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1970 Charger Let me know what ya think.

Started by Cr@sH24701, May 29, 2013, 02:54:38 PM

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Cr@sH24701

 I'm looking for a few opinions on a trade. I have a 1973 Roadrunner Clone and working on a trade for a 1970 Dodge Charger R/T SE. The Charger is in ROUGH shape!!!!! But i believe can be brought back to life. So here is the trade agreement my car for his and my 383 parts which is everything for a 383 except the block.As he will give a pair of 14in vectors for that. He does have the back glass but no interior at all. Yet my car is complete and has a Fl title but I'm in WV as of now so the car has a solid undercarriage all glass is there. I know the value of my car can't match that of a 2nd gen charger so what do ya'll think? curious to hear opinions and have read alot of post on here and was hoping to become part of the Charger family you have... I am new to this Forum but have been learning alot about the 2nd gen Chargers. Anyone in my neck of the woods? So i'm going to try to post pics of the two cars.
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

Cr@sH24701

"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

skip68

skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!


skip68

Is the charger a real R/T?   Hows the frame rails?   I say trade.    :2thumbs:
skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!


Cr@sH24701

Yea that is what he told me no Title but get a bill of sale and is willing to bring the car to me from SC and pick mine up. And thanks skip it's nice to be here. Trying to load the RR pics but file is to large :(
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

nvrbdn

welcome to the site. just resize the pics. then you may have to rename them also to get em to fly. they need to be smaller here. and im liking the 70 RT also :2thumbs:
70 Dodge Charger 500
70 Duster (Moulin Rouge)
73 Challenger
50 Dodge Pilot House

tan top


hello & welcome   :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :yesnod: :2thumbs:

Quote from: skip68 on May 29, 2013, 03:06:36 PM
Is the charger a real R/T?   Hows the frame rails?   I say trade.    :2thumbs:

what chuckie says  :yesnod: :iagree: 
have you got pictures of fender tag  , vin plate on dash  , & the two sequential vin stampings on the body ? one is core support other is driver side trunk gutter under the weather strip  :yesnod:  see if every thing matches !!
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Cr@sH24701

"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

Cr@sH24701

As for the VIN still waiting on reply from the guy in SC but he wants my car to make a daisy RR clone. said he already had a roscoe and general car
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

moparstuart

its worth the trade to get a 70 RT/SE  ,  just dont turn it into a Genny Lee    :icon_smile_big:
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Cr@sH24701

the rough side lol
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

Cr@sH24701

Well stuart i know alot of people feel certain ways about the GL topic trust me read alot lol. But will say i prefer a 69 body as for the gl aspect it's only paint and decals. When i get this car i might try and trade for a 69 R/T car so i don't kill the value and make alot of mopar guys already hate me :( i mean i just got here :P
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

Cr@sH24701

"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

Cr@sH24701

"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

nvrbdn

is there a hood? dash and steering column?
70 Dodge Charger 500
70 Duster (Moulin Rouge)
73 Challenger
50 Dodge Pilot House

Cr@sH24701

told ya it is rough
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

Cr@sH24701

 hmmm slightly bare
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

Cr@sH24701

"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

nvrbdn

the 69 hood is good for trade, wont work with the 70 set up. you would have to swap out the front clip.
70 Dodge Charger 500
70 Duster (Moulin Rouge)
73 Challenger
50 Dodge Pilot House

Cr@sH24701

Yeah i'm not sure what i want to do just yet  :brickwall:
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

nvrbdn

either way, its your car, so have fun with it. whatever you chose to do :yesnod:
70 Dodge Charger 500
70 Duster (Moulin Rouge)
73 Challenger
50 Dodge Pilot House

Cr@sH24701

Thanks man!! I'm sure i will be on here soon enough asking hos this part does this and ways to pull apart things and all of the above  :cheers:
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

Cr@sH24701

i don't see a R/T badge on the grill though  :shruggy:
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

tan top

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Cr@sH24701

"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

Daytona R/T SE

No title for the Charger?

In the past that wasn't a big deal, but now a lot of states are cracking down on the "no title" thing.

It may be difficult or impossible to get one now. :scratchchin:



I'd keep the Plymouth. :Twocents:

Budnicks

"fill your library before you fill your garage"   Budnicks

Cr@sH24701

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on May 29, 2013, 04:59:53 PM
No title for the Charger?

In the past that wasn't a big deal, but now a lot of states are cracking down on the "no title" thing.

It may be difficult or impossible to get one now. :scratchchin:



I'd keep the Plymouth. :Twocents:
think it will be that hard? Going to have the guy go to the bank with me to have the bill of sale notarized. That should help right?
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

ws23rt

Seeing your pictures adds to my regret that I gave up on one in better shape several years ago. It was even the same color. I don't have any body parts from it but do have many misc items. For example gauge cluster. Look in parts for sale. If you want me to hold on to it for you I will.

Daytona R/T SE

Quote from: Cr@sH24701 on May 29, 2013, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on May 29, 2013, 04:59:53 PM
No title for the Charger?

In the past that wasn't a big deal, but now a lot of states are cracking down on the "no title" thing.

It may be difficult or impossible to get one now. :scratchchin:



I'd keep the Plymouth. :Twocents:
think it will be that hard? Going to have the guy go to the bank with me to have the bill of sale notarized. That should help right?

Get the title straightened out before you do anything else.

A notarized nothing is still nothing.

He has no proof of ownership at this point.

Is it even his to sell/trade?

Cr@sH24701

Quote from: ws23rt on May 29, 2013, 05:09:06 PM
Seeing your pictures adds to my regret that I gave up on one in better shape several years ago. It was even the same color. I don't have any body parts from it but do have many misc items. For example gauge cluster. Look in parts for sale. If you want me to hold on to it for you I will.

Thanks i'll keep ya in mind not going to do anything till i get the car in my driveway incase. Ya know?
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

Cr@sH24701

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on May 29, 2013, 05:10:22 PM
Quote from: Cr@sH24701 on May 29, 2013, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on May 29, 2013, 04:59:53 PM
No title for the Charger?

In the past that wasn't a big deal, but now a lot of states are cracking down on the "no title" thing.

It may be difficult or impossible to get one now. :scratchchin:



I'd keep the Plymouth. :Twocents:


think it will be that hard? Going to have the guy go to the bank with me to have the bill of sale notarized. That should help right?

Get the title straightened out before you do anything else.

A notarized nothing is still nothing.

He has no proof of ownership at this point.

Is it even his to sell/trade?

I'll dig a little more. And i know what ya mean
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

Cr@sH24701

 the interior of the RR Clone
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

skip68

Can you do the work yourself?  Welding, cutting and so on.... That car will need a lot of work and money put in it.  Oh, the rearend is a 8 3/4. 
skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!


Cr@sH24701

Quote from: skip68 on May 29, 2013, 05:21:26 PM
Can you do the work yourself?  Welding, cutting and so on.... That car will need a lot of work and money put in it.  Oh, the rearend is a 8 3/4. 

I have a friend that can help with the welding aspect. I have done body work here and there so sanding,priming and cutting is no biggie then panel replacement will figure afterwards
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

kab69440

That condition + no title = parts pile. Keep what you've got. If he can get a title and transfer it to you, fine. If not, heck no.
Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not;  a sense of humor to console him for what he is.      Francis Bacon

WANT TO BUY:
Looking for a CD by  'The Sub-Mersians'  entitled "Raw Love Songs From My Garage To Your Bedroom"

Also, any of the various surf-revival compilation albums this band has contributed to.
Thank you,    Kenny

Jesus drove a Honda. He wasn't proud of it, though...
John 12: 49     "...for I did not speak of my own Accord."

70 sublime

I am kind of with the no trade crowd
The other guy would be getting the best part of the deal
There is alot of $$ worth of stuff missing that you will have to get from somewhere
You add that up plus what you could have sold your black car for would let you buy a better car to start with
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

ws23rt

Quote from: 70 sublime on May 29, 2013, 06:31:01 PM
I am kind of with the no trade crowd
The other guy would be getting the best part of the deal
There is alot of $$ worth of stuff missing that you will have to get from somewhere
You add that up plus what you could have sold your black car for would let you buy a better car to start with

I tend to be here as well. But if your passion is for this car you will get much from the adventure. You will learn a lot and get satisfaction in return. This hobby is more than keeping track of money spent. Other threads speak to this. And when it is done another car will be with us for those that follow.

Cr@sH24701

Well put guys i will look into him getting a title. And guess i'll keep looking for a 69  :scratchchin:
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

Cr@sH24701

Quote from: ws23rt on May 29, 2013, 06:44:47 PM
Quote from: 70 sublime on May 29, 2013, 06:31:01 PM
I am kind of with the no trade crowd
The other guy would be getting the best part of the deal
There is alot of $$ worth of stuff missing that you will have to get from somewhere
You add that up plus what you could have sold your black car for would let you buy a better car to start with

I tend to be here as well. But if your passion is for this car you will get much from the adventure. You will learn a lot and get satisfaction in return. This hobby is more than keeping track of money spent. Other threads speak to this. And when it is done another car will be with us for those that follow.

If the guy can come up with a title then i will go with it. I have waited 25 or more years whats a few more!
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

ws23rt


Cr@sH24701

Yeah i'll be 33 in nov and loved the Charger ever since my first episode of DOH. I think i was about 8 or so.
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

kab69440

Quote from: Cr@sH24701 on May 29, 2013, 06:47:47 PM


If the guy can come up with a title then i will go with it. I have waited 25 or more years whats a few more!

From a guy who bought a parts pile farther gone than that and has had it in process for that long, find a better car. Now, what does he want for the fenders?
Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not;  a sense of humor to console him for what he is.      Francis Bacon

WANT TO BUY:
Looking for a CD by  'The Sub-Mersians'  entitled "Raw Love Songs From My Garage To Your Bedroom"

Also, any of the various surf-revival compilation albums this band has contributed to.
Thank you,    Kenny

Jesus drove a Honda. He wasn't proud of it, though...
John 12: 49     "...for I did not speak of my own Accord."

Cr@sH24701

Quote from: kab69440 on May 29, 2013, 07:11:35 PM
Quote from: Cr@sH24701 on May 29, 2013, 06:47:47 PM


If the guy can come up with a title then i will go with it. I have waited 25 or more years whats a few more!

From a guy who bought a parts pile farther gone than that and has had it in process for that long, find a better car. Now, what does he want for the fenders?

Don't think he is parting it out.
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

Tilar

Man that thing looks like it's been rode hard and put up wet.  :eek2:   I'd look for one in a little better shape.
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



fy469rtse

I would ask him about the bonnet or hood for car , vin tag should still be on that dash frame, close up on that front shot, see if its still there, fender tag also and do those numbers match boot rail and radiator support, I would keep it as an rt , what color was it originally, its been every color since, if rails are good it look worse than it is, front valance is there, it will save a lot of time pulling it apart for metal restoration work, RR in good shape  would not do a straight swap cash from him , and I bet there is parts to thing all over that farm, I bet the engine is there somewhere

Kern Dog

Since I own one, I am really a big fan of the 70 model. One of the bad things about these cars is that there are many, many ONE YEAR parts on these cars. That grille? If you can find one for sale, you'll shell out some serious cash. Most of the interior can be cobbled together from 68-70 models if originality isn't a problem, but there are a LOT of parts missing there. That stuff will add up QUICK! Engine/trans/suspension stuff is the easy part. Quarter panels, trunk floor, rear window channel rust repair.
I hope that you are dedicated.

bull

Well, are you good at welding and buying AMD stuff? Those two will go hand in hand with this one. :yesnod:

I'd be wary of the title thing too myself. 10 years ago it was getting pretty strict so I can imagine today is much worse. Still, Congress is working on giving citizenship to every Mexican that feels like walking north so laws don't mean much anymore apparently.

cdr

LINK TO MY STORY http://www.onallcylinders.com/2015/11/16/ride-shares-charlie-keel-battles-cancer-ms-to-build-brilliant-1968-dodge-charger/  
                                                                                           
68 Charger 512 cid,9.7to1,Hilborn EFI,Home ported 440 source heads,small hyd roller cam,COLD A/C ,,a518 trans,Dana 60 ,4.10 gear,10.93 et,4100lbs on street tires full exhaust daily driver
Charger55 by Charlie Keel, on Flickr

ACUDANUT

Quote from: Tilar on May 29, 2013, 07:56:28 PM
Man that thing looks like it's been rode hard and put up wet.  :eek2:   I'd look for one in a little better shape.

Yea, my thought too. Find another Charger. That thing will kill you financially.

Cr@sH24701

I talked to the guy and he is going to send pics of 2 68's he has and might go that route instead. I'll keep ya'll posted as i know what is going on. And of course have more pics. I know how much ya'll like pics lol :2thumbs:

As for the that that 69 nice job cdr!

We have a mopar bone yard here called the Car Farm and he has a few Chargers out there.As far as I know AMD is going to be my new bestest buddy!
I can throw about a 100 dollar bill at it once a week so things should move decently fast.
Don't know how to weld :eek2:
But do have experience in body work
My fiance wants me to let ya'll know that when it is done. Were gettin hitched!!!!  :slap:
:rofl:
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

JB400

Fix the car first when you get it, then get married.


              Congrats on the nuptials.  Hope it's a long lasting marriage. :cheers:

Cr@sH24701

Quote from: stroker400 wedge on May 30, 2013, 01:35:48 AM
Fix the car first when you get it, then get married.


              Congrats on the nuptials.  Hope it's a long lasting marriage. :cheers:
Thanks stroker. That's what i meant after the car is done. lol
Told her i wanted a general for the honeymoon and etc. :2thumbs:
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

ACUDANUT

If I had that deadline, I would take about 10 years to finish the car.

nvrbdn

 :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:






                                  me too :yesnod:
70 Dodge Charger 500
70 Duster (Moulin Rouge)
73 Challenger
50 Dodge Pilot House

charger_fan_4ever

Quote from: Cr@sH24701 on May 29, 2013, 10:34:03 PM
I talked to the guy and he is going to send pics of 2 68's he has and might go that route instead. I'll keep ya'll posted as i know what is going on. And of course have more pics. I know how much ya'll like pics lol :2thumbs:

As for the that that 69 nice job cdr!

We have a mopar bone yard here called the Car Farm and he has a few Chargers out there.As far as I know AMD is going to be my new bestest buddy!
I can throw about a 100 dollar bill at it once a week so things should move decently fast.
Don't know how to weld :eek2:
But do have experience in body work
My fiance wants me to let ya'll know that when it is done. Were gettin hitched!!!!  :slap:
:rofl:

My 70 R/T was about the same shape. I have bought close to 10k ALONE in metal. AMD and rust free stuff. Had extremely good rates on the metal work from my brothers shop. My $5k project car i have over $20k in it with the new interior and all the metal work done and it has been 5 years. I will have around $35k in it, but will be better than new.

Like mentioned before lots of 1 year only parts on the 70. No front clip in repro is a killer. Doing it again I probably would have got a 68-9 just for the ease of restoration parts.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,71829.0.html

If I had to pay out $50 plus an hour I'd have lost my shirt long ago.

$10k project car that is solid will save you lots in the end over a rusty $5k project.

Cr@sH24701

  I hear ya on that charger_fan_4ever. I'm going to see how those two 68's look. But most likely i will convert to a 69. Most problems i have seen on a 2nd gen Charger is the rear quarters and trunk pan so if i have to replace might as well go with 69.     :cheers:
"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"

Tilar

Quote from: ACUDANUT on May 30, 2013, 10:22:58 AM
If I had that deadline, I would take about 10 years to finish the car.

You're kinda rushing it a bit, aint ya?     :smilielol:
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



wingcar

Pass on the '70...................unless you are looking for a "major" project (major = lots of time and big money)  Look for something that's at least complete, if possible.   :Twocents:
1970 Daytona Charger SE "clone" (440/Auto)
1967 Charger (360,6-pak/Auto)
2008 Challenger SRT8 BLK (6.1/Auto) 6050 of 6400

spoolinhard


Cr@sH24701

"!It takes a mopar to catch a mopar!"