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Opinions on Goodmark Quarter Skins?

Started by Monziac, April 09, 2013, 07:53:12 PM

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Monziac

My point is they advertise superior quality and it is not. It would require the same work if not more to repair this "quality" panel that to patch oem metal. If it wasn't for my dented panel, I would probably do that. From what I understand, these used to be very nice. They should either fix the tool or price them accordingly.

charger_fan_4ever

Quote from: Monziac on July 02, 2013, 12:34:04 PM
My point is they advertise superior quality and it is not. It would require the same work if not more to repair this "quality" panel that to patch oem metal. If it wasn't for my dented panel, I would probably do that. From what I understand, these used to be very nice. They should either fix the tool or price them accordingly.

I bought my 70 1/4s from amd soon after they came to market $1900 up here in canada and the body line is a joke all over the place and waves.

My original 1/4 was rotten on the topside,sail panels,infront and behind even over top of the wheel. I had no choice, but if a car just needs patches buy the amd 1/2 quarters and cut out the parts you need.

Monziac

Thats what I did on the driver side but the pass side was hit hard at some point, so like you I had little choice.  Normally I can't wait to cut out the rot and get a new panel on, but this is just sitting in the corner because I cant get excited about all the filler its gonna take.

charger_fan_4ever

More AMD surprises. I notified them of this after we got the skin on.






Not a huge deal, but having to hammer/dolly/putty a new $300 skin does not make sense.

Mike DC

  
Yeah that door problem with the '70 scoops was first identified a few years ago.  


There's probably not enough people combining AMD door skins with 1970 scoops to bring much light on the issue.


Dino

Correct me if I'm wrong.  I have seen numerous posts on different websites where people complain their AMD part is made in Taiwan but aren't they all?  Like you said Mike, nobody wants to spend $5K on a skin.

That quarter is ridiculous, I was a professional body man for a long time and that crap would go back without hesitation.  If that's all you can have then they really need to slash the price.  How bad is the stock quarter?  When I restore mine I'll make my own panels but I only need the lower part.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Monziac

The Taiwan thing just dissapointed me some because I worked very hard to keep my company American. I understand how it goes though.... My quarter was not salvageable, but I would gladly take a oem with rusted out bottoms over this piece, but its not like they are in every junk yard.... $350 plus the ride is about $500 for a wavy quarter.  That chaps my ass....  Oh well, better pick up another gallon of Rage!  I marked the cuts today. I will feel better when this is behind me.

Dino

Know anyone with metal skills?  A shrinker would be better than mudding it.  You can gently push the crease back going side to side real slow.  A good wide screwdriver works well if you can lock the quarter down somehow.  I wouldn't start hammering on it unless you have a plan though.   :icon_smile_big:

The days of Made in the USA are sadly over.  We can all complain about Chinese junk but it's our companies ordering the junk and they will not move production here becasue we are not willing to pay that much more.

I honestly don't care where something is made but I do expect to get my money's worth and those quarters do not fall in that category. 
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Patronus

Why don't you send it back. Get your money back, and then start shaping your new hand-made quarter? ...Or, you could beat on it, tape it out straight, add the filler you were going to have to add anyway and then block it for the next 3 months like everyone else here? I'm not trying to be an ass, just sayin'... if it were easy chicks would do it.
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hemi-hampton

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on July 02, 2013, 10:30:06 AM
QuoteI would almost prefer to buy a rotten quarter, repair it and put it on...... This is pathetic. Cant believe they are selling this, and at a premium..

I'll send you a rotten used quarter panel in exchange for your wavy AMD one.  Deal? 



The same panel made in the USA would cost a couple thousand dollars each.  Classic Body Designs produced it a few years ago.  The public voted with their wallets.  People didn't like spending $4-5k just for a set of good quarters.
   
You get what you pay for, Buy Cheap Taiwan or buy the better Quality more espensive USA part. I remember in late 80's & 90's having to deal with Sherman & Associates. Then Trojan aftermarket :brickwall: LEON.

charger_fan_4ever

It is somewhat disappointing witht he waves and all, but i couldn't have restored it if we were back int he days of 1 set of NOS 1/4's appearing once a yea ron ebay for $2-3000 a side.

Like lots have said its something to work with. :Twocents:

Ryan

Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on July 04, 2013, 11:38:02 AM
It is somewhat disappointing witht he waves and all, but i couldn't have restored it if we were back int he days of 1 set of NOS 1/4's appearing once a yea ron ebay for $2-3000 a side.

Like lots have said its something to work with. :Twocents:

ya good point. It does suck that the new quarters aren't laser straight and that they need plenty of modifying to make them fit perfectly however they are workable and have saved plenty of chargers that otherwise would not be savable.
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bill440rt

I used a passenger side skin from Auto Body Specialties on my '69, this was just before the AMD's came out. I retained all the factory body openings though, & trimmed the quarter to fit. Also installed it just below the top body line.
After trimming the skin it was just a large patch panel. I honestly didn't think it was too bad to work with. A few days of blocking and all was good. Filler was kept thin.
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

green69rt

All this talk of bad quarters got me worried so went out and looked at mine.  I bought them about 3 years ago.  They seem straighter than some discussed here.  Still need some filler for the wavy parts but fairly straight.  Also they are just skins, not full quarters although that should not make any diff.

bill440rt

I thought they were fine too after a bit of filling the seams and some blocking.
Granted, they are not factory pieces but did the job for me. I've never worked with AMD full quarters yet so I have nothing to compare them to.
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

charger_fan_4ever

Both of my 70 AMD 1/4's with passengers side being the worst you can see the middle body line is all over the place. Worse from behind the wheel to the side marker.

Patronus

I believe skins are formed larger to fit over the original metal.
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'69 Charger 383 "Luci"
'08 CRF 450r
'12.5 450SX FE

green69rt

Quote from: Patronus on July 04, 2013, 10:18:20 PM
I believe skins are formed larger to fit over the original metal.
AMD told me the skins are made on the same tools as the full quarters but without the sail panel section. :shruggy:

green69rt

Quote from: Patronus on July 04, 2013, 10:18:20 PM
I believe skins are formed larger to fit over the original metal.
AMD told me the skins are made on the same tools as the full quarters but without the sail panel section. :shruggy:
Remember mine were made at least three years ago, things change...

Patronus

Perhaps "were" would have been better.. I have to agree, that quarter does look pretty bad, and I would be pretty upset after spending my hard-earned coin too. You have every right to be pissed, but nowadays you're just going to have to fix it. Hell, I sliced open the top of one 4" to fit the door better. Plus the rear window corners had to be reworked..  :scratchchin:
'73 Cuda 340 5spd RMS
'69 Charger 383 "Luci"
'08 CRF 450r
'12.5 450SX FE

bill440rt

Quote from: Patronus on July 04, 2013, 10:18:20 PM
I believe skins are formed larger to fit over the original metal.


Your belief might be very well correct, especially on the Auto Body Specialties skins.
The outer lines are oversize, and the door opening is horrible. But, if you cut that all off & retain the original openings & use it as a patch panel the fitment is very decent.
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

hemi-hampton

Here's a pretty wavy one I had to straighten. Lots of Bondo. LEON.

Patronus

Call me sick but I absolutely love seeing the body come straight. Walking up to a 40 year old car with a block and some 80 grit is like scratching an old itch. I like to see the lows come out in the different coats almost like grain in wood.
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'69 Charger 383 "Luci"
'08 CRF 450r
'12.5 450SX FE

Monziac

Well, quarter is on. I used a chalk line to help me de ide which part of the body line I was adjusting to. It fit well, and I worked out a lot of the waves, but the lines will only get straight with filler. I will get oadt this and regain momentum.  :cheers:
Thanks,
Jon