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Well, the crash tests of a Charger and other Chryslers.....

Started by Polygon, June 07, 2013, 02:25:49 AM

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Very cool!, I wonder how fast that Charger was going before it hit the wall  :scratchchin:
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tan top

 :o  wow Awesome find Polygon   , thanks for posting  :cheers: :cheers:

that solves the mystery of the crash test charger  ** 475 * !!  going by this video , looks like it was a Hemi car  , maybe  ;)     :o :icon_smile_blackeye:

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I read somewhere it was 100 mph or something like that. It sure crumpled it up.
On the video, the drive shaft breaks.....some force.
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1974dodgecharger

These cars are so UNSAFE might need to report to nhsta.....recall?

Tilar

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GOTWING

would it be cool to find this crashed car in untouched condition kept in a wharehouse all these years? imagine the attention it would get on display at the nats or Carlisle! brand new condition just crumpled up into a ball.  :D

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Mytur Binsdirti

Quote from: Tilar on June 07, 2013, 04:50:19 AM
Did they all get resonators? That one has them.

Only Hemi cars got resonators. With the exption of no door emblems, it sure looks like a Hemi car, but then again, the emblem between the tail lights and roof emblem are also missing. Could this be the famed XP car?

On a related note, to be original, looks like I have to paint my gas tank orange and #475 on my rear end, mufflers, gas tank & tail stripe.   :2thumbs:


Edit: After looking at the video, I don't see the K-frame wedge hanging down either.

Cooter

What? All this crashing of Chargers, and No 01's on the doors? The Horror. To think that Chrysler destroyed so many Chargers.  :rotz:
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Baldwinvette77

Quote from: Cooter on June 07, 2013, 06:25:22 AM
What? All this crashing of Chargers, and No 01's on the doors? The Horror. To think that Chrysler destroyed so many Chargers.  :rotz:

had a Doh style radio antenna on the deck  :lol:

Cooter

Quote from: Baldwinvette77 on June 07, 2013, 06:36:07 AM
Quote from: Cooter on June 07, 2013, 06:25:22 AM
What? All this crashing of Chargers, and No 01's on the doors? The Horror. To think that Chrysler destroyed so many Chargers.  :rotz:

had a Doh style radio antenna on the deck  :lol:

Well, at least there was some 'Orange' paint to make the destruction of all these Cahrgers seem 'legit'...
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TPR

Great find, never seen that before. Hate to think how passengers would fare in a crash like that.
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mightywing7

This is a new video for me.....great find!!  :2thumbs: 

Can you guys tell if there was even an engine in the car during the crash test?   :shruggy:  The car collapsed like an accordion and I couldn't tell if a motor can be seen in the photos.
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Quote from: TPR on June 07, 2013, 08:53:11 AM
Hate to think how passengers would fare in a crash like that.



I'm sure that their worries would be no more.

wingcar

Quote from: Baldwinvette77 on June 07, 2013, 06:14:30 AM
note to self: install a roll cage  :faint:

Note to self:  Do not crash into a soild wall at 100 mph (bad on the paint)       :icon_smile_blackeye:
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I guess the lap belt is only to keep you centered on the stearing wheel.  That way whoever cleans up the mess knows where to look for you. :-\

Tilar

Quote from: mightywing7 on June 07, 2013, 01:59:12 PM
This is a new video for me.....great find!!  :2thumbs: 

Can you guys tell if there was even an engine in the car during the crash test?   :shruggy:  The car collapsed like an accordion and I couldn't tell if a motor can be seen in the photos.

Haven't spotted the engine yet but I do see the tranny.
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Homerr

Quote from: wingcar on June 07, 2013, 03:40:32 PM
Quote from: Baldwinvette77 on June 07, 2013, 06:14:30 AM
note to self: install a roll cage  :faint:

Note to self:  Do not crash into a soild wall at 100 mph (bad on the paint)       :icon_smile_blackeye:


Doesn't have to be 100/0 (100mph into 0mph wall)
Could be 50/50
Could be 30/70

ws23rt

Paintless dent repair is likely out. Going to have to add paint to the repair.
I wonder if an engine was in the car? Must have been or the test would not be a real deal test.

70moparman


70moparman

Looks like it has R/T on the tail stripe... You have to look for it hard, because its moving fast and hard to see...

Cooter

That's why Tantop or whoever posted the pics. Can clearly see the tail stripe in every frame.

Shame. All those Chrysler execs. Destroying all those Chargers and for what? So a few could study the effects of safety?  :D
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A383Wing

Quote from: mightywing7 on June 07, 2013, 01:59:12 PM

Can you guys tell if there was even an engine in the car during the crash test?   :shruggy:  The car collapsed like an accordion and I couldn't tell if a motor can be seen in the photos.

the drive shaft broke...it had to be connected to something front & rear...

mrc122970


Baldwinvette77

Quote from: Homerr on June 07, 2013, 08:03:37 PM
Quote from: wingcar on June 07, 2013, 03:40:32 PM
Quote from: Baldwinvette77 on June 07, 2013, 06:14:30 AM
note to self: install a roll cage  :faint:

Note to self:  Do not crash into a soild wall at 100 mph (bad on the paint)       :icon_smile_blackeye:


Doesn't have to be 100/0 (100mph into 0mph wall)
Could be 50/50
Could be 30/70

i think i read somewhere else that this car was crashed at 100 mph  :scratchchin:

it showed images of the black and white profile pics.


ws23rt

Pic # 10 looks like a 4sp trans case. But could be auto with bell hsg. broke off. Would be nice to know if it was just pulled off the assembly line or pieced together for the test.

A383Wing

Quote from: mrc122970 on June 08, 2013, 07:40:56 PM
8 3/4 rear end, would've been a dana 60 with Hemi??

could have been a 440....unless it was an automatic Hemi car

Bryan

tan top

 was mentioned in another thread about the  bronze XP hemi car & the other Bronze chargers with white tops in  promo pictures etc ,

perhaps its  all one in the same car , that just built it up in different configurations to see whats what with different options & how it went together  :shruggy: , before the production run started :scratchchin:

:popcrn:  

the charger in the crash test #475  rightly  MTD pointed out the K frame deal ,  doubt they would of driven a hemi into a wall  , would they  :o :scratchchin:, could of easily swapped out the Hemi with its K frame  , for a wedge set up  maybe  :shruggy:
475 , bronze with a white top ,  has rear torque boxes , &  resonators , also an 8 & three quarter rear , the  infamous  bronze XP hemi car  ,  had whats looks to be Hemi trans cooler lines & the brass connector in one picture  :scratchchin:  & Hemi autos came standard with a 8 3/4 rear  ,  i'm just throwing a few ideas & scenarios out there , pure guesses  :scratchchin:
doubt we will ever know  , unless any records surface as to  what on back then , the amount of data they must of loged & pictures etc , wonder where its all at ,  don't say that went up in flames like all the 68 & up vin number record  information etc that supposed to have done !!!   or any old time chrysler guys , can remember what went on ,  find it starage  how popular   mopar muscle cars are  & the loyal following  , its a wonder   more old time chrysler guys have not come out & spoke about what went on , i realise lots of these guys , who are still around are getting on in their years now , but even in the early 1980s , i'm sure their would of been just as much interest in what they had to say , just as much as it would be today ,  think i'm getting a bit carred away & straying off topic
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Quote from: tan top on June 09, 2013, 06:44:53 AM
was mentioned in another thread about the  bronze XP hemi car & the other Bronze chargers with white tops in  promo pictures etc ,

perhaps its  all one in the same car , that just built it up in different configurations to see whats what with different options & how it went together  :shruggy: , before the production run started :scratchchin:

:popcrn:  

the charger in the crash test #475  rightly  MTD pointed out the K frame deal ,  doubt they would of driven a hemi into a wall  , would they  :o :scratchchin:, could of easily swapped out the Hemi with its K frame  , for a wedge set up  maybe  :shruggy:
475 , bronze with a white top ,  has rear torque boxes , &  resonators , also an 8 & three quarter rear , the  infamous  bronze XP hemi car  ,  had whats looks to be Hemi trans cooler lines & the brass connector in one picture  :scratchchin:  & Hemi autos came standard with a 8 3/4 rear  ,  i'm just throwing a few ideas & scenarios out there , pure guesses  :scratchchin:
doubt we will ever know  , unless any records surface as to  what on back then , the amount of data they must of loged & pictures etc , wonder where its all at ,  don't say that went up in flames like all the 68 & up vin number record  information etc that supposed to have done !!!   or any old time chrysler guys , can remember what went on ,  find it starage  how popular   mopar muscle cars are  & the loyal following  , its a wonder   more old time chrysler guys have not come out & spoke about what went on , i realise lots of these guys , who are still around are getting on in their years now , but even in the early 1980s , i'm sure their would of been just as much interest in what they had to say , just as much as it would be today ,  think i'm getting a bit carred away & straying off topic

im not sure what it was like then, but from a man i spoke to from a research facility they crash the heaviest version of a car, as a worst case scenario thing. if a car is available in both a 4 cylinder and a v8 configuration, the v8 would be chosen since its heavier, with that said, wasnt the hemi with an auto the heaviest version available?  :shruggy:

MoParJW

Quote from: GPULLER on June 09, 2013, 10:14:56 AM
What about the 1 gen that gets smashed... :stirthepot:

Charger?  :shruggy:, what about that awesome fourdoor Belvedere/Satellite that got T-boned   :P
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GPULLER

Quote from: Baldwinvette77 on June 09, 2013, 10:16:01 AM
Quote from: GPULLER on June 09, 2013, 10:14:56 AM
What about the 1 gen that gets smashed... :stirthepot:

What about it?  :shruggy:

They don't get much love here so I thought someone would pile on with some smart comment.

tan top

 
Quote from: Baldwinvette77 on June 09, 2013, 04:26:48 PM
Quote from: tan top on June 09, 2013, 06:44:53 AM
was mentioned in another thread about the  bronze XP hemi car & the other Bronze chargers with white tops in  promo pictures etc ,

perhaps its  all one in the same car , that just built it up in different configurations to see whats what with different options & how it went together  :shruggy: , before the production run started :scratchchin:

:popcrn:  

the charger in the crash test #475  rightly  MTD pointed out the K frame deal ,  doubt they would of driven a hemi into a wall  , would they  :o :scratchchin:, could of easily swapped out the Hemi with its K frame  , for a wedge set up  maybe  :shruggy:
475 , bronze with a white top ,  has rear torque boxes , &  resonators , also an 8 & three quarter rear , the  infamous  bronze XP hemi car  ,  had whats looks to be Hemi trans cooler lines & the brass connector in one picture  :scratchchin:  & Hemi autos came standard with a 8 3/4 rear  ,  i'm just throwing a few ideas & scenarios out there , pure guesses  :scratchchin:
doubt we will ever know  , unless any records surface as to  what on back then , the amount of data they must of loged & pictures etc , wonder where its all at ,  don't say that went up in flames like all the 68 & up vin number record  information etc that supposed to have done !!!   or any old time chrysler guys , can remember what went on ,  find it starage  how popular   mopar muscle cars are  & the loyal following  , its a wonder   more old time chrysler guys have not come out & spoke about what went on , i realise lots of these guys , who are still around are getting on in their years now , but even in the early 1980s , i'm sure their would of been just as much interest in what they had to say , just as much as it would be today ,  think i'm getting a bit carred away & straying off topic

im not sure what it was like then, but from a man i spoke to from a research facility they crash the heaviest version of a car, as a worst case scenario thing. if a car is available in both a 4 cylinder and a v8 configuration, the v8 would be chosen since its heavier, with that said, wasnt the hemi with an auto the heaviest version available?  :shruggy:



:cheers:  
yes makes sense , more damage with a heavy car , hemi charger auto heaviest i believe , would like to see curb weights side by side ,   with a loaded 440 auto with air & power steering etc  though :scratchchin:

tried to enlarge the leaf spring shackle area ,  cant see the hemi only reinforcement plates , if  *475 * had them would the shackle move that far rear wards  :shruggy: thinking not  :scratchchin:, but yet as mentioned it has  rear torque boxes  :yesnod:
third picture down , shows reinforcement plate on hemi only cars.
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Quote from: GPULLER on June 09, 2013, 10:14:56 AM
What about the 1 gen that gets smashed... :stirthepot:
Quote from: MoParJW on June 10, 2013, 06:15:19 AM
Quote from: GPULLER on June 09, 2013, 10:14:56 AM
What about the 1 gen that gets smashed... :stirthepot:

Charger?  :shruggy:, what about that awesome fourdoor Belvedere/Satellite that got T-boned   :P

  :yesnod:

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Quote from: tan top on June 10, 2013, 06:17:47 PM
Quote from: GPULLER on June 09, 2013, 10:14:56 AM
What about the 1 gen that gets smashed... :stirthepot:
Quote from: MoParJW on June 10, 2013, 06:15:19 AM
Quote from: GPULLER on June 09, 2013, 10:14:56 AM
What about the 1 gen that gets smashed... :stirthepot:

Charger?  :shruggy:, what about that awesome fourdoor Belvedere/Satellite that got T-boned   :P

  :yesnod:


Damn that would hurt....
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A383Wing

I just noticed the early Charger....dog dish caps were not available in that year(s)

Ghoste

The crash testers likely didn't have option correctness heavy in their thoughts.

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mauve66

Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on June 11, 2013, 02:31:47 PM
Quote from: GPULLER on June 09, 2013, 10:14:56 AM
What about the 1 gen that gets smashed... :stirthepot:


Oh well................


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turban savages.................

Quote from: A383Wing on June 10, 2013, 08:36:12 PM
I just noticed the early Charger....dog dish caps were not available in that year(s)


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