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69 318 rods

Started by cowboy4x4n, May 05, 2013, 06:04:51 PM

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cowboy4x4n

guys.  I have the rods out of a 69 block that was in a dodge pickup.  are these rods ok to use for a performance build.  i hear things like light duty and heavy duty rods but not sure what i have.  i believe they are full floating.

Cooter

Most tend to think the 1968-1972 318 engines had the "good" rods. However, with today's aftermarket, a set of Eagle rods should be on any HP build IMO.

If for nothing more than assurance.
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cowboy4x4n

oh id love to buy new rods but the budget im on i am limited. i chose to go with kb 167 pistons and with what i have left I was going to buy arb rod bolts if the factory rods are strong enough. 

cowboy4x4n

does anyone know what factory rods are capable of withstanding hp and tq wise

cowboy4x4n


Cooter

Remember, a 318 making 400 HP= Huge money and very little drivability.

A cheap 440 making 400 HP= Cam, intake,carb, and header swap.....
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

JB400

Quote from: Cooter on May 06, 2013, 06:22:25 AM
Remember, a 318 making 400 HP= Huge money and very little drivability.

A cheap 440 making 400 HP= Cam, intake,carb, and header swap.....
Depends on what the car is for.  Some people look for the 50/50 weight distribution.  440's tip the scale too much one way.  From what I've noticed, 318's  with 2 bbls are quite popular with the Hobby stock guys with  in dirt track racing.  Plentiful and cheap, 300-400 hp is plenty adequate for short tracks.  Pea shooters work fine for some while an Abrams tank is preferred for others.

cowboy4x4n

While a big block is always preferred my question was about the 318 rods.  I do not have the money needed to swap everything in my small block car to stuff a big block.  Everyone is always quick to suggest a big block and the cost to build one vs making a sb more powerful, yet no one factors in new trans radiator and other items needed to convert.

chargd72

Quote from: cowboy4x4n on May 06, 2013, 10:19:28 AM
Everyone is always quick to suggest a big block and the cost to build one vs making a sb more powerful, yet no one factors in new trans radiator and other items needed to convert.

I couldn't agree with this more.  Don't forget the cost of suspension and rear end upgrades.  But I will chime in and suggest going with the stroker.  I run a nicely built 318 and it just needs more cubes.

          '72 Charger SE 4bbl 318                          '76 Power Wagon 400 W200                                 2011 (attempt at a) Charger

Cooter

Just for comparison purposes only here and not to derail more than already is, I have swapped 440's where 318's were for peanuts. It doesn't have to cost all that much all at once. Suspension upgrades are a given on any engine package, especially one with 400 HP where a 230 HP engine was. SB or BB. :Twocents:

But, back to original question, Yes, those rods SHOULD in theory be ok for a 300-400 HP build. However, this is only an estimate, NOT a guarantee.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

cowboy4x4n

Awsome thanks.  I agree the swap can be done in steps but this is a daiky driven car I dont wanna sacrifice safety for cost.  And I have been eye balling striker kits.  Any paticukar kit you recommend

Cooter

Quote from: cowboy4x4n on May 06, 2013, 12:11:01 PM
Awsome thanks.  I agree the swap can be done in steps but this is a daiky driven car I dont wanna sacrifice safety for cost.  And I have been eye balling striker kits.  Any paticukar kit you recommend

For the 318? Some Seem to like the 390 Stroker...
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cowboy4x4n

yeah i figured since i have the block id do a 390 if the price was right.  chargd72.  is there a kit u recommend

chargd72

Quote from: cowboy4x4n on May 06, 2013, 10:09:04 PM
yeah i figured since i have the block id do a 390 if the price was right.  chargd72.  is there a kit u recommend

I haven't built a 390 stroker but I am in the process of building 426 stroker out of a 360 block.  I will be using a kit from Hughes Engines. 

Not the cheapest out there but the rotating assembly is the last thing you want to skimp on if you want a performance engine that lasts.

http://www.hughesengines.com/Index/products.php?browse=category&level0=U21hbGwgQmxvY2siTEEiIDI3MywzMTgsMzQwIGFuZCAzNjAgZW5naW5lcw==&level1=MzE4LzM5MCBTdHJva2VyIEtpdHM=&partid=25284

          '72 Charger SE 4bbl 318                          '76 Power Wagon 400 W200                                 2011 (attempt at a) Charger

Chryco Psycho

I would polish the beams , shot peen them & balance them & run them with new bolts

cowboy4x4n