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68 Charger 440 R/T will painting her black hurt the value.Origonally blue

Started by Dave27, July 22, 2013, 02:45:33 PM

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Dave27

I will be having my charger painted this winter and allthough she origonally is the bright blue color I love black and I was wondering what you guys think. Should I stick with the origonal blue or shoot her a beautifull gloss black. She allready has new interior which is black with the silver pleats in the seats (which is the origonal colors) and she has a black vinyl top.So she would be tripple black with the silver pleats and Then I was wondering how metallic silver stripes in the back would look or stick with white. Also I noticed most stripes are stuck on what about painted stripes with clear coat over them.What do you guys think, I like blue but have allways wanted a black charger and I allready have a restored blue 69 nova so I didnt really want another blue car.....Thanks in adavance.....Dave

Indygenerallee

It's your car, if you don't plan on selling it paint it whatever color you want. (Black is a good choice BTW!!!  :2thumbs:)
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

Ghoste

To people who like blue cars or people who can only stomach a car that is EXACTLY as it came from the factory, then yes the value will take a sharp kick in the crotch.  On the other hand, to anyone who likes black, the value is going to explode like a dropped cigarette in a firecracker factory.

Budnicks

I love Black too... To the "die hard purist", it will effect value, there probably will be negative comments too... Sometime supposedly as much as 20% with wrong color or non matching #'s... depends on the quality of the build... anyone else, "that's not a total die hard purist", that can't stand to see anything other than what came from the factory... the rest probably would like it... The silver stripe painted on, idea sounds cool too... like I said earlier, "the die hard purist wont like it thou".... IMHFO it's your car, do what makes you happy, screw the rest, especially if your not planning on selling it.... Life's too short to worry about that kind of stuff... good luck
"fill your library before you fill your garage"   Budnicks

charger_fan_4ever

We are in the same boat buddy. My 70 R/T was b5 white top,white inside with white longtitude stripes. I'm going tripple blackwith a red tail stripe. I just can't do b5. ifi t was b7 maybe i would have gone original color. Call me special, but i prefer F8 over blue.  I had a grabber blue fox body mustang for about 10 years. I'm done with blue lol.

Charger-Bodie

I love black too,BUT Dont paint it black unless you are ok with constant polishing to make the finish free of swirls.
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

bzabodyn

Love looking at black, hate owning it. Both our DDs are currently black and they are a headache to keep up with - on a Charger or other car you aren't going to bring out in inclement weather or drive everyday, probably better. I personally like the idea of the painted on stripes also - plan on doing it on my next project.

BZ
1969 Dodge Charger R/T - 426 HEMI/4 speed/Track Pack

chargerboy69

Quote from: Indygenerallee on July 22, 2013, 03:07:50 PM
It's your car, if you don't plan on selling it paint it whatever color you want. (Black is a good choice BTW!!!  :2thumbs:)

Agree.

My last 69 was black and I loved it.  I don't care if I had a Hemi Superbird (unless factory Alpine White) it would get painted black.
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TPR

I'm in the same situation too Dave. I have a 68 R/T in blue with black interior and black vinyl roof and it's in the back of my mind to paint it black, but at this stage it will be staying blue.
I just can't justify the cost and effort and the fact that the current paint job looks top notch.
I've always wanted a black Charger, but figure I'll just look for a black one when I eventually buy a '69 as well.
Personally I don't care about devaluing the car as I never intend on selling and a triple black '68 is very sought after over here.
Do whatever you want, it's your car.
If you go ahead with it, don't forget to show us some before and after pictures.
TPR
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 440 - UU1 Light Blue Metallic
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fy469rtse

dont worry about the color ,
when its a hemi car , worry about it then being original , its your car ::), do what you want with it.

Fred

My car came to me a virgin.   :lol:     It was originally white but I took care of that. Now she's black and I love it. Wouldn't have it any other way.


Tomorrow is promised to no one.......drive your Charger today.

Mopar Nut

Quote from: Fred on July 23, 2013, 01:33:12 AM
My car came to me a virgin.   :lol:     It was originally white but I took care of that. Now she's black and I love it. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Wow, a white virgin, how did you get so lucky?   :coolgleamA:

Paint it black, at least it wasn't green like mine  :shruggy:
"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

Fred

Quote from: Mopar Nut on July 23, 2013, 02:16:48 AM
Quote from: Fred on July 23, 2013, 01:33:12 AM
My car came to me a virgin.   :lol:     It was originally white but I took care of that. Now she's black and I love it. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Wow, a white virgin, how did you get so lucky?   :coolgleamA:



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Tomorrow is promised to no one.......drive your Charger today.

Bob T

Go for it Dave.
If you've already had a blue car then why argue with yourself. Its a hell of a colour to keep clean, I've developed arms like Popeye since I've owned this car, but yeah, its worthwhile. Funny enough, mine was originally QQ1 blue too and stripe delete, built Sept 7 1967 . But if it was still blue I'd be fine with it anyway, black cars do make a statement.
Probably won't hurt the value too much unless you were looking at the purist to sell it to.

Here's a few black Charger pics to keep you keen  ;)

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,99527.0.html

Old Dog, Old Tricks.

bakerhillpins

Too funny.  I bought a Triple Black 69 RT because it was originally a Q5 Turquoise and will some day paint it back to its original Q5 color. It's a black top/interior stripe delete car.

It's your car do what you want. Unless you are trying to make this an investment vehicle (no pun intended). And in that case you are probably going to be upside down in the long run.  :Twocents:

Quote from: 1HotDaytona on July 22, 2013, 06:59:28 PM
I love black too,BUT Dont paint it black unless you are ok with constant polishing to make the finish free of swirls.

Listen to him, it's a GIANT PITA. Black looks good I will give you that but isn't high on my list of favorites for this reason alone.  

Do you have kids? If you do think of it this way - remember when they were babies and you had to deal with all the diapers and long nights? Isn't it much better to hold your friends kids now? It is, because when they start crying and filling their diapers you can give it back to them to deal with it. Let someone else paint it Black and deal with the problems and you can enjoy their hard work. :rofl:
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TUFCAT

Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on July 22, 2013, 06:39:58 PM

My 70 R/T was b5 white top,white inside with white longtitude stripes. I'm going tripple blackwith a red tail stripe.

Quote

That's my dream color combo for a 1970 R/T!  :drool5: :drool5:

Dave27

Thanks guys for all of the replies. Well after reading all of you posts and doing a bunch of thinking she is going to be BLACK I dont mind pollishing or having to keep her clean that comes with the territory :) Just need to decide now if I'm going with the silver metallic tail stripes or white and if I am going to have them painted on or use pressure sensetive vinyl.If they are the stick on and I dont like them its easier to change :)

Back N Black

I went from Green to Black and no regrets. :2thumbs:

hatersaurusrex

Does it have A/C and do you live in a hot climate?   I thought about making my 68 triple black but then I realized I live in Tennessee and it doesn't have A/C.  That would cut the cruiseability down by a few months (like right now).  My DD is a black pickup truck WITH air and it's all I can do to keep from melting for the 10 seconds it takes me to start it and get the air running.

FWIW I'm still on the fence and probably will do it anyway.  I have to ask myself: Do I want to cruise less but smile more when I do, or cruise more and think 'Man I wish this car was black' the whole time?  You learn to live with what you love, warts and all.  You'll never be totally happy with a compromise.
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Dino

I love black cars but will never own one again.  In reality, it looks real nice and shiny maybe 10 days out of the year.

I love my white car because it takes a very long time before people notice I haven't washed it in weeks.   :icon_smile_big:

It's your car, do with it as you like. 
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Dave27

 
Nope no A/C and no I dont live in a hot climate 30 miles north of Seattle we get lots of rain here.It will only come out on nice dtas though.

Quote from: hatersaurusrex on July 23, 2013, 10:48:37 AM
Does it have A/C and do you live in a hot climate?   I thought about making my 68 triple black but then I realized I live in Tennessee and it doesn't have A/C.  That would cut the cruiseability down by a few months (like right now).  My DD is a black pickup truck WITH air and it's all I can do to keep from melting for the 10 seconds it takes me to start it and get the air running.

FWIW I'm still on the fence and probably will do it anyway.  I have to ask myself: Do I want to cruise less but smile more when I do, or cruise more and think 'Man I wish this car was black' the whole time?  You learn to live with what you love, warts and all.  You'll never be totally happy with a compromise.

westcoastdodge

wish my'68 were black my next one certainly will be.body work would have to be bang on for black :2thumbs:
I don't care what is is designed to do,I want to know what it can do.
Gene Kranz

charger_fan_4ever

Quote from: Dave27 on July 23, 2013, 09:16:53 AM
Thanks guys for all of the replies. Well after reading all of you posts and doing a bunch of thinking she is going to be BLACK I dont mind pollishing or having to keep her clean that comes with the territory :) Just need to decide now if I'm going with the silver metallic tail stripes or white and if I am going to have them painted on or use pressure sensetive vinyl.If they are the stick on and I dont like them its easier to change :)

I agree.

I know black will be a pita to keep clean and scratch free, but not like it will be a daily driver. All part of the game.

Dave27

I agree it comes with the territory :yesnod:


Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on July 23, 2013, 11:05:55 AM
Quote from: Dave27 on July 23, 2013, 09:16:53 AM
Thanks guys for all of the replies. Well after reading all of you posts and doing a bunch of thinking she is going to be BLACK I dont mind pollishing or having to keep her clean that comes with the territory :) Just need to decide now if I'm going with the silver metallic tail stripes or white and if I am going to have them painted on or use pressure sensetive vinyl.If they are the stick on and I dont like them its easier to change :)

I agree.

I know black will be a pita to keep clean and scratch free, but not like it will be a daily driver. All part of the game.

maxwellwedge

Quote from: ray on July 23, 2013, 11:04:12 AM
body work would have to be bang on for black :2thumbs:

Oh yeah....the body work is everything for black.

Dave27

 Well the car is rust free so there is no patch panels just a few dings and a small crease near the rear bumper.The front fenders and hood are AMD so thats all good. I also have an amazing body guy that I know could make sure she is straight as an arrow.All things I think point to a black paint job  :cheers:

Quote from: maxwellwedge on July 23, 2013, 11:56:43 AM
Quote from: ray on July 23, 2013, 11:04:12 AM
body work would have to be bang on for black :2thumbs:

Oh yeah....the body work is everything for black.

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: Dave27 on July 23, 2013, 04:17:48 PM
Well the car is rust free so there is no patch panels just a few dings and a small crease near the rear bumper.The front fenders and hood are AMD so thats all good. I also have an amazing body guy that I know could make sure she is straight as an arrow.All things I think point to a black paint job  :cheers:

Quote from: maxwellwedge on July 23, 2013, 11:56:43 AM
Quote from: ray on July 23, 2013, 11:04:12 AM
body work would have to be bang on for black :2thumbs:

Oh yeah....the body work is everything for black.



I personally think they all need to be the same straight as an arrow. No matter what the color.
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

tcs69rt

I think most people are right....it's your car, do what you want! My 69 RT is a matching #'s car and I plan (in a few years) to remove the matching #'s 440 and replace it with another big block that I can beat on and not worry about breaking. I also plan to strip the vinyl top and remove the rear RT emblems and put the factory RT red tail stripe. Nothing that can't be solved with a sander  :icon_smile_big:



Is it my eyes or does the back tire look like it's on fire?

Good Luck!  :cheers: TC
"Life ain't easy when you rode the short bus."

westcoastdodge

agreed :2thumbs:
Quote from: 1HotDaytona on July 23, 2013, 04:49:40 PM
Quote from: Dave27 on July 23, 2013, 04:17:48 PM
Well the car is rust free so there is no patch panels just a few dings and a small crease near the rear bumper.The front fenders and hood are AMD so thats all good. I also have an amazing body guy that I know could make sure she is straight as an arrow.All things I think point to a black paint job  :cheers:

Quote from: maxwellwedge on July 23, 2013, 11:56:43 AM
Quote from: ray on July 23, 2013, 11:04:12 AM
body work would have to be bang on for black :2thumbs:

Oh yeah....the body work is everything for black.



I personally think they all need to be the same straight as an arrow. No matter what the color.
I don't care what is is designed to do,I want to know what it can do.
Gene Kranz

bull

I would say the popularity of the previous color may have some affect on the value once it's painted black. There aren't too many people that seem to howl when green gets covered up but I'd tend to shy away from covering colors like red or certain blues, Hemi orange or bronze.

Ghoste


wingcar

......Only if there is a green fastback Mustang racing you near any gas stations......

Back in the day I had a 68 R/T that was originally yellow, had planned to paint it black (because of the movie "Bullitt") but traded it and cash on a '70 Hemi 4-speed Superbird before that happened.  The kid had to sell the Superbird because he was forever street racing, and the police had had enough...they would follow him everywhere, any time he would drive it................(his loss was my gain....I am sure my old '68 saw a lot of street racing in his hands...)

I own a black 2008 Challenger SRT...love how it looks in black, but as others have pointed out.....very hard to keep clean and looking perfect.....but when it's clean, there is no beating a black car...
1970 Daytona Charger SE "clone" (440/Auto)
1967 Charger (360,6-pak/Auto)
2008 Challenger SRT8 BLK (6.1/Auto) 6050 of 6400

Dave27

Just curious how come your removing your vinyl top.To each his own but I like the contrast. Lots of good comments. I agree every car should be straight as an arrow no matter what color. I see allot of 55 chevys that are bumpy and wavy with new paint on them. If it were me I would have done whatever it took to get it straight.


Quote from: tcs69rt on July 23, 2013, 05:33:58 PM
I think most people are right....it's your car, do what you want! My 69 RT is a matching #'s car and I plan (in a few years) to remove the matching #'s 440 and replace it with another big block that I can beat on and not worry about breaking. I also plan to strip the vinyl top and remove the rear RT emblems and put the factory RT red tail stripe. Nothing that can't be solved with a sander  :icon_smile_big:



Is it my eyes or does the back tire look like it's on fire?

Good Luck!  :cheers: TC

Dave27

Heres what the charger shares the garage with :)

Fred

Quote from: Dave27 on July 24, 2013, 09:06:02 AM
Heres what the charger shares the garage with :)

Oh my! That poor charger.   :pity:                                         

Only kidding.  :lol:


Tomorrow is promised to no one.......drive your Charger today.

Back N Black

Quote from: Dave27 on July 24, 2013, 09:06:02 AM
Heres what the charger shares the garage with :)

Better be careful, the Charger will hump that thing and throw it to the curb. :D

1974dodgecharger

Quote from: Back N Black on July 25, 2013, 11:41:29 AM
Quote from: Dave27 on July 24, 2013, 09:06:02 AM
Heres what the charger shares the garage with :)

Better be careful, the Charger will hump that thing and throw it to the curb. :D


lol, use that chevy, abuse it, until the chaer is done and then throw it out lol.

Dave27

 The other current ruler of the garage that also lives with the charger wouldnt allow that.....Meet Maximus the 69 NOVA 750HP blown 427 corvette crate motor tire roaster :icon_smile_big:


Quote from: Back N Black on July 25, 2013, 11:41:29 AM
Quote from: Dave27 on July 24, 2013, 09:06:02 AM
Heres what the charger shares the garage with :)

Better be careful, the Charger will hump that thing and throw it to the curb. :D

Dave27


68RT440

I have the best of both worlds. My 68 R/T is factory black, but it came with a green top and interior....it will be staying that way too!
1968 Charger R/T, matching numbers 440/727, black with green top and interior, currently getting restored by me

Mopar Nut

Quote from: 68RT440 on July 25, 2013, 07:40:15 PM
I have the best of both worlds. My 68 R/T is factory black, but it came with a green top and interior....it will be staying that way too!
Will you post a picture of that color combo?
"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

tpetty

Everyone should paint theirs black, so I have more to choose from when I start looking for one again!

Fred



Tomorrow is promised to no one.......drive your Charger today.

PocketThunder

Quote from: bull on July 23, 2013, 09:44:05 PM
I would say the popularity of the previous color may have some affect on the value once it's painted black. There aren't too many people that seem to howl when green gets covered up but I'd tend to shy away from covering colors like red or certain blues, Hemi orange or bronze.

Bull, Curtis, you can paint over bronze any day of the week.....   :Twocents:     :icon_smile_big:    :boogie:
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Dave27

Quote from: Fred on July 25, 2013, 10:22:55 PM
Quote from: Dave27 on July 25, 2013, 03:17:28 PM
Heres one more shot :)

Is that a pair of eyes staring back at me or do I need a drink?

Yes they blink to when you hit the gas pedal :)

Fred



Tomorrow is promised to no one.......drive your Charger today.

Baldwinvette77

Quote from: Dave27 on July 24, 2013, 09:06:02 AM
Heres what the charger shares the garage with :)
nice , so im not the only one  :lol: and wow, not alot of 68 coupes huh

Fred

Quote from: Dave27 on July 26, 2013, 10:06:35 AM
Quote from: Fred on July 25, 2013, 10:22:55 PM
Quote from: Dave27 on July 25, 2013, 03:17:28 PM
Heres one more shot :)

Is that a pair of eyes staring back at me or do I need a drink?

Yes they blink to when you hit the gas pedal :)

I've got a set of those too.   :lol:


Tomorrow is promised to no one.......drive your Charger today.

Budnicks

"fill your library before you fill your garage"   Budnicks

68RT440

Quote from: Mopar Nut on July 25, 2013, 07:45:20 PM
Quote from: 68RT440 on July 25, 2013, 07:40:15 PM
I have the best of both worlds. My 68 R/T is factory black, but it came with a green top and interior....it will be staying that way too!
Will you post a picture of that color combo?

I don't have any pics of it set up that way. We bought it from the original owner's son's best friend. After the original owner died, his son got it and changed a bunch of stuff on it. One of the things that he did was dye the green top black. He also put gold shag carpeting inside lol. Right now the car is a bare shell about to go on the rotisserie....
1968 Charger R/T, matching numbers 440/727, black with green top and interior, currently getting restored by me