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999 Paint code Aero, and other, Mopars - input and data sought.

Started by Arnie Cunningham, October 16, 2010, 04:09:15 PM

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Arnie Cunningham

Greetings All,

The Petty Blue Superbird discussions have brought me additional questions about other Petty Blue cars and 999 paint code vehicles in general.  I would like to ask if there is any interest in documenting examples of 999 Mopars (Aero or not).  I am not sure where to put this post because if spans all models and began here.

Are there well documented examples of 999 paint code Charger 500s and Daytonas?

Also, Hugh Clark contacted me asking about the 66 Belvedere recently in MCG that his brother bought new with special ordered Petty/Corporate Blue paint.  Has anyone heard of an earlier car in this color?

How long was 999 used as a reference to non-standard paints?  I have seen reference to a 1965 RO car.  Did 999 continue on into the 70s?

Another enthusiast, Daniel Miller, has asked me about the 68 Petty Blue Road Runners of which 10 were supposed to be built.  Is there anyone else out there with knowledge of these cars?

Thanks,
Brennan R. Cook
Brennan R. Cook RM23U0A169492 EV2 Manual Black Buckets Armrest 14" Rallyes
Arnie Cunningham was the Plymouth obsessed youth in the novel/movie Christine.
Brcook.com contains the entire NASCAR shipping list of Superbirds sorted by VIN and a number of other pages dedicated to production information.

Alaskan_TA

99 up to '69, but I do not know when it started.

999 ran from the start of the 1970 model year into at least the 1974 model year.

Occasionally other codes were used as well, A15 comes to mind, 98E, etc........

no318

Saw a 999 code on a 73 fury 6 pass wagon today at an estate auction.  It was bright grass green with a white painted top.  It was originally a game and parks state owned vehicle.  Also had a Y39 code.

Arnie Cunningham

The government vehicle makes perfect sense.  I would not be surprised if the Dodge military trucks and cars had a 99 or 999 code.
Brennan R. Cook RM23U0A169492 EV2 Manual Black Buckets Armrest 14" Rallyes
Arnie Cunningham was the Plymouth obsessed youth in the novel/movie Christine.
Brcook.com contains the entire NASCAR shipping list of Superbirds sorted by VIN and a number of other pages dedicated to production information.

69CoronetRT

Quote from: Alaskan_TA on October 16, 2010, 05:50:49 PM
99 up to '69, but I do not know when it started.

999 ran from the start of the 1970 model year into at least the 1974 model year.

Occasionally other codes were used as well, A15 comes to mind, 98E, etc........

62=999
63 = ?
64= 99
65, 66 = 999
67 = ?
68 = 999
69 = 99
70-76 = 999 but you start to see three digit or digit and letter paint codes starting to show up on '76 cop cars.

I'm not sure about 77 and later. You see a lot of three digit paint codes (005, 014, 015, 246, etc) on cop cars instead of 999 like earlier years.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

nascarxx29

This chart shows the petty blue color for 66-68 if its accurate .I was looking for a color chart sample of 67 Hawaii blue.Thinking it was near petty blue but no color chips
http://www.dodge-charger.org/salescodes_270-289.html. Found this chart
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

70PETTYROADRUNNER

I have a  70  440-6  4 speed  4.10 Dana  - Post Roadrunner - Orig code 999 Petty Blue --  HD  15x8 steel wheels -- Air Grabber -- show car paint code

moparstuart

Quote from: 70PETTYROADRUNNER on January 22, 2011, 10:19:48 PM
I have a  70  440-6  4 speed  4.10 Dana  - Post Roadrunner - Orig code 999 Petty Blue --  HD  15x8 steel wheels -- Air Grabber -- show car paint code
pictures please   :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: 
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

tan top

Quote from: moparstuart on January 23, 2011, 07:39:30 AM
Quote from: 70PETTYROADRUNNER on January 22, 2011, 10:19:48 PM
I have a  70  440-6  4 speed  4.10 Dana  - Post Roadrunner - Orig code 999 Petty Blue --  HD  15x8 steel wheels -- Air Grabber -- show car paint code
pictures please   :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: 

:yesnod:
sounds like an awesome piece of mopar hardware !! would love to see pictures sometime :popcrn:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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doctordodge

I too have a early Petty Blue car. It is a '68 roadrunner 383 4speed post car. Many myths are circulating about these cars. I would like to hear from anyone owning one or knows about them. Mine sat for some years and shows it but they are a rarity for sure.

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

68X426

Quote from: nascarxx29 on June 07, 2013, 06:36:34 PM
http://collectorcarpricetracker.com/auctions/detail/271007403751/

That auction is from a previous owner (2 owners back). The new owner (doctor dodge) is John in Canada.

I've spoken with him, and two former owners (Les and Andy). Everyone who has a 999 Road Runner (me too) are always hoping for some documentable history on these rarities.

I know of 5 existing 1968 Petty Blue (999) Road Runners, 4 are from St. Louis and one from LA. I have talked with two other owners, I own one, and have credible evidence on two cars (but not the owners or location).

Anyone out there know anyone?








The 12 Scariest Words in the English Language:
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We Want to Help You.

1968 Plymouth Road Runner, Hemi and much more
2013 Dodge Challenger RT, Hemi, Plum Crazy
2014 Ram 4x4 Hemi, Deep Cherry Pearl
1968 Dodge Charger, 318, not much else
1958 Dodge Pick Up, 383, loud
1966 Dodge Van, /6, slow

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

I had this Oct car craft mag mentioned .It had a 68 RR with superbird type plymouths 1/4 decals a unusual trunk spoiler.It might had more detail on 68 petty road runners

Petty Blue 68 Road Runner looking like a race car. This was the brainchild of the Chrysler ad agency, Young & Rubicam, and was thought to be marketed in 1969 as a "Petty Special". Petty Blue, huge "Plymouth" logos on the quarters like Superbirds would later have, Hemi, 4-sp, black interior and black steel wheels etc etc. Unfortunately Petty went to Ford in '69 and the project was scrapped. Before this book I had only heard the car mentioned one time before, in a 3 page article in the October 1985 issue of Car Craft magazine. Needless to say, it made an impression...
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

68X426

Quote from: nascarxx29 on June 07, 2013, 07:02:30 PM
Found the old auction seems 75 or so made

http://media.collectorcarpricetracker.com/auction_data/2012/7/1/271007403751/271007403751.pdf

That claim of 75 was made up by the seller Andy in Miami, who bought the car to flip in 2012.

The next previous owner Les, and I, worked on building data and history, including contact with Petty Enterprises and Govier. We didn't hardly get any help. But we are reasonable certain of the figure 10 built. Andy said he just made up the 75 because it sounded good for the ad.  :rotz:


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The 12 Scariest Words in the English Language:
We are Here from The Government and
We Want to Help You.

1968 Plymouth Road Runner, Hemi and much more
2013 Dodge Challenger RT, Hemi, Plum Crazy
2014 Ram 4x4 Hemi, Deep Cherry Pearl
1968 Dodge Charger, 318, not much else
1958 Dodge Pick Up, 383, loud
1966 Dodge Van, /6, slow

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

68X426

Quote from: nascarxx29 on June 08, 2013, 12:43:16 PM
Anyone else heard of this cars existence

http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?18650-1970-V-code-1-of-1-Super-track-pack-petty-blue-road-runner/page2

Oh yes, drmopar. Interesting discussion back two years ago at FBBO (April 2011). He was selling a 1 of 1 Road Runner.

It's a '70 RR with a 999 fender tag. He absolutely insisted it was Petty Blue originally (now Sublime Green). Most everyone accepted it as so. He was rather pissed when a couple folks seriously questioned it, but it was mostly and reasonable accepted as a 1 of 1 Petty Blue. I thought he had a solid case based on the build sheets, strong data from the Winged Warriors site and Brennan Cook's site, and his statements that he saw blue in hidden locations. No pictures were ever posted though.

Problem is that he put up the very same car up for sale again in July 2011 and declared it to be an original 999 factory code that was Platinum Silver. He presents it now as a 999 silver car, re-painted Sublime. Not Petty Blue and repainted.

Very big problem to have the car go from Petty Blue to Platinum Silver in 3 months.

It looked to be a great car, no matter the original color. He wanted $59k. I don't know if it ever sold. He was active with listing numerous Road Runners for sale thru summer of 2012, then no more posts.

He never pursued the 999 matter at FBBO. Would seem that he was color blind, AND couldn't find a camera to use. The story changing destroyed any credibility. So the car isn't a Petty Blue RR.





 


The 12 Scariest Words in the English Language:
We are Here from The Government and
We Want to Help You.

1968 Plymouth Road Runner, Hemi and much more
2013 Dodge Challenger RT, Hemi, Plum Crazy
2014 Ram 4x4 Hemi, Deep Cherry Pearl
1968 Dodge Charger, 318, not much else
1958 Dodge Pick Up, 383, loud
1966 Dodge Van, /6, slow

69CoronetRT

Quote from: nascarxx29 on June 08, 2013, 12:43:16 PM

Problem is that he put up the very same car up for sale again in July 2011 and declared it to be an original 999 factory code that was Platinum Silver. He presents it now as a 999 silver car, re-painted Sublime. Not Petty Blue and repainted.

That's very possible. A4 was not carried over as a color for 1970 B bodies. I have seen a STL built 70 GTX that codes 999 (meaning "color not available as a standard color") but was documented as A4. I did not see the GTX BS to see what the color code was.

Either way, the car in question IS a cool and desirable car.  It would be nice to know the original color. Confusion over 99/999 paint codes is common.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

WINGIN IT

Taking the car down to its shell will likely be the best way to prove what the original color was  :Twocents:


69hemidaytona

Roger Gibson restored a Daytona for Tim Wellborn with a 99 paint code. It was what Roger called "Race Hemi Orange" which I believe was the same as Omaha Orange.

FJ5WING

Quote from: 69hemidaytona on June 11, 2013, 04:09:38 AM
Roger Gibson restored a Daytona for Tim Wellborn with a 99 paint code. It was what Roger called "Race Hemi Orange" which I believe was the same as Omaha Orange.


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