I believe and another had a boss 302 from 1970 he said cant remember, but they couldnt believe how loud of a rumble I had vs theirs.

Iv done nothing special to the car engine wise 383, hooker headers, edelbrock rpm heads, magnaflow 40 series (I think) and thats about it.

So are mopars louder than other muscle cars?

TUFCAT

Absolutely....and muffler choices don't have anything to with it.   :sarcasmalert:

Dino

BB vs SB I can see but I had a BB Chevelle next to me last year and both our cars were pretty similar in the volume department. 
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

charger_fan_4ever

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on July 24, 2013, 09:11:49 AM

Iv done nothing special to the car engine wise 383, hooker headers, edelbrock rpm heads, magnaflow 40 series (I think) and thats about it.

So are mopars louder than other muscle cars?

Your moving a fair bit more air through that motor now compared to stock.

If they had somewhat of a clue they would realize with aftermarket aluminum heads,long tubes and I assume a cam the engine is going to be loud as the engine is moving more air,different valve events and making more power.

Furthermore the block does not care if it started as a ford/gm/mopar lol

Dino

By the way, if the Ford flippos thing your car is misfiring and not running right just because it's louder than their pedal cars...you may want to ignore just about anything coming out of their mouths.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

68X426

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on July 24, 2013, 09:11:49 AM
So are mopars louder than other muscle cars?

Yes.

The only thing louder is the mouth on a Chevy owner.  :ohhthesarcasm:




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1974dodgecharger

just a pruple cam 509 installed......

They were just in awe at how loud it was and that something had to be wrong they claimed......maybe it is, but they inspected the car inside and out I even let them touch it and check out the wires etc...

they also couldnt believe she fired on the first key turn and then they claimed it was a fluke so I turned her off again, on, off, etc..they wanted to check if the timing is making it loud......Told them my car fires on the first shot 95% of the time....with no gas pump. 
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on July 24, 2013, 11:07:26 AM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on July 24, 2013, 09:11:49 AM

Iv done nothing special to the car engine wise 383, hooker headers, edelbrock rpm heads, magnaflow 40 series (I think) and thats about it.

So are mopars louder than other muscle cars?

Your moving a fair bit more air through that motor now compared to stock.

If they had somewhat of a clue they would realize with aftermarket aluminum heads,long tubes and I assume a cam the engine is going to be loud as the engine is moving more air,different valve events and making more power.

Back N Black

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on July 24, 2013, 12:55:15 PM
just a pruple cam 509 installed......

They were just in awe at how loud it was and that something had to be wrong they claimed......maybe it is, but they inspected the car inside and out I even let them touch it and check out the wires etc...

they also couldnt believe she fired on the first key turn and then they claimed it was a fluke so I turned her off again, on, off, etc..they wanted to check if the timing is making it loud......Told them my car fires on the first shot 95% of the time....with no gas pump. 
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on July 24, 2013, 11:07:26 AM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on July 24, 2013, 09:11:49 AM

Iv done nothing special to the car engine wise 383, hooker headers, edelbrock rpm heads, magnaflow 40 series (I think) and thats about it.

So are mopars louder than other muscle cars?

Your moving a fair bit more air through that motor now compared to stock.

If they had somewhat of a clue they would realize with aftermarket aluminum heads,long tubes and I assume a cam the engine is going to be loud as the engine is moving more air,different valve events and making more power.
Its obvious that these guys are not mechanically inclined.

Dino

Quote from: Back N Black on July 24, 2013, 01:06:06 PM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on July 24, 2013, 12:55:15 PM
just a pruple cam 509 installed......

They were just in awe at how loud it was and that something had to be wrong they claimed......maybe it is, but they inspected the car inside and out I even let them touch it and check out the wires etc...

they also couldnt believe she fired on the first key turn and then they claimed it was a fluke so I turned her off again, on, off, etc..they wanted to check if the timing is making it loud......Told them my car fires on the first shot 95% of the time....with no gas pump. 
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on July 24, 2013, 11:07:26 AM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on July 24, 2013, 09:11:49 AM

Iv done nothing special to the car engine wise 383, hooker headers, edelbrock rpm heads, magnaflow 40 series (I think) and thats about it.

So are mopars louder than other muscle cars?

Your moving a fair bit more air through that motor now compared to stock.

If they had somewhat of a clue they would realize with aftermarket aluminum heads,long tubes and I assume a cam the engine is going to be loud as the engine is moving more air,different valve events and making more power.
Its obvious that these guys are not mechanically inclined.

You're too kind.  I'd say they are morons!  So it's a fluke when your old car starts up right away?  Man I'm flukin' all over the place then!   :smilielol:
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

stripedelete

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on July 24, 2013, 12:55:15 PM
they also couldnt believe she fired on the first key turn and then they claimed it was a fluke so I turned her off again, on, off, etc..they wanted to check if the timing is making it loud......Told them my car fires on the first shot 95% of the time....with no gas pump. 

Drove a ton of 60s and 70s mopars back in the day.  They almost never fired on the first crank.  That's why the joke about the mopar starter sounding like it was laughing at you was so appropriate (and funny).

Strangley enough AMCs ALWAYS fired first crank regardless of weather conditions.   

c00nhunterjoe

Big block, small block, ford chevy dodge pontiac edsel..... doesn't matter. compression and exhaust denotes noise, not the logo on the grill. There are small blocks that I've heard louder then big blocks. Depends on your application.

As for firing on the 1st hit of the key, that's all about tuning. 3 pumps cold and mine fires on the 1st bump of the key. Once warm it kicks off by reaching through the window and bumping the key; unless its been sitting a few hours, then 1 pump and a bump (thanks to our ethanal fuels)

Ghoste

I asked this once before but with open exhaust.  I think it might be related to port velocity but I really have no idea.  I do know when I uncork the headers on my car my buddies can't hear their Ford and Chevy cars if they are beside me.

TUFCAT

Compression ratio and bore is everything.

If you compare a 512 stroker 440 motor with 11.0:1 compression (with same mufflers) to stock build 440 with 10.0:1 compression you'll hear a big difference in noise from the tailpipes.

Kern Dog

You can take a 350 Chevy and a Mopar 360, use similar cams and compression ratios, same types of exhaust systems....
They will sound almost identical. ALL V8s fire 2 cylinders every 90 degrees of crank rotation. The pairing of the firing order makes a sound that a straight six, V6, V10 or any other engine can never make.
A 383 Chevy VS a 400 Pontiac? Still the same. If you stray apart from matching the engine sizes, the noise will differ. In short, a Ford 221 2 barrel will certainly sound different than a 426 HEMI.

hatersaurusrex

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on July 24, 2013, 09:11:49 AM
Brought the 68 to work and of course had alot of compliments and my co workers wanted to hear her rumble more because when they saw me they said my car was misfiring like crazy and sound like it was not running right.
So they inspect it and realized the car is just louder than any muscle car they have heard  :scratchchin: they investigate it further and couldnt find anything wrong with it no misfiring as they thought it was, no special straight pipes of any sort, or anything.

they drive ford mustangs one had a 74 fastback mach 1 I believe and another had a boss 302 from 1970 he said cant remember, but they couldnt believe how loud of a rumble I had vs theirs.

Iv done nothing special to the car engine wise 383, hooker headers, edelbrock rpm heads, magnaflow 40 series (I think) and thats about it.

So are mopars louder than other muscle cars?

They're obviously intimidated by your huge... pipes - and feel the need to cut you down because their go-karts don't have balls the way your BB '68 does :)
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myk

People aren't used to listening to cars like ours anymore, which makes them seem that much more distinct than other cars.  Regardless, I'll take something like that as a compliment.  When someone says to me: yeah I heard your car rumbling and thought you were right around the corner, but then the rumbling just kept getting louder and louder and THEN I saw you-that car is LOUD!"  And the kicker is that it's pretty much stock, too.  Just wait until I get those TTi headers... :lol:

Dino

You're right, people are not used to it anymore.  I had a kid in front of me at the pump last night, he had a ricer with a huge fart can.  We finished at the same time so I got in my car and fired it up.  He looked real sad when he got in his car and when he fired his up it sounded like a 4 banger with a cookie jar on the back, oh wait, it was!   :smilielol:

Usually when I see these guys they make all the noise they can but this kid just idled out of there, I think he got the messsage.   :icon_smile_big:

The guy next to me was laughing his ass off.

My car is audible but unless I stomp on it I wouldn't call it loud, just very distinct.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

charger_fan_4ever

Kids nowdays are getting better though. I used to get revved at at the stop lights with my HCI mustang. Now its rare i get that anymore. I guess the kids now associate lumpy v8's with the charger in fast and furious that sent all the rice packing lol.

I have to say a 4 banger with a fart can is about the most annoying noise ever.

1974dodgecharger

Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on July 25, 2013, 11:39:48 AM
Kids nowdays are getting better though. I used to get revved at at the stop lights with my HCI mustang. Now its rare i get that anymore. I guess the kids now associate lumpy v8's with the charger in fast and furious that sent all the rice packing lol.

I have to say a 4 banger with a fart can is about the most annoying noise ever.


there are some 4 bangers out that strip out their whole car and leave only a seat to sit in to beat the v8s out there some win but majority lose of course.

Ghoste

It pains me to say, but there are also a lot of bone stock ricers out there that kick a lot of V8 ass.  The Suburu WRX comes to mind.

Darkman

Ricers may out run and out handle an old muscle car, but they would never get a second glance when parked next to a Charger  :D
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Quote from: Darkman on July 25, 2013, 05:51:43 PM
Ricers may out run and out handle an old muscle car, but they would never get a second glance when parked next to a Charger  :D

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Fords and Chevies only go up to 10, Mopars go to 11!  :icon_smile_big:
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Quote from: Ghoste on July 25, 2013, 12:00:51 PM
It pains me to say, but there are also a lot of bone stock ricers out there that kick a lot of V8 ass.  The Suburu WRX comes to mind.

Maybe so but if you take a 1968 Subaru and a 1968 Charger both bone stock off the floor, That Subaru aint kicking nobodys ass.
Dave  

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Cooter

In a word, No.....They are simply mistaken. My 505 C.I. engine is a just as annoyingly loud as my ragged ass 440.

Glasspacks can make your junk sound Loud as hell. Open exhaust can too, but this is just loud, NOT loud in a good way.
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Dino

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

c00nhunterjoe

Quote from: Ghoste on July 25, 2013, 12:00:51 PM
It pains me to say, but there are also a lot of bone stock ricers out there that kick a lot of V8 ass.  The Suburu WRX comes to mind.

Perhaps, but I didn't spend $45, 000 on my car.... let me spend that kind of cash on my car and we will see how it performs

1974dodgecharger

Quote from: Darkman on July 25, 2013, 05:51:43 PM
Ricers may out run and out handle an old muscle car, but they would never get a second glance when parked next to a Charger  :D

well said.....

Ghoste

If you spend 45k on your drivetrain then it wouldn't be a stock V8 anymore. :lol:
Hey I don't want a ricer and I don't like them, I was only responding to the statement that the ricers were being modified but still losing to V8's when the truth was that there are a bunch of those 4 bangers that bone stock are taking advantage of the power to weight and kicking ass.