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What is the value of a 68 charger complete under dash wire harness.

Started by Dave27, July 12, 2013, 09:55:39 AM

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Dave27

Harness is used has a couple wires cut and about 6 terminals need to be retermed.Comes with the ignition switch,key and fuse box.I dont know the value on this stuff since I am new to mopars so just thought I would ask.Mine was kind of hacked up which is why I'm looking at this one.....Thankyou...


Ghoste

I wouldn't get a used one personally with the availability of new quality repro harnesses.

tan top

 no point  getting   it , its ole as in 40 + years old ,  if i was  needing a load of the factory plastic  spade terninal covers , fire wall connector etc prolly pay $10 -$20  , thats the only thing i would be using it for  :Twocents:
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Dave27

Thanks guys he told me origonally it was nos but then when I saw it it was clearly a used one.Who has the best price on a repo one....Thankyou....Dave

Troy

Year One is the only place selling the M&H harness which is considered the best/most accurate. Buy when they are on sale though! Sometimes you can find a discount code posted in our Group Buys section. Today's code is " MCCA13" and it's "up to 28% off". Online orders only.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

Dave27


Mopar Nut

Quote from: Troy on July 12, 2013, 11:31:02 AM
Year One is the only place selling the M&H harness which is considered the best/most accurate. Buy when they are on sale though! Sometimes you can find a discount code posted in our Group Buys section. Today's code is " MCCA13" and it's "up to 28% off". Online orders only.

Troy

:iagree:
"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

Dave27


71 SE3834V

Quote from: Troy on July 12, 2013, 11:31:02 AM
Year One is the only place selling the M&H harness which is considered the best/most accurate. Buy when they are on sale though! Sometimes you can find a discount code posted in our Group Buys section. Today's code is " MCCA13" and it's "up to 28% off". Online orders only.

Troy


:sorry:
Classic Industries, as far back as their 2011 catalog, has sold M & H harnesses. I just replaced my engine, backup & forward lamp harnesses on my '71.
They're price is very close to Y.O. and I needed some other things that Y.O. didn't have plus I got in on a free shipping & handling deal which saved me about $31.00.
M & H is totally factory correct and easy to install. The only issue I had was the backup/neutral harness was shorter but just had to reroute it to make it work.

Oh, and the prices on the harnesses wouldn't discount when I was trying to mock up an order from Y.O. and plugged in a code.
Classic, I know, considers the harnesses to be already discounted so their 15-20% sales don't apply but you can get a free shipping deal at times if you spend over $199 which is easy to do.
71 Charger SE 383 4V
72 Galaxie 500 400 2V

1974dodgecharger

Is that 250 with some gold or is the wire setup gold plated?

Dave27

 Thankyou I'll check them out as well :)

Quote from: 71 SE3834V on July 12, 2013, 03:36:23 PM
Quote from: Troy on July 12, 2013, 11:31:02 AM
Year One is the only place selling the M&H harness which is considered the best/most accurate. Buy when they are on sale though! Sometimes you can find a discount code posted in our Group Buys section. Today's code is " MCCA13" and it's "up to 28% off". Online orders only.

Troy


:sorry:
Classic Industries, as far back as their 2011 catalog, has sold M & H harnesses. I just replaced my engine, backup & forward lamp harnesses on my '71.
They're price is very close to Y.O. and I needed some other things that Y.O. didn't have plus I got in on a free shipping & handling deal which saved me about $31.00.
M & H is totally factory correct and easy to install. The only issue I had was the backup/neutral harness was shorter but just had to reroute it to make it work.

Oh, and the prices on the harnesses wouldn't discount when I was trying to mock up an order from Y.O. and plugged in a code.
Classic, I know, considers the harnesses to be already discounted so their 15-20% sales don't apply but you can get a free shipping deal at times if you spend over $199 which is easy to do.

Dave27

He actually seemed p-off alittle bit when I told I was going to pass and it wasnt new old stock like he said. Even the fuse holders were coroded. I'm definatly going to get a new one.

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on July 12, 2013, 03:57:50 PM
Is that 250 with some gold or is the wire setup gold plated?

1974dodgecharger

Quote from: Dave27 on July 12, 2013, 04:22:09 PM
He actually seemed p-off alittle bit when I told I was going to pass and it wasnt new old stock like he said. Even the fuse holders were coroded. I'm definatly going to get a new one.

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on July 12, 2013, 03:57:50 PM
Is that 250 with some gold or is the wire setup gold plated?


smart move, the wires are not like an major important item to have original like an engine or body etc.

Troy

Quote from: 71 SE3834V on July 12, 2013, 03:36:23 PM
Quote from: Troy on July 12, 2013, 11:31:02 AM
Year One is the only place selling the M&H harness which is considered the best/most accurate. Buy when they are on sale though! Sometimes you can find a discount code posted in our Group Buys section. Today's code is " MCCA13" and it's "up to 28% off". Online orders only.

Troy


:sorry:
Classic Industries, as far back as their 2011 catalog, has sold M & H harnesses. I just replaced my engine, backup & forward lamp harnesses on my '71.
They're price is very close to Y.O. and I needed some other things that Y.O. didn't have plus I got in on a free shipping & handling deal which saved me about $31.00.
M & H is totally factory correct and easy to install. The only issue I had was the backup/neutral harness was shorter but just had to reroute it to make it work.

Oh, and the prices on the harnesses wouldn't discount when I was trying to mock up an order from Y.O. and plugged in a code.
Classic, I know, considers the harnesses to be already discounted so their 15-20% sales don't apply but you can get a free shipping deal at times if you spend over $199 which is easy to do.
Perhaps something changed? Year One had an "exclusive" license to sell the 68-70 dash harnesses (maybe just the rally dash harness?). Other places do sell M&H products but they can't get the entire catalog. I just check Classic Industries site and they list the Charger under dash harness for $510. I think the YO 30% off brings it down to about $425 though. Actually, just checked YO and couldn't find it listed. Odd.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

Ghoste

I imagine YO is selling them to them at a reduced price in exchange for something else.  They had a similar deal with the Paddock, remember?

kokxville

I'm looking for the same dash harness as well at this time.
Is it safe to order this at y.o. now?
1969 Charger R/T 4 speed A33 Track Pack.
1967 Dodge a108 360 Magnum. Daily driver
1969 Dodge Charger"the car you can take your kids in to school on a friday,go shopping on a saturday,dragrace on a sunday and go to work on monday"

Ghoste


71 SE3834V

Quote from: Troy on July 13, 2013, 09:21:15 AM
Quote from: 71 SE3834V on July 12, 2013, 03:36:23 PM
Quote from: Troy on July 12, 2013, 11:31:02 AM
Year One is the only place selling the M&H harness which is considered the best/most accurate. Buy when they are on sale though! Sometimes you can find a discount code posted in our Group Buys section. Today's code is " MCCA13" and it's "up to 28% off". Online orders only.

Troy


:sorry:
Classic Industries, as far back as their 2011 catalog, has sold M & H harnesses. I just replaced my engine, backup & forward lamp harnesses on my '71.
They're price is very close to Y.O. and I needed some other things that Y.O. didn't have plus I got in on a free shipping & handling deal which saved me about $31.00.
M & H is totally factory correct and easy to install. The only issue I had was the backup/neutral harness was shorter but just had to reroute it to make it work.

Oh, and the prices on the harnesses wouldn't discount when I was trying to mock up an order from Y.O. and plugged in a code.
Classic, I know, considers the harnesses to be already discounted so their 15-20% sales don't apply but you can get a free shipping deal at times if you spend over $199 which is easy to do.
Perhaps something changed? Year One had an "exclusive" license to sell the 68-70 dash harnesses (maybe just the rally dash harness?). Other places do sell M&H products but they can't get the entire catalog. I just check Classic Industries site and they list the Charger under dash harness for $510. I think the YO 30% off brings it down to about $425 though. Actually, just checked YO and couldn't find it listed. Odd.

Troy


Did you actually punch in a code and get an updated price w/YO?
When I tried back in March/April and I put in a current discount code then hit update and the prices wouldn't change so I assumed the discount didn't apply cause I had spoke to Classic and was told their % off didn't apply to harnesses but the free shipping did. Just trying to get correct info out there.
71 Charger SE 383 4V
72 Galaxie 500 400 2V

Mopar Nut

Quote from: Troy on July 13, 2013, 09:21:15 AM
Quote from: 71 SE3834V on July 12, 2013, 03:36:23 PM
Perhaps something changed? Year One had an "exclusive" license to sell the 68-70 dash harnesses (maybe just the rally dash harness?). Other places do sell M&H products but they can't get the entire catalog. I just check Classic Industries site and they list the Charger under dash harness for $510. I think the YO 30% off brings it down to about $425 though. Actually, just checked YO and couldn't find it listed. Odd.

Troy

Troy you're right, YearOne still has the "exclusive" license for Mopar. YearOne bought it from Chrysler years ago, this information is from M&H and verified from YearOne. You can buy M&H harnesses anywhere, but they are not the same Plug-n-Play, color coded and length. Any doubters, call M&H, excellent company.
"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

71 SE3834V

What did I buy then? It was Mopar color coded, identical plug connectors as factory and couldn't be easier to install. Other than the aforementioned backup harness I hung the old & new engine & front light harness from the ceiling and it was identical in every way to the factory ones.
Note in the following pic the part #'s HU231N & HU247B match the listing for my car on M & H's website.

As Ghoste has stated, I also think that if YO has exclusive rights then maybe they are distributing them.
71 Charger SE 383 4V
72 Galaxie 500 400 2V

Mopar Nut

Quote from: 71 SE3834V on July 13, 2013, 06:30:17 PM
What did I buy then? It was Mopar color coded, identical plug connectors as factory and couldn't be easier to install. Other than the aforementioned backup harness I hung the old & new engine & front light harness from the ceiling and it was identical in every way to the factory ones.
Note in the following pic the part #'s HU231N & HU247B match the listing for my car on M & H's website.

As Ghoste has stated, I also think that if YO has exclusive rights then maybe they are distributing them.
YearOne did sell those to Classic, #'s HU231N & HU247B are YearOne part numbers. #'s MD4515 & MD2489 above those item numbers are re-badged Classic's (distributing them). The only difference I could find is Classic does not have 30% off sales like YearOne. Thanks for bringing this up.
"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

71 SE3834V

Ok, now that we've established that Classic does sell Mopar M & H harnesses we're on to my other point....the discount. As I said for some reason I couldn't get a code to work last spring for me but I did just do a mock order from YO.
Long story short, #HU247B is discount exempt from YO so my total for the 3 harnesses I bought was $27.12 more from Classic which I said was competitive. This is factoring in the free ship from C.I. and today's discount from YO.
As I said, I got some other parts from Classic that YO didn't offer namely a wiring strap kit, 2 packs of extra connectors, battery matts (cheaper), etc.

I'm just trying to get info out to the peeps on here. Believe me, I spent days this past winter (was recouping from a major surgery) going over alot of websites trying to get the best deal on a load of parts. Moral of the story....don't flat count on a discount. Some items are exempt.

Oh, and if you sign up at CI you'll get emails offers of 15-20% off every week and about once a month free shipping.
Disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated with Classic Ind. I am just a cheap bastard that'll spend hours on the net to save a buck! The way I figure is I'll then have one more buck to put elsewhere in the car.
71 Charger SE 383 4V
72 Galaxie 500 400 2V

71 SE3834V

Quote from: Troy on July 13, 2013, 09:21:15 AM
Quote from: 71 SE3834V on July 12, 2013, 03:36:23 PM
Quote from: Troy on July 12, 2013, 11:31:02 AM
Year One is the only place selling the M&H harness which is considered the best/most accurate. Buy when they are on sale though! Sometimes you can find a discount code posted in our Group Buys section. Today's code is " MCCA13" and it's "up to 28% off". Online orders only.

Troy


:sorry:
Classic Industries, as far back as their 2011 catalog, has sold M & H harnesses. I just replaced my engine, backup & forward lamp harnesses on my '71.
They're price is very close to Y.O. and I needed some other things that Y.O. didn't have plus I got in on a free shipping & handling deal which saved me about $31.00.
M & H is totally factory correct and easy to install. The only issue I had was the backup/neutral harness was shorter but just had to reroute it to make it work.

Oh, and the prices on the harnesses wouldn't discount when I was trying to mock up an order from Y.O. and plugged in a code.
Classic, I know, considers the harnesses to be already discounted so their 15-20% sales don't apply but you can get a free shipping deal at times if you spend over $199 which is easy to do.
Perhaps something changed? Year One had an "exclusive" license to sell the 68-70 dash harnesses (maybe just the rally dash harness?). Other places do sell M&H products but they can't get the entire catalog. I just check Classic Industries site and they list the Charger under dash harness for $510. I think the YO 30% off brings it down to about $425 though. Actually, just checked YO and couldn't find it listed. Odd.

Troy


Their underdash harnesses  for the '68 w/gauges comes down to $387.74 w/the code. I just checked 6 other part #'s and all are discounted except for some reason the most expensive one I needed. Must be a 3rd gen bias.  :icon_bs:
Even the under dash one for my '71 is discounted so I don't know what the deal is w/the lamp harness. At least if I need a dash harness I'll know where to look.
71 Charger SE 383 4V
72 Galaxie 500 400 2V

Mopar Nut

Quote from: 71 SE3834V on July 13, 2013, 10:20:05 PM
Oh, and if you sign up at CI you'll get emails offers of 15-20% off every week and about once a month free shipping.
I have CI discount with free shipping code now.
"National Collector Car Appreciation Day, and Classic Industries is offering our loyal customers up to 10%* off their order now through July 16th! As an added bonus, orders over $199 will receive Free Ground Shipping to the contiguous 48 states!*

Collector Car Appreciation Day events are taking place all over the United States, Canada, and Australia, see if there's an event near you! Enjoy a day set aside for appreciating classic cars and take advantage of these great savings from Classic industries while they last!

*Some restrictions apply. Please check www.classicindustries.com for current pricing.

Hurry, offer ends July 16th, 2013 at midnight PST.
Use code CCAD13 when asked during checkout.

"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

hatersaurusrex

Quote from: Dave27 on July 12, 2013, 04:22:09 PM
He actually seemed p-off alittle bit when I told I was going to pass and it wasnt new old stock like he said. Even the fuse holders were coroded. I'm definatly going to get a new one.

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on July 12, 2013, 03:57:50 PM
Is that 250 with some gold or is the wire setup gold plated?

Awkwardness you get from a pissed off seller lasts maybe 10 seconds, awkwardness in explaining why the project you just put dozens of K-notes into is now a smoldering pile of rubble will last forever.  Good call.
[ŌŌ]ƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖ[ŌŌ] = 68
[ŌŌ][ƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖ][ƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖƖ][ŌŌ] = 69
(ŌŌ)[ƗƗƗƗƗƗƗƗƗƗƗƗƗƗƗƗƗƗ](ŌŌ) = 70

Ghoste


Troy

I have purchased 3 dash harnesses from Year One (2 Charger and 1 Challenger) and always used a discount code (otherwise I wouldn't have bothered). It does makes sense that they can resell to others - but I'd assume the other places can't beat the price (although they could sell at retail and still make a little). Interesting to note that M&H makes them "incorrect" as well. Had I known that I'd have gone that route for one car as I have to cut the harness any way.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

maxwellwedge

Frank Badalson sells the MH stuff as well. He helped them "straighten out" some of the stuff that was wrong.

Ghoste


maxwellwedge

I think they have a lot of the original drawings.....not sure they were the supplier back in the day.

Ghoste


maxwellwedge

I think they may be OEM now to some of the manufacturers on new stuff.

Ghoste

Which could well be how they got their hands on old drawings if they were not an oem back in the day.

moparstuart

Quote from: maxwellwedge on July 15, 2013, 11:19:45 AM
Frank Badalson sells the MH stuff as well. He helped them "straighten out" some of the stuff that was wrong.
there 70 dash harness i have i want to rip out of my car and throw it away  
 that thing is a POS  
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Ghoste


moparstuart

Quote from: Ghoste on July 15, 2013, 04:18:03 PM
What are the problems with it?
wrong color wires for all the connections   and more then 50 extra plug i have hanging up under there taped up in several balls .
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Ghoste


moparstuart

Quote from: Ghoste on July 15, 2013, 04:45:29 PM
That almost sounds like the completely wrong harness. :shruggy:
yeah well we call them 50 times and they worked us through getting the damn thing installed but hey would not take it back ,  We could only lay under there for 20 minutes at a time installing before my back was trashed , with a cell phone have them work us through getting it in and its still f'ed up  . 
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Ghoste


moparstuart

Quote from: Ghoste on July 15, 2013, 04:51:40 PM
Something smells bad there.
problem was it was purchased about 5 years before it got installed  
           you know roject gets a rolling you need parts then project stalls and parts are not used in a time period they want to warranty it in  

 
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Ghoste

YO thohg in spite of their shipping charges are usually pretty good about returns.  If the part is wrong, its wrong.

71 SE3834V

Quote from: Troy on July 15, 2013, 11:11:23 AM
I have purchased 3 dash harnesses from Year One (2 Charger and 1 Challenger) and always used a discount code (otherwise I wouldn't have bothered). It does makes sense that they can resell to others - but I'd assume the other places can't beat the price (although they could sell at retail and still make a little). Interesting to note that M&H makes them "incorrect" as well. Had I known that I'd have gone that route for one car as I have to cut the harness any way.

Troy


In my search last winter I found some other sites selling also but at a much higher price and not the complete catalog.
Don't know why my code didn't work months ago but it's water under the bridge. Probably my fault. Punched in a wrong # or something. Ah, anyway like I said, needed other stuff and rather than pay for shipping from 2 places I got it all at once and it's installed so I'm moving on....

Quote from: moparstuart on July 15, 2013, 04:55:07 PM
problem was it was purchased about 5 years before it got installed you know roject gets a rolling you need parts then project stalls and parts are not used in a time period they want to warranty it in 

Part of the reason I kicked myself in the butt and got mine installed after a month and a half even though I wasn't going to be driving the car. Didn't want to have a problem. I know what you mean though. Mine's on the back burner now.
71 Charger SE 383 4V
72 Galaxie 500 400 2V

Dave27

So which part number for a under dash harness from year one for a 68 charger. It just says on their website 1968 Plymouth and Dodge B-body models with oil gauge is that the correct one HU269B

Ghoste

Jeez their website sucks.  Type Charger dash harness into the search and you get ac conversion kits.

Dave27

I agree .Ok get the part number its HU269B for 68 witrh ralley gauges.Best price I can get from them seems to be 408.15 plus 19.31 for shipping for a total of 427.46 seems like allot.

Mopar Nut

If you are not in a hurry, wait for their 30% off sale, should be one for the Holiday.
"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

bull

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on July 12, 2013, 03:57:50 PM
Is that 250 with some gold or is the wire setup gold plated?

They are solid gold and plated with titanium insulation.

Dave27

I'm allways in a hurry  :icon_smile_big: I'm excited to get her on the road infact I allready have the dash out :)