Ford Ecoboost issues??

[odcics2]

 Ford owners sue, saying EcoBoost engine defective

Three Ohio drivers are suing Ford Motor Co., claiming the company's six-cylinder EcoBoost engine is defective., the Associated Press reported.

The lawsuit says the 3.5-liter V6 EcoBoost engine can shudder, shake and then rapidly lose power while drivers are accelerating, the story said. Two of the plaintiffs, a married couple, say their 2010 Ford Taurus SHO has lost power and stalled on multiple occasions and a third says he has lost power when he was accelerating in his F-150 pickup, the AP said.

The lawsuit says more than 100 drivers have complained to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration about the V-6 EcoBoost rattling or losing power, the report said. Ford hasn't recalled any vehicles for the alleged defect, and NHTSA hasn't opened an investigation, which is often the first step in the recall process. The lawsuit claims Ford has acknowledged the problem in messages to dealers, but hasn't informed owners, the article said. (Associated Press)

[Green71R/T]

And people wonder why i drive beaters. At least I expect problems.Have very few considering I usually pick them up for scrap.

[69 OUR/TEA]

WTF is ecoboost anyway ?

[Drache]

My brother works at Ford and they replace at least one a month. All the people at Ford were told to keep quiet about this.

WTF is ecoboost anyway ?

It was supposed to be Ford's miracle engine. Good power with little gas consumption, blah blah blah.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_EcoBoost_engine

[Fred]

My brother works at Ford and they replace at least one a month. All the people at Ford were told to keep quiet about this.

WTF is ecoboost anyway ?

It was supposed to be Ford's miracle engine. Good power with little gas consumption, blah blah blah.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_EcoBoost_engine

We have them here too. Don't know how well they're doing, haven't heard any complaints yet but it's early days.
The Mrs. drives a commodore that is guaranteed to get her from Melbourne to Sydney on one tank of fuel. (800 plus km's) but taking it just to the shops and back is another story altogether. Fat lot of good.  I wish we bought the V8 instead.

[JB400]

I bet it's a weak blowout valve.

[GOTWING]

i just had a feeling about this new engine...

[Cooter]

I called this one like I called those new Diesels. No small engine will make that kind of power and efficiency for very long.


Again Ford, Like with your 6.0 Diesels, Good one

[odcics2]

WTF is ecoboost anyway ?

gas direct injected turbo.

[redmist]

Nothing is wrong with the engine, it's an inter-cooler issue. The ports for the inter-cooler are mounted high instead of low. This allows condensation to form in the bottom of the tank. When fast acceleration is needed, the added boost picks up the pooled water, and the motor eats it up. This causes the engine to shudder, and it throws codes.

Almost all of the issues are happening in high humidity climates. this is not an issue that is native to ford, many other turbo charged engines suffer from this.

I simple inter-cooler replacement fixes the issue, but ford is not just fixing all of them as it is such a rare issue on one half of the United States.

The Ecoboost is an AWESOME ENGINE!

Duramax's do it:  http://www.duramaxforum.com/forum/01-04-5-lb7-duramax-powertrain/15309-water-intercooler-pipe.html

VW's have been doing it forever:  http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5574701-TDI-Intercooler-Issue-Design-Flaw

So if Ford would fix the issue it would be great!

[ACUDANUT]

3 people complain (Two of the plaintiffs, a married couple) Does not account for the Millions that have no issues. Cooter eat dirt or go support the Japs and buy another Subaru, I don't care.

[redmist]

A simple fix would be for ford to but the blow off valve on the bottom of the tank. This would vent excess water each time a person lets off the throttle and an overboost condition is vented to atmosphere.

Or just stop driving your truck like a pussy, and the water wont accumulate!!   

[1970Moparmann]

Just like anything, a few people complain and perception is it's junk.   Wasn't the engine introduced in 2010?  I would never buy a new car power plant like this the first year. 

Ford is selling 750,000+ a year...WOW.

All I can say is I can't wait to get one.  I have a small 4.6 3V 2010 F150 now, and plan on getting an ecoboost next.  I've beat the crap out of my truck and it has NEVER been in for service.  40k hard miles and ZERO problems.   

[ACUDANUT]

 

[GPULLER]

The ports for the inter-cooler are mounted high instead of low. This allows condensation to form in the bottom of the tank. When fast acceleration is needed, the added boost picks up the pooled water, and the motor eats it up. This causes the engine to shudder, and it throws codes.

Almost all of the issues are happening in high humidity climates. this is not an issue that is native to ford, many other turbo charged engines suffer from this.

Sounds like a cheap water injection method, now if you could mix in some methanol some how..

[Cooter]

Just like anything, a few people complain and perception is it's junk.   Wasn't the engine introduced in 2010?  I would never buy a new car power plant like this the first year. 

Ford is selling 750,000+ a year...WOW.

All I can say is I can't wait to get one.  I have a small 4.6 3V 2010 F150 now, and plan on getting an ecoboost next.  I've beat the crap out of my truck and it has NEVER been in for service.  40k hard miles and ZERO problems.   

Good luck with the tune up (Plugs)..

[Cooter]

Cooter eat dirt or go support the Japs and buy another Subaru, I don't care.

Well now, ain't we just the eppitimy of DC.com with that one...... Way to be positive and helpful there sparky. 

[ACUDANUT]

Are you kidding me ?.  Cooter, your the hater here. I have never seen one positive comment or post out of you.
I don't want to start a pissing match. Buy what you want.

[ws23rt]

Oh oh.. this sounds familiar..---

I just think that poor little engine is doing the best it can to be green. It's not easy.

[Steve P.]

I have been asking everyone I see driving one for their input on the truck and Ecoboost engine.. Here in Florida where we damn sure have a ton of humidity, I have not had 1 complaint. Matter of fact I was told by one lady driver that this truck gets better mileage than her old 4 cylinder/5-speed truck and it was much smaller.. I am guessing it was a ranger or S-10 PU. She didn't say. But her truck was a 150 CREW CAB.

I had no idea she planned to show me it's capabilities or I would have dropped the peddle myself, but that truck left me hard!!!! I did try to catch her with my much heavier F-250 SUPER CREW with a V-10, but she made it through the next light long before I did....

I am still not capable of buying a new truck, but this is damn sure the one of top interest to me..

[Cooter]

Are you kidding me ?.  Cooter, your the hater here. I have never seen one positive comment or post out of you.
I don't want to start a pissing match. Buy what you want.

IF that were truly the case, you wouldn't have said what you did in the other post. You cannot put the sh*t back in the horse killer. I have NEVER Told you to "eat dirt" simply because I didn't agree with, or thought your post MIGHT have a ring or truth. Just because every one of my posts aren't Squeeky clean and Sickening with over enthusiasm, that NO reason to try and portray me as the 'negative Nancy' you seem to think I am.
I didn't open this pandora's box but, I welcome your debate on this matter, or you can leave it alone. Some folks cannot live without the next great thing like this Ecobusted engine. Too soon. This thing will be scattering it's internals soon enough I believe. Give it time to get a f*cking track record before you attempt to shoot down a nay sayer. Afterall, How can ANYONE form an opinion on these things that is positive/neg. without a track record.
Ford tried it with the 6.0 getting NAvistar or whoever to build them a Diesel. Too much from too little. Well, they tried it AGIN, with this little engine. Again, too much from too little IMO. If it's so great, show me one with 500 Miles on it and very little maintenance and I'll eat my hat, and give you 30 min. to draw a croud. Until then, you nor anybody else will EVER convince me that a smaller engine will make this kind of power for very long.

Oh, and just for the record, there are plenty of 'positive' posts from me...


http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,101686.0.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,100171.0.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,101676.0.html

There's more if you haven't gotten the idea.

[1970Moparmann]

Every manufacturer plays the "recall or let it ride" game due to $$$$$$$.   

Dodge did it to me with my 2000 Dakota Pick up.  My wife and I were involved in a bad accident and the airbags didn't go off.  A drunk driver pulled out in front of us while we were going 30 mph.   My truck had $17,000 in damage and no bags... WTF!    People were dying due to this defect which wound up being a defective clock spring in the steering wheel.  In 2003 Chrysler finally sent a recall for this!   Truck was long gone by that point.

This world is ran by lawyers......

[ws23rt]

Talk about fuel economy will go on forever because of several factors. Usually a conversation involves only some of them. There is x amount of energy available in a pound of fuel. If you want to do more stuff with it in a given mile you need more of it. Make a small engine out of unobtianium with air bearings and it will do whatever you ask of it in that mile as long as you give it the fuel it needs. Driving a plywood box uphill will use more fuel than going downhill with a tale wind. I got 35mpg in my srt on a 150mi trip but a lot was due to an elevation drop of 4000ft.

BTW I had a 57 Imperial with a gasoline heater. I got bad fuel economy with the engine off.

[Steve P.]

I think we can cut the arguing..

Cooter, I'm not sure you meant 500 miles. If so I am sure that most if not all of the people I have spoken with that are driving them have got many more than 500 miles on them. One guy I recently spoke with while filling my tank had huge tires on his and it was covered in mud. It seems to me he was putting it through some hell and normally does with the size of the tires. And as he pulled away I could tell he had not done a gear change and was needed. He only complained was about his power steps/running boards.

[skip68]

Wow!   Those are small displacement engines.    I don't see those running 200k or more miles.    I like the idea though but I can see those wearing out faster than traditional motors.   Who knows?    Maybe Ford is on to something.   I think I remember reading something that they had real respectable power numbers.