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Started by Coronet440, April 25, 2013, 05:59:15 AM

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Coronet440

When I decided to purchase my car I started looking all over the internet to really determine a current market value. I just could not find many for sale to compare it against. In your opinions, what is a good price on a nicely restored Daytona in this current market and do you feel values will rise again in the future?? Thanks!!

hemi68charger

Quote from: Coronet440 on April 25, 2013, 05:59:15 AM
When I decided to purchase my car I started looking all over the internet to really determine a current market value. I just could not find many for sale to compare it against. In your opinions, what is a good price on a nicely restored Daytona in this current market and do you feel values will rise again in the future?? Thanks!!

You're sort of asking the wrong people. We're all pretty much jaded individuals. I've been trying to sell mine for nearly 3 years to get another one ( no longer the case now, my V2's a keeper ). There are very few people with the sort of money to buy Daytonas ( nice ones ) to begin with. Then, there are those that love Daytonas but don't have the money. Finally, there are very few of us that have both the money and desire to own one. Not sure what Daisy settled on for your Daytona, but I would be think it is safe to say it isn't what they initially wanted. The market hasn't fully recovered. There's no way in heck I'd let mine go for less than 140K. I did this last time get an offer for 130K but the person eventually bought another one. The economic law of Supply and Demand does play into this. But, not all the "supply" are in the same sort of condition, some people aren't willing or wanting to put their Daytonas through the Mecum/BJ spectacle, etc.... The price will also depend on color combination, engine combination, whether or not is has its original drivetrain, survivor, etc...

Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

Coronet440

Thanks for the input!! It makes perfect sense!!

WINGIN IT

Asking prices are all over the place on these cars, as you must have noticed.
Auction prices vary, and we never know the price sold for private party deals.

That said, a lot what Troy said is true, supply and demand, limited market, and options ( color combo/tranny/engine ) all come in to play.

Hagerty has a new valuation tool based on model.
I entered in a Daytona 440 , and the average price since 2006 ( which would have to be based on public sales / auctions) is $126,306.    They don't say what condition, so without taking all the data points and averaging them,  for arguement's sake say it's an average of all conditions.  Which may not  be a fair comparison .
But you can at least use the graph based on the condition of your car and get an estimate :

http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/HVT/VehicleSearch/Report?vc=433400

Or see attached PDF of historical values .

I think most will feel their car will fall under #2 , ( except for those concourse guys- you know who you are  ;D  )
But I personally would look at an estimate between 2 and 3 to be conservative and use the most recent value as a guide.
So that's between $166K (#2 condition) and $120K (#3 condition) . Average of those 2 is $143K as of Dec 2012 according to the data they provide.  

I would also take the info with a grain of salt, as with most valuation tools .
Note the comments they have for the Charger Model in general:

For base cpe and 500 models: -20% for slant six. For base cpe, 500, and R/T: +15% for SE pkg. For all Chargers: +20% for 4-spd. -10% for auto. Colors can make an astonishing difference in both value and salability.

I definitely agree with their last comment about how colors can make a big difference , not sure about all the other points , but I'm sure it all comes in to play in some way .   :Twocents:

hemi68charger

Quote from: WINGIN IT on April 25, 2013, 09:47:46 AM


I definitely agree with their last comment about how colors can make a big difference , not sure about all the other points , but I'm sure it all comes in to play in some way .   :Twocents:

Ryan, that's why, your Daytona will hold its value tremendously......... I love my V2, it is a GREAT color, but pretty much tied with R4 as the most common Daytona color too (well, there's a reason for that, it IS a great color - Dodge knew what they were doing)  :icon_smile_big:
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

Aero426

Any Daytona that is originally Q5 has a wing up on the competition.

hemi68charger

Quote from: Aero426 on April 25, 2013, 11:50:40 AM
Any Daytona that is originally Q5 has a wing up on the competition.

Ohhhh, that was a good one Dougy   :2thumbs:
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

maxwellwedge

80k if you are buying............200k if you are selling.    :icon_smile_cool:

hemi68charger

Quote from: maxwellwedge on April 25, 2013, 12:08:16 PM
80k if you are buying............200k if you are selling.    :icon_smile_cool:

Jimbo, you're the Donald Trump of Mopar !!!!   :smilielol:
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

maxwellwedge


Aero426

Quote from: maxwellwedge on April 25, 2013, 12:47:08 PM
But with good hair.... :lol:

And he hasn't fired Six Pack Frank. 

Mytur Binsdirti

My Daytona was sold this past January. It was the 3rd one built, matching numbers, 62K miles, 440/automatic, all original body panels, no rust, fresh restoration. It sold for $1_5,000.00 and I think I was lucky to get that.

hemi68charger

Quote from: Aero426 on April 25, 2013, 01:09:52 PM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on April 25, 2013, 12:47:08 PM
But with good hair.... :lol:

And he hasn't fired Six Pack Frank. 

:smilielol:  Hope not !!!!!  Frank has his Muscle Car Stamp Keep-sake............
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

Budnicks

Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on April 25, 2013, 02:18:51 PM
My Daytona was sold this past January. It was the 3rd one built, matching numbers, 62K miles, 440/automatic, all original body panels, no rust, fresh restoration. It sold for $1_5,000.00 and I think I was lucky to get that.
how much is $1_5,000.oo
"fill your library before you fill your garage"   Budnicks

hemi68charger

Quote from: Budnicks on April 25, 2013, 03:42:12 PM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on April 25, 2013, 02:18:51 PM
My Daytona was sold this past January. It was the 3rd one built, matching numbers, 62K miles, 440/automatic, all original body panels, no rust, fresh restoration. It sold for $1_5,000.00 and I think I was lucky to get that.
how much is $1_5,000.oo

Ancient Chinese secret.......
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

Mytur Binsdirti

Quote from: Budnicks on April 25, 2013, 03:42:12 PM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on April 25, 2013, 02:18:51 PM
My Daytona was sold this past January. It was the 3rd one built, matching numbers, 62K miles, 440/automatic, all original body panels, no rust, fresh restoration. It sold for $1_5,000.00 and I think I was lucky to get that.
how much is $1_5,000.oo

What would your guess be?  :popcrn:

WINGIN IT

Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on April 25, 2013, 05:00:56 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on April 25, 2013, 03:42:12 PM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on April 25, 2013, 02:18:51 PM
My Daytona was sold this past January. It was the 3rd one built, matching numbers, 62K miles, 440/automatic, all original body panels, no rust, fresh restoration. It sold for $1_5,000.00 and I think I was lucky to get that.
how much is $1_5,000.oo

What would your guess be?  :popcrn:

Ah, it's fill in the blank right?

I'll say 125K ;)

1970Moparmann

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pettybird

They're all junk and should be crushed to save mother earth.

WINGIN IT


Mytur Binsdirti


WINGIN IT

Hi -Lee, Hi- Lo  - WOOOO WOOO  ! :lol:

held1823

my first thought was a 1...
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Beep Beep Dave

I will go $145k.

The best deals on Daytona's I have seen over the last little while was the R4 4-Speed from York Pa that went down under and the Y2 4-speed that WINGING IT bought.

I would have been happy with either, but didn't act fast enough. Looks like they both got good owners.

Maybe one day everything will align up for me.

Dave 
'69-1/2 SIXPACK/SIXBBL REGISTRY On-Line Registry for the Lift Off Hood cars!!!
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1970 Charger R/T


hemi68charger

Quote from: Beep Beep Dave on April 26, 2013, 11:32:07 AM
I will go $145k.

The best deals on Daytona's I have seen over the last little while was the R4 4-Speed from York Pa that went down under and the Y2 4-speed that WINGING IT bought.

I would have been happy with either, but didn't act fast enough. Looks like they both got good owners.

Maybe one day everything will align up for me.

Dave 

It will...... Have faith.....  :yesnod:
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

Beep Beep Dave

I am not too worried, I think a 4-speed Superbird may be a be more attainable..but there are others I like as well. My name is Dave and I am a Mopar-oh-olic...and I am not looking for a cure :D

I more causually keep an eye out just in case...

Dave
'69-1/2 SIXPACK/SIXBBL REGISTRY On-Line Registry for the Lift Off Hood cars!!!
Maple Leaf Mopars your Canadian Mopar site.

1970 Charger R/T


WINGIN IT

Quote from: Beep Beep Dave on April 26, 2013, 03:04:43 PM
... My name is Dave and I am a Mopar-oh-olic...

Dave

Hi Dave..  :wave:

;D

Any more members want to say hi before we start the MA meeting ( Mopar-holics Anonymous)  :icon_smile_big:

DPL

Hi Dave.

My name is Darren.  I too am a MA.

And WinginIT got the car that was right under my nose.  Seems a good guy though.  Can't wait to see the conclusion of the restoration of that car.

I'm betting $105k
1968 Charger RT
1969 Charger RT
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1970 Super Bee V Code

Mytur Binsdirti


WINGIN IT

Quote from: DPL on April 27, 2013, 02:45:22 PM
Hi Dave.

My name is Darren.  I too am a MA.

And WinginIT got the car that was right under my nose.  Seems a good guy though.  Can't wait to see the conclusion of the restoration of that car.


Hi Darren, and how long have you been a Moparaholic?  :pity:  ;)


I appreciate the kind words though, I consider my self a decent dude, despite my addiction  :yesnod: ;D

WINGIN IT


Speedfreak

Trying to guess what someone sold a car for is a waste of time.  His car is not your car, his buyer is not your buyer, whether the car sold for 50K or 150K, is immaterial, it is not YOUR car.  The only time I would be interested in what someone sold their car for is if I was getting a commision on the price, otherwise I don't care much.  Prices are all over the place, you can never determine what your car is worth until you put it up for sale.  It is worth what someone is willing to pay for it, that is the bottom line.


moparstuart

GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

1970Moparmann

It was a standard R4 Daytona-nothing special.  The new owner said he got a good deal based on current prices. :D
My name is Mike and I'm a Moparholic!

WINGIN IT


WINGIN IT

Quote from: moparstuart on April 27, 2013, 10:51:57 PM
must be 155 k then

Why not $135K then?

Freak's got a point though, prices are all over the place and it's ultimately up to the car and the buyer.

ws23rt

Putting a value on something like these nitch cars will always be tough. The sellers bias puts it high and the buyer never wants to feel like they payed too much. (Is this why we seldom know what they are sold for

richRTSE

Quote from: moparstuart on April 27, 2013, 10:51:57 PM
must be 155 k then
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That doesn't look like enough K's, but it is 155....


WINGIN IT

And BINGO was his NAME-O !   :lol:

Based on that , it tells me that private party sales for original, but restored, vehicles with good history are close to being in line with pubic sales. 
Makes sense due to the limited amount of vehicles available.

moparsr2fast

  Hi, my name is Bob... and I also am an M A... non recovering ofcoarse...  I tell the wife that Mopars must reproduce because I NEVER have a clue how another shows up on occasion  :shruggy:
Bob

  70 Charger 500
     2001 Ram 2500 Sport
        2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee
  2006 Dodge Charger Daytona

Budnicks

"fill your library before you fill your garage"   Budnicks

moparstuart

GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

1970Moparmann

My name is Mike and I'm a Moparholic!

Mytur Binsdirti


moparstuart

GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

1970Moparmann

My name is Mike and I'm a Moparholic!

moparstuart

Quote from: 1970Moparmann on April 30, 2013, 10:40:47 AM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on April 30, 2013, 06:01:00 AM
Quote from: 1970Moparmann on April 29, 2013, 09:54:01 PM
Mikey wins!  

Are you sure?   ;)

Good for you.  With the extra funds you can have a DC.Com party... :2thumbs:
dont you mean a 68 hemi charger and an A-12 rally green Road Runner   :icon_smile_big:
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

WINGIN IT

Quote from: WINGIN IT on April 28, 2013, 08:04:51 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on April 27, 2013, 10:51:57 PM
must be 155 k then

Why not $135K then?

Freak's got a point though, prices are all over the place and it's ultimately up to the car and the buyer.

I'll take the whizzo button, not big fan of lolipops  :lol:

hemi-hampton

How many Hemi Daytonas did they make & how many in Black? What would a Black Hemi Daytona be worth in #4 condition. LEON. :scratchchin: