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mecum - indy spring 2013 results

Started by held1823, May 17, 2013, 08:50:09 PM

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held1823

eleven aero cars in all were at the event.

three wings crossed the block on friday.

the daytona is a bit of a surprise...
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held1823

v-code bird, in a great color
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held1823

beautiful 4-gear bird
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1970Moparmann

Wow, really surprised about the Daytona!
My name is Mike and I'm a Moparholic!

Aero426

The Daytona was offered post block at 92k + buyers fee to a fellow I know, and he passed on it!    Even with the replacement block, I don't know how you go wrong.  

odcics2

Quote from: Aero426 on May 17, 2013, 10:40:50 PM
The Daytona was offered post block at 92k + buyers fee to a fellow I know, and he passed on it!    Even with the replacement block, I don't know how you go wrong.  

Rare but blah color and not numbers matching...   I guess folks with $100,000. to drop are getting picky!    :shruggy:
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Aero426

But Superbirds sold for more?     That makes me go  :shruggy:

odcics2

Quote from: Aero426 on May 18, 2013, 09:58:47 AM
But Superbirds sold for more?     That makes me go  :shruggy:

That is a puzzler....   Must be more to this story than we know, which is just what we've been told!   
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

held1823

what's the vin on the daytona? is there some history that killed its value? i assume it has its steel front end and all, which makes the price all the more baffling.
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Budnicks

I'd like to have any of them... even the Daytona with non matching #'s  :Twocents:
"fill your library before you fill your garage"   Budnicks

Mytur Binsdirti

Is that the car that had the questionable VIN stamping on the radiator support?

pettybird

Quote from: Aero426 on May 18, 2013, 09:58:47 AM
But Superbirds sold for more?     That makes me go  :shruggy:


I always knew we had better taste   :coolgleamA:

boss429kiwi

6 pack superbird, fully restored, no sale @ $100k.
Wow the wing cars are low, compared to others ($125k 70 trans am 455)
Restomods are HOT!
NEW ZEALAND (aka Paradise)
1973 De Tomaso Pantera GTS widebody
1970 Superbird, 6pack, 4 speed, Tor-Red, Buckets, restored by Julius
1970 428 Cobra Jet, 4 speed, calypso Coral, white shaker
1970 Boss 429 KK2457, Concours, Calypso Coral (SOLD)
1957 Chevy truck, big rear window, ocean green, STOCK!.....nice!

Beep Beep Dave

Quote from: Aero426 on May 17, 2013, 10:40:50 PM
The Daytona was offered post block at 92k + buyers fee to a fellow I know, and he passed on it!    Even with the replacement block, I don't know how you go wrong.  

Hey Doug, so after it sold it could have been had for less?
Looks alright in the pics...Y2 is really starting to grow on me on Daytona's.

Dave
 
'69-1/2 SIXPACK/SIXBBL REGISTRY On-Line Registry for the Lift Off Hood cars!!!
Maple Leaf Mopars your Canadian Mopar site.

1970 Charger R/T


Kowal

Evidently, we are reaching Armageddon now, a Chevy Nova goes for $190K!  Granted an L89 motor, but still. 
'69 Hemi Charger 500, '70 U Code Challenger R/T
(These two and a bunch others at www.dkowal426.com)

"P. J. O'Rourke:  The old car ran perfectly, right up until it didn't."

Aero426

Quote from: Beep Beep Dave on May 18, 2013, 09:25:52 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on May 17, 2013, 10:40:50 PM
The Daytona was offered post block at 92k + buyers fee to a fellow I know, and he passed on it!    Even with the replacement block, I don't know how you go wrong.  

Hey Doug, so after it sold it could have been had for less?
Looks alright in the pics...Y2 is really starting to grow on me on Daytona's.

Dave
 

Don't know the timeline of actual events.   I got a "should I buy it?" phone call saying, the bidding had just ended and a ring man wanted to know "do you want it at 92k?"    92k + buyers fee would seem to get you close to 100k disclosed sale.    Anyway, the guy who called me mistakenly thought he was buying the 6-pack Daytona.   Strange there are two Y2 Daytonas there. 

It's not the one with the questionable VIN stamp on the rad support.  Believe that one was an SE.

held1823

four birds cross the block on saturday, but only this one sells
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held1823

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held1823

bird #3
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held1823

saturday's final bird.

the bidding went about 25% higher here, than on the other three cars.
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held1823

Quote from: pettybird on May 18, 2013, 03:40:45 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on May 18, 2013, 09:58:47 AM
But Superbirds sold for more?     That makes me go  :shruggy:


I always knew we had better taste   :coolgleamA:



blondes might draw more attention than brunettes, but which is more desirable....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nehhH9rfnaw
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WINGIN IT

Thanks for posting Held.
Has the other Y2 Daytona crossed the block yet?

Wonder if the bidding would have gone higher if it occurred after the F and F6 movie came out...  :D

held1823

QuoteHas the other Y2 Daytona crossed the block yet?


sunday afternoon, along with the final bird and a c500.
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Aero426

Be interesting how they play up the bogus McCluskey "race car" today.     They were still advertising it as such on-site.   

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701


69_500

I was at the auction on Friday as the first yellow Daytona went through. Bidding stalled at 95k and it was a no sale. Now if it sold after that I do not know. One of the B5 birds was not very nice at all. Nose cone was all out of kilter. Of the Birds the yellow one was by far the nicest. Low mileage da too 25k miles I think. The C500 to me was a bit of a disappointment. Chrome a pillars were repro, and fit like crap. They had three layers of chrome trim at the top of the doors. The Y2 Daytona with dealer installed 6 PAC was odd too. Someone tell me why they had the car reprinted recently? Last time I saw the car it was still wearing original paint and looked just as nice as it did now. Well to me it looked better before the repaint.

held1823

sunday would see one of each mopar aero.

the wingless version
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held1823

the mayflower version.

with an extra 30k worth of decals.
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held1823

the grand poobah version.

realistic price if you ask me. wonder what the owner thinks it's worth.
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held1823

i'm mopar to the core, but this was the most desirable aero car at the event
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WINGIN IT

"I was at the auction on Friday as the first yellow Daytona went through. Bidding stalled at 95k and it was a no sale"

I'm thinking the combo of a non-matching motor, automatic tranny , and unexciting color for most people, brought the price down a bit. 

As for the 6K 6 pack Y2 Daytona, I agree with Held that $155K was good money, again for an automatic Y2 car.


nascarxx29

Aside being one a few documented Y2 6 pack car.The Y2 6 pack daytona 355105 car is listed as James Hytons car

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

WINGIN IT

Ah, must be HIS yellow car then .
Wonder why no mention in the auction listing?
You'd think with 6K miles on it, it would have a known history...  :shruggy:


nascarxx29

Thats his signature color .But I believe the drivers were given a street version daytona Public relations car
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,59810.0.html
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

held1823

does anyone have a list of VIN's for the cars at the event? i'd like to tag the saved photos with the info.

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hemi24

I didn't like the way the yellow Daytona was shown at Mecum right after that junk Elnore mustang sold for million they didn't clear the crowed out just drove the car into them then 30 seconds later it was off the block way to fast i think  only high bid was $65,000 it was total disrespect in my opinion !!!! :flame:

Aero426

Quote from: WINGIN IT on May 20, 2013, 12:19:42 PM
Ah, must be HIS yellow car then .
Wonder why no mention in the auction listing?
You'd think with 6K miles on it, it would have a known history...  :shruggy:

The car has lots of known history.   But I don't believe it was ever documented that Hylton actually received it, or was given it to drive around for a short period.   

odcics2

Quote from: Aero426 on May 20, 2013, 01:13:00 PM
Quote from: WINGIN IT on May 20, 2013, 12:19:42 PM
Ah, must be HIS yellow car then .
Wonder why no mention in the auction listing?
You'd think with 6K miles on it, it would have a known history...  :shruggy:

The car has lots of known history.   But I don't believe it was ever documented that Hylton actually received it, or was given it to drive around for a short period.   

All they had to do was take it to James!     :shruggy:
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

held1823

Quote from: odcics2 on May 20, 2013, 02:42:57 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on May 20, 2013, 01:13:00 PM
Quote from: WINGIN IT on May 20, 2013, 12:19:42 PM
Ah, must be HIS yellow car then .
Wonder why no mention in the auction listing?
You'd think with 6K miles on it, it would have a known history...  :shruggy:

The car has lots of known history.   But I don't believe it was ever documented that Hylton actually received it, or was given it to drive around for a short period.    

All they had to do was take it to James!     :shruggy:

ala the bobby allison verification method used for this earlier mecum gem
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odcics2

But James never had his bell rung like poor Bobby....   
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

69_500

Ernie I took pictures of every one of the aero cars including VIN and fender tag pictures.
There was a letter with the Y2 Daytona stating the original order was for a Hemi car but the 440 one was shipped instead and that was the reason for the dealer added 6 PAC. It was a pretty well loaded car too. Cruise control and power windows.
Also got a picture of the broadcast sheet to the 500 and one of the Daytona's.

WB General Lee

From looking at the results of the auction you can conclude that a nice Superbird matching numbers will bring around the 125K mark. Then you can subtract for condition or non matching from there. The yellow Daytona low mile was at the mark of 150K. I think for a low mile car and in my opinion a nice color and a 6 pack option that was not a bad deal. I would feel comfortable buying that car. The non matching Daytona was at he right number to I feel. I looked at a Superbird the other day because the price was low. It needed more than I wanted to get into but I went because I said if it was decent I can drive it and not worry as much about it.

held1823

one of the no-sale birds from indy found a more enthusiastic crowd at barrett jackson today. the high bid at mecum was 100k; not sure what the gavel price was at BJ, but it looks like the owner's patience paid off
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