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1969 Dodge Charger w/ 383 4sp. matching #s...good buy?

Started by indreams84, June 30, 2013, 10:09:46 AM

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indreams84

Hi, so I am finally attempting to buy my dream car and came across this by word of mouth: 1969 Dodge Charger 383-4 barrel 4 speed R4 red....it is an original #s matching engine (not transmission), from a southern state. I have not inspected the car yet. Trunk pan replaced, quarters replaced, new paint, etc. The images were BEFORE the black vinyl roof was put back on. Fender tag supports his claim this was a R4 red car w/ red interior, manual, 335hp 383/4bbl, 4 spd car. His price is $30,000. Thoughts? I am on verge of buying a plane tix to inspect/drive to make a determination. Thanks for any input!
1969 Dodge Charger R/T #s Matching


ACUDANUT

If it's solid, than it seems like a great buy. Fixing up a 318 Charger to this level would cost you about the same. Big Block 4-speed cars are worth it. :cheers:

indreams84

That was my line of thinking...it seems to get an R/T of this supposed quality would be around $40k or more. Plus I'm only 28 and an RN so 30K was my top limit.
1969 Dodge Charger R/T #s Matching

Homerr

Seems like a nice car, for the price I'd say it should look nice inside, underneath, and under the hood.  Deduct accordingly.

I'd offer $5k less and see if he budges.

Scaregrabber

Mickey Mouse radio antennae and it looks like it needs more block sanding. Get the guy to send some better photos before getting too excited.

Sheldon

indreams84

The interior looks good, although not the original red interior (its black), new clutch installed, engine rebuilt, new vinyl top, all hoses/electricals are working. Yeah, I am not committed to anything until I get lots and lots of images, especially the before and after shots.
1969 Dodge Charger R/T #s Matching

Ghoste

If it's solid and a big block four speed car with a seldom seen interior color then I think it could be worth it.

Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: Ghoste on June 30, 2013, 02:57:14 PM
If it's solid and a big block four speed car with a seldom seen interior color then I think it could be worth it.


Especially with the color variance of R4 & R6 interior....was only 1 4-speed XP car in the Registry like this (R4, R6 & V1X) from CO
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


indreams84

Third line of VIN reads:

R4 R4 C6R R6 C3 116XXX

I am assuming this means it was originally red interior
1969 Dodge Charger R/T #s Matching

Just 6T9 CHGR

St. Louis built car correct?   Still has the black interior in it huh?

Chris' '69 Charger R/T


472 R/T SE


1974dodgecharger


tan top

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

1974dodgecharger

Quote from: ACUDANUT on June 30, 2013, 10:41:13 AM
If it's solid, than it seems like a great buy. Fixing up a 318 Charger to this level would cost you about the same. Big Block 4-speed cars are worth it. :cheers:

they always ARE!!!!!  :2thumbs:

Fred

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on July 01, 2013, 02:44:45 AM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on June 30, 2013, 10:41:13 AM
If it's solid, than it seems like a great buy. Fixing up a 318 Charger to this level would cost you about the same. Big Block 4-speed cars are worth it. :cheers:

they always ARE!!!!!  :2thumbs:

:iagree:


Tomorrow is promised to no one.......drive your Charger today.

bakerhillpins

Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on June 30, 2013, 08:23:46 PM
St. Louis built car correct?   Still has the black interior in it huh?


I am pretty sure that is the SAME car. Which when I was looking at the car it was for sale for 20k. I have a bunch of pics of this car. I didn't end up pursuing this car as it had too much rust and the broadcast sheet had been lost by the seller. It didn't sell fast at 20k as I was contacted months later to see if I was still interested.  I was told the trans was matching but I never went so far as to have someone look it over. The vinyl was removed because there was lots of bubbling under it. Which would be explained by the new quarters/trunk and paint.

Oh, yea, IIRC it was a Manual drum car that had a disc brake conversion done to it.
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indreams84

No, this car the owner claims was bought out of West Virginia, it is currently located in TN, but he did say it does not have a build sheet (previous owner killed, could not relocate?). The VIN appears to show it was a Newark-built car, and had disc brakes and air conditioning as factory options.

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Tilar

Paint brush marks... It doesn't take long to paint one using that method, but it sure as hell takes a long time to fix it right. Don't ask me how I know that.  :brickwall:
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



bakerhillpins

Quote from: indreams84 on July 02, 2013, 10:13:18 AM
No, this car the owner claims was bought out of West Virginia, it is currently located in TN, but he did say it does not have a build sheet (previous owner killed, could not relocate?). The VIN appears to show it was a Newark-built car, and had disc brakes and air conditioning as factory options.



Yes, it's the same car that Just 6T9 CHGR posted pics of. It was for sale out of Rocky Mt VA when I looked at it. There was bubbling under the vinyl on the passenger sail panel which if they replaced full quarters would have corrected that problem.

That tag does not spec Disc brakes (B41) but rather Power brakes (B51), and there is NO AC coded (H51) on that tag.

One great wife (Life is good)
14 RAM 1500 5.7 Hemi Crew Cab (crap hauler)
69 Dodge Charger R/T, Q5, C6X, V1X, V88  (Life is WAY better)
96' VFR750 (Sweet)
Capt. Lyme Vol. Fire

"Inspiration is for amateurs - the rest of us just show up and get to work." -Chuck Close
"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein
Go that way, really fast. If something gets in your way, turn.
Science flies you to the moon, Religion flies you into buildings.

indreams84

Quote from: bakerhillpins on July 02, 2013, 11:27:35 AM
Quote from: indreams84 on July 02, 2013, 10:13:18 AM
No, this car the owner claims was bought out of West Virginia, it is currently located in TN, but he did say it does not have a build sheet (previous owner killed, could not relocate?). The VIN appears to show it was a Newark-built car, and had disc brakes and air conditioning as factory options.



Yes, it's the same car that Just 6T9 CHGR posted pics of. It was for sale out of Rocky Mt VA when I looked at it. There was bubbling under the vinyl on the passenger sail panel which if they replaced full quarters would have corrected that problem.

That tag does not spec Disc brakes (B41) but rather Power brakes (B51), and there is NO AC coded (H51) on that tag.



Thanks for information fellas, truly helps out a first time prospective Charger buyer. The current owner told me the car is rust free as of now, and being worked since purchase, including metal work, engine bay paintwork, and whatnot. He says he has to put a fair amount of money into it since purchasing, hence why he's firm at price. Makes me second guess though.
1969 Dodge Charger R/T #s Matching

maxwellwedge

Most people do not know how to properly do rear quarters - so that always makes me nervous.

Just 6T9 CHGR

Plant code is St. Louis (G).....no '69 Chargers built at Newark assy plant.  Only St. Louis, MO (G) & Hamtramck, MI (B)

Chris' '69 Charger R/T


1974dodgecharger

Quote from: maxwellwedge on July 02, 2013, 12:29:24 PM
Most people do not know how to properly do rear quarters - so that always makes me nervous.

aint gonna lie thats how mine are NOT PERFECT when the rear quarter was replaced the curve at the very bottom is tough how I know this well I put the trim piece on the rear well and it was off by 1inch or so.  No one knows unless you get on your knees and look at it.

indreams84

Thanks, and yes Bakerhillpins helped clarify the overall story on this car to me..which will help if I go through with actually looking at it.
1969 Dodge Charger R/T #s Matching