My First WIW - '69 Charger R/T-SE 440-4 Speed F6 Green

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Chris I'm sure Mark Worman can fix it!!!

[bill440rt]

Lots of good responses here. 
We can definitely relate to the "how do you prove the color?" dilemma. About the only way around this here is evidence on the mangled rad support upper tie bar with the VIN and obvious original F6 green paint surrounding it. The entire rad support needs replacing anyway, so holding on to that part would seal it's fate.
Like Chris said, restoring the body of this car would indeed be a task of biblical proportions. Neither of us are in a position right now to tackle on such a project. Then again, neither of us would like to see this car fade away to oblivion. Posts such as this are at least a first step in deciding what we're going to do with it. 

At this point we are definitely open to offers. Some of the numbers thrown around here are a little at the low end, others are right on target. Based on just the value of the parts alone, we had thought more than $4K but under $6K. Tack on the VIN numbers, remains of the broadcast sheet, and numbers matching trans as just bonus items in case that brave soul out there steps up with a desire to take on this huge feat. If not they are still left with a good amount of rare parts. 
We'd like to see it go to live on, maybe someone is interested in it on the forums. If not maybe we'll throw it up on eBay. 

[ws23rt]

Just have to revisit this. I am on the west coast and have been most of my life. Recalling from the early eightys I remember folks from the east were coming here to get car frames and bodys to fix the salt ravaged cars they needed to preserve. I was in awe at what they thought was fixable. (And still am). Back then cars that would have gone to scrap out here with luck were found just in time and went east. We still have barn finds but they are looking more like this charger. I recall visiting a guy that had thirteen hemi cars stored in an open shed near the west coast of Washington. They were rusting away unprotected at that time. Wonder what became of them?

[Homerr]

It'd be a big shame to see this car parted, imho.  If you can afford to hold on to it for a while I'd ask you guys to hold out for a person that will take on the restoration (see SGTPaul and hunt2elk over at fbbo.com as the type).  Only so many VIN's out there and for someone out there this is a labor of love to bring back.

[bill440rt]

We would like nothing more than to see this car saved & live on. But you're right, it would have to go to the right person.

I had a low-ball tire kicker just at my house today, looking at a Charger door for his project (not a door from this particular car BTW). He was with his father, and both spoke a foreign language. But, I could tell just by their words & mannerisms they were discussing to strip it for parts, cut & keep the VIN's, and re-body the car. No deal was made, but it is bringing some attention. 

[ws23rt]

We would like nothing more than to see this car saved & live on. But you're right, it would have to go to the right person.

I had a low-ball tire kicker just at my house today, looking at a Charger door for his project (not a door from this particular car BTW). He was with his father, and both spoke a foreign language. But, I could tell just by their words & mannerisms they were discussing to strip it for parts, cut & keep the VIN's, and re-body the car. No deal was made, but it is bringing some attention. 

I am reminded by this. I sold a hemi road runner many years ago. The buyer was working for someone else. He asked me after the deal to quote a higher selling price if I was asked by anyone that may call. I did get a call from a very foreign sounding voice. After chit chat came the question. I re payed the buyers request and quoted a higher selling price. That ended the phone call with thank you very much by.
To me this says the long term value of these cars world wide is viewed as an investiment. This was the case in the eightys that moved the prices out of our reach. Good news if true for us but only if we are selling and the value is up.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

More pics here...odometer shows 66k miles....I bet its legit...66k hard miles


http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/6t9chgr/library/69%20Charger%20RTSE%204-speed

[bill440rt]

I just added some pics I took as well. About 50+ more.
Chris & I spoke a bit, we are probably going to place the vehicle for sale here & on other forums. If anyone here is interested, please pm either one of us. We can only hope there is a good future in store for this car. On the opposite side, the new owner is going to have a bunch of great parts! 

http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/6t9chgr/library/69%20Charger%20RTSE%204-speed?sort=3&page=3

[DixieRestoParts]

Certainly rare for sure, but how much more money does rare bring?

In many cases nothing. However, in this case, if you can prove what the car was/is as far as everything but the color, it adds a good premium over a standard auto R/T car. Color is very much a personal choice, but many people like F6 and would pay a premium for it. How much? That is definitely hard to tell. You kinda have to SWAG that one when selling and see what sticks.

[duanesterrr]

I would pay 3k for it.  Once it arrives at my house it will go under the tarp for 5 years.  I just don't have the funds for that type of undertaking at the moment.  I do posess the crazy enough mind set to take it on and don't fit in the "flip" or "part it out" crowd.

What are we talking about at a respectable body shop for costs?  30K to buy all the metal and install?  Then I have to rebuild the driveline.  Since I don't have to original motor will it be frowned upon if I drop a hemi in it? haha... one can dream right? 

Best of luck with the sale hopefully it finds a good home.

[charger_fan_4ever]

What are we talking about at a respectable body shop for costs?  30K to buy all the metal and install? 

30k would probably buy the parts and have the metal work done. Rails and all probably 10k in metal alone. Then finishing and the undercarriage ontop of that.

[XS29LA47V21]

It is a 69 RT/SE, It is priceless, clearly.   

The no fender tag and limited build sheet hurt it.  The over the top rust hurts it.  The colors and great outstanding options put it in the holly grail category from someone (me included).  I would guess in gold, other greens or bronzes it would likely not be saved.  Maybe a guy that can do that scale of sheet metal can save it, alternatively someone who is deeply in love with it will then be really deep in it, if a restoration shop completes it.  I guess it depends on who gets a hold of it.  I bet many would like to save it.  Maybe that is a good car for the corner of the shop if you have space....

It seems relevant for this thread IMO.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,80144.75.html

[bill440rt]

This car is now officially for sale.
Here is a link to the post here on DC.com:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,100841.0.html

It is basically priced by the sum of it's parts. We can only hope it has a promising future.   

[skip68]

I'd say somewhere around the $5k to $5,500k price range.   

[Surf Charger]

I've run into the same problem with my '69 RT S/E. Was wrecked in 1977 and sat ever since. No fender tag. No build sheet. But has numbers matching on dash, rad support, trunk lip, engine, tranny. Some rare options were the orange color w/ white vinyl top, luggage rack, rear defrost, A/C, etc. Too bad it sat uncovered since 1984. Previous owner bought it for parts in the early 80's to restore a Hemi Charger.

[Mopar Nut]

I'd say somewhere around the $5k to $5,500k price range.   

if not sell it, restore it!

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Heres a pretty cool late '70s pic of the car when it was painted black....

[Charger-Bodie]

Way cool guys.

[Baldwinvette77]

Heres a pretty cool late '70s pic of the car when it was painted black....

Jesus, hard to believe its the same car 

[bill440rt]

We were shocked, too. 
Good thing about that pic is it shows the car with the rocker moldings, R/T emblem on the quarters (stripe delete car), and the wheel covers on the front that is also coded for on the build sheet. 

[fy469rtse]

It is a 69 RT/SE, It is priceless, clearly.   

The no fender tag and limited build sheet hurt it.  The over the top rust hurts it.  The colors and great outstanding options put it in the holly grail category from someone (me included).  I would guess in gold, other greens or bronzes it would likely not be saved.  Maybe a guy that can do that scale of sheet metal can save it, alternatively someone who is deeply in love with it will then be really deep in it, if a restoration shop completes it.  I guess it depends on who gets a hold of it.  I bet many would like to save it.  Maybe that is a good car for the corner of the shop if you have space....hang on guys, why not get a reproduction fender tag made with the involvement of someone's opinion from charger registry to confirm in person options that are on car and would have been on the fender tag, much bigger job than I like but if Mitch on this site can do a car like this condition, I am almost finished my rt se, but in the wrong part of the world, would prefer to see photos of the steel that you can't buy, most of it is reproduced, so what would make it impossible to fix without a donor shell, sad that numbers matching engine missing, I wish I was close to hitch up a trailer and come over and get her, what state is car located in , still thinking about it

It seems relevant for this thread IMO.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,80144.75.html

[bill440rt]

It is a 69 RT/SE, It is priceless, clearly.   

The no fender tag and limited build sheet hurt it.  The over the top rust hurts it.  The colors and great outstanding options put it in the holly grail category from someone (me included).  I would guess in gold, other greens or bronzes it would likely not be saved.  Maybe a guy that can do that scale of sheet metal can save it, alternatively someone who is deeply in love with it will then be really deep in it, if a restoration shop completes it.  I guess it depends on who gets a hold of it.  I bet many would like to save it.  Maybe that is a good car for the corner of the shop if you have space....hang on guys, why not get a reproduction fender tag made with the involvement of someone's opinion from charger registry to confirm in person options that are on car and would have been on the fender tag, much bigger job than I like but if Mitch on this site can do a car like this condition, I am almost finished my rt se, but in the wrong part of the world, would prefer to see photos of the steel that you can't buy, most of it is reproduced, so what would make it impossible to fix without a donor shell, sad that numbers matching engine missing, I wish I was close to hitch up a trailer and come over and get her, what state is car located in , still thinking about it

It seems relevant for this thread IMO.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,80144.75.html

The car is in Central NJ, easy to get to from the surrounding states if you are in the Northeast US.
PM either one of us for more info.

[bill440rt]

Just an update...
Currently there is a sale pending on the Charger. A deposit has been received. The prospective buyer is not a member here, but does lurk quite a bit so I was told. Good news is according to him he has plans to save/restore it, which is what Chris & I hoped for. The amount of emails & phone calls we received was surprising, to say the least.
So, hopefully this one will have a new lease on life someday. 

[Mopar Nut]

Get him to join here and post his progress/pictures. Glad to see another one saved.

[resq302]

Get him to join here and post his progress/pictures. Glad to see another one saved.