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2006 Daytona 500 - Boooooriiiiiiing

Started by Shakey, February 19, 2006, 07:00:39 PM

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Shakey

The best part was when they went to commercials.  The Valvoline one is better than any Super Bowl commercial I have seen in years.

I dozed off around lap 60 for 15 - 20 minutes.  I never really thought there was anything of interest throughout the race.  Perhaps when the 17 was hunting down the 20, thought maybe something good was gonna happen there.  Sure there were a couple of incidents, other than that, not too much on track excitement.

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Quote from: Shakey on February 19, 2006, 07:00:39 PM
The best part was when they went to commercials. The Valvoline one is better than any Super Bowl commercial I have seen in years.

I dozed off around lap 60 for 15 - 20 minutes. I never really thought there was anything of interest throughout the race. Perhaps when the 17 was hunting down the 20, thought maybe something good was gonna happen there. Sure there were a couple of incidents, other than that, not too much on track excitement.


Boring? ??? You should have stayed awake. That was a great race. There were some great wrecks. Several different people getting penaltys for aggressive driving. Middle fingers flying everywhere. They were 3 to 4 wide at some points. Some real great racing going on.The Penske Dodges ran up near the front for most of the race. What the heck is not to like about that. Great race to Ryan and Kurt. . . . .
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Telvis

I liked it. I just needed my Nascar fix.

Big Lebowski

I was really rooting for the 2nd place finisher, Ryan Newman in his Dodge Charger R/T Daytona SuperBee Hemi Srt-8 Nascar. :icon_smile_big:
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TruckDriver

The only thing that sucked about the race was the 48 car winning :puke: Ya, the Mark Martin & UPS commercials were funny as all heck :yesnod:
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NHCharger

I had to turn it off. The number of ads made me want to  :puke:.
I turned it back on with 30 laps to go.
Because of the weather they couldn't get any in car camera shots which are the best part of the race. It also wouldn't have killed the camera guys to wipe the water off the lenses once and a while. With this being the last year for NBC to broadcast NASCAR apparently they don't care about the quality of the broadcasts.
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Quote from: DodgeChargerGuy on February 19, 2006, 08:36:30 PM
The only thing that sucked about the race was the 48 car winning :puke: Ya, the Mark Martin & UPS commercials were funny as all heck :yesnod:

Yep!!!  I thought before the race, "this is the 48 running of the 500, man it would SUCK for him to win"

:down: :puke:

Chargen69

Quote from: NHCharger on February 19, 2006, 08:38:58 PM
I had to turn it off. The number of ads made me want to  :puke:.
I turned it back on with 30 laps to go.
Because of the weather they couldn't get any in car camera shots which are the best part of the race. It also wouldn't have killed the camera guys to wipe the water off the lenses once and a while. With this being the last year for NBC to broadcast NASCAR apparently they don't care about the quality of the broadcasts.

:iagree:

TruckDriver

Quote from: NHCharger on February 19, 2006, 08:38:58 PM
Because of the weather they couldn't get any in car camera shots which are the best part of the race. It also wouldn't have killed the camera guys to wipe the water off the lenses once and a while. With this being the last year for NBC to broadcast NASCAR apparently they don't care about the quality of the broadcasts.

I am not a big fan of the in car unless there showing how it looked during a accident. But I do agree about the camera lenses not being cleaned off.
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chrisII

Quote from: Big Lebowski on February 19, 2006, 08:04:13 PM
I was really rooting for the 2nd place finisher, Ryan Newman in his Dodge Charger R/T Daytona SuperBee Hemi Srt-8 Nascar. :icon_smile_big:


uuummmm   congrats to second place Casey Mears and THIRD place Ryan Newman. it always amazes me how after the race NBC and speed seem to have at least one cars finishing position wrong. it was obvious watching the race that casey had position on ryan when the yellow flew. then they say ryan had second , then they say casey had second..i can see where people get confused...at least dilner got his shirt buttoned right this race (the first time he was on air in homestead his buttons were off by one hole  :icon_smile_big:) i wonder how some of these guys ever get on the air?
   I for one am gladd to see the 48 take the winn if a dodge couldnt. heck i would have even ben happy to see kurt bush get a daytona winn in a dodge. but i never did expect him to finish even tho he was running really well all day.

bull

The cars on the track go 'round and 'round, 'round and 'round, 'round and 'round
The cars on the track go 'round and 'round, way too long...

69_500

I thought it was a good race, but they still need to do away with the restrictor plates, and let the cars just run wide open. It still seems too hard to pass whoever is in front. Which isn't right. If they can safely run 200 at Atlanta then they can run 240+ at Talladega and Daytona safely in my mind.

Shakey

Quote from: bull on February 20, 2006, 12:04:53 AM
The cars on the track go 'round and 'round, 'round and 'round, 'round and 'round
The cars on the track go 'round and 'round, way too long...

Personally, I like the short sprint races like the 125 qualifiers, the Bud Shootout, the All Star race at Charlotte Motor Speedway in May and all of the IROC races.

The IROC race on Friday night was great racing.

my73charger

Actually the only thing that pissed me off is that there was so many commercials.  At the beginning of the race we were lucky to see two laps of that before breaking to another long set of commercials.

hemihead

Looks like the new Soap Opera season has started.I think NASCAR is too much of a one sided dictatorship.
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chargerboy69

Quote from: DodgeChargerGuy on February 19, 2006, 08:36:30 PM
The only thing that sucked about the race was the 48 car winning :puke:


I could not agree more. I cannot stand the "cheats" I mean the 48 team either. Way to go Ryan on a 3rd place win. . . . .
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Quote from: 69_500 on February 20, 2006, 06:30:47 AM
. If they can safely run 200 at Atlanta then they can run 240+ at Talladega and Daytona safely in my mind.

actually they couldnt. the open wheel series have done some tests and found that drivers start blacking out at about 230 with all the g forces theyre pulling, especially at high banked tracks like daytona and 'dega. Fighter pilots withstand higher g-forces, but not for 3-4 hours at a time.
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69_500

There is a difference in the INdy cars running 235 at Texas and a NASCAR car running 230 at Talladega. Not as sharp of a corner, therfore less G's. So I still say its possible for them to run it. If the INDY cars can run 230 mph at Indianapolis Motor Speedway without any adverse effects of G forces, then the NASCAR cars can run 230 at Talladega or Daytona considering that their corners are banked and actually Talladega's track was designed for a car to run 200+.

BigBlackDodge

Rusty did some testing at Dega in 2004 without the plates....

http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/cup/06/10/rwallace_talladega/

In a draft they'd go faster! :o


BBD

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 Anyone notice that the annnouncers extremely rarely, if at all, mentioned the sponsor of Any of the cars ??

Used to be they'd say," Ryan Newman in the Alltel Dodge"  , or " Matt Kenseth in the DeWAlt tools Ford" , etc.
This race they'd say "Newman in the # 12 - or Kenseth in the # 17"

I'd bet most sponsors are pretty pissed off, I'd sure be if I were paying millions to have my companies nname on the car...
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69_500

True they would be faster in a draft, but without a restrictor plate there wouldn't be a 43 car draft. Some of the teams wouldn't be able to keep up and would fall out of the draft just like they do at other tracks like Atlanta, and Texas and Vegas. Cars could and would pass easier. To me a draft of 43 cars playing chess isn't fun or exciting to watch.

dkn1997

I was there and it was a great race.  some wrecks, plenty of lead changes, green/white checker at the end.  some bad blood.  it's all good.

as far as nascar's days being numbered.  yeah, ok.  it's only the most popular sport in the country.  no other sport can get 100,000 plus fans to a single event most weeks of the year for at least 100bucks a seat. 

and any type of rule that makes them run closer together is a good one.  while a line of 43 cars drafting might seem "boring" to some, it's way better than the good old days when guys were winning races by a lap or two instead of a few car lengths like they do now. 

Now, the smallest mistake will cost you dearly and you have to pick your spots.  every decision they make from the moment they go green can cost you the race.  To me, that's exciting. 

Trust me, I am not even a huge NASCAR fan, I am way more into the yankees, so I have no stake in the arguement,

also, take the plate away and let them run 200+ and they start flying into the stands....it's happened before.

Another note on nascar's popularity:  they lost probably one of the most popular drivers ever when Earhnhart (sp?) died and the sport has flourished since despite that.  Look what happended to basketball when Jordan retired.....Nobody cares about it anymore (trust me, they cared before and B ball was getting pretty huge in this country)
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how do nascar drivers pee while they race?  ???


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I was a big Nascar fan up until about 10 years ago then i stopped watching and now it seems almost like the WWF to me. Id much rather watch any NHRA event but thats just my  :Twocents:

Mike DC

I've heard some big brains argue that although the slowdown from the plates are necessary, they hate the way the slowdown is being done.  Most of the bigwigs say they'd rather have the engines' displacement be the limiting factor if the cars are gonna be slowed down.  (Easier to police, hurts the engines' responsiveness much less, etc.)

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The only reason they still have ANY differences between the cars is probably so they can still exert some control over who wins.  You don't see many ugly drivers in small-time-sponsored cars winning.

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Shakey

Quote from: Khyron on February 22, 2006, 05:41:41 PM
how do nascar drivers pee while they race?  ???

It can reach temperatures of up to 140F in the car during the race.  They sweat a lot so there is no need to piss.  If you were racing for a $1,000,000.00 USD, would you piss yourself?

BigBlackDodge

Quote from: Shakey on February 22, 2006, 09:18:06 PM
Quote from: Khyron on February 22, 2006, 05:41:41 PM
how do nascar drivers pee while they race?  ???

It can reach temperatures of up to 140F in the car during the race.  They sweat a lot so there is no need to piss.  If you were racing for a $1,000,000.00 USD, would you piss yourself?

Only if I won! ;D

BBD

Shakey

Quote from: BigBlackDodge on February 22, 2006, 11:59:20 PM
Quote from: Shakey on February 22, 2006, 09:18:06 PM
Quote from: Khyron on February 22, 2006, 05:41:41 PM
how do nascar drivers pee while they race?  ???

It can reach temperatures of up to 140F in the car during the race.  They sweat a lot so there is no need to piss.  If you were racing for a $1,000,000.00 USD, would you piss yourself?

Only if I won! ;D

BBD

Well you wouldn't win if you had to pull over and take a leak every 150 miles.

jayco91

Most popular sport in the country?? huh I think nascar spews out its propaganda faster than Tokeyo Rose. Okay  we have 100,000 fans at race track spending there hard earned cash; but how many tracks?, oh thats right, just one, times that by 36 races = 3,600,000 A good number but let see average football game 70,000 x oh 16 games a weekend =1,120,000 x 16 weekends =17,920,000  and that is before there REAL playoff system, not some overhyped 10 race to the chase, that punishes the drivers that have been consistant all season :flame: >:( Lets  talk about the fan attendance. Theres a reason they put races all around the country, next to cities mind you. To put people in the stands. Lets talk about North Wilksboro= gone, Rockingham = gone why? empty seats, Darlington = gone why?  not enough people in the seats. :-XToo cold in the spring they said. :'( Tell that to the fans up in Green Bay Wisconso during football season. I watch it once in awhile when they race on an exiting track, not too many of them left anymore. No im not talking about the Booryard 400,Chicago, Kansas, Vegas, Pheonix, Michigan, Homstead, California etc...  By the wayis it an unwritten rule in nascar the the announcers and the officials have to suck junior's ass the WHOLE race or can they get that done before the race. :icon_smile_dissapprove:
Bottom line,  that is all we have to watch as far as racing goes, so we have no choice. I for one would love it if another  real " STOCK" car racing league was started with shorter, exiting tracks and not all the big money hype. Oh well, we all can dream, can't we. ;)

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Shakey

Quote from: jayco91 on February 24, 2006, 10:03:20 PM
Most popular sport in the country?? huh I think nascar spews out its propaganda faster than Tokeyo Rose. Okay  we have 100,000 fans at race track spending there hard earned cash; but how many tracks?, oh thats right, just one, times that by 36 races = 3,600,000 A good number but let see average football game 70,000 x oh 16 games a weekend =1,120,000 x 16 weekends =17,920,000  and that is before there REAL playoff system, not some overhyped 10 race to the chase, that punishes the drivers that have been consistant all season :flame: >:( Lets  talk about the fan attendance. Theres a reason they put races all around the country, next to cities mind you. To put people in the stands. Lets talk about North Wilksboro= gone, Rockingham = gone why? empty seats, Darlington = gone why?  not enough people in the seats. :-XToo cold in the spring they said. :'( Tell that to the fans up in Green Bay Wisconso during football season. I watch it once in awhile when they race on an exiting track, not too many of them left anymore. No im not talking about the Booryard 400,Chicago, Kansas, Vegas, Pheonix, Michigan, Homstead, California etc...  By the wayis it an unwritten rule in nascar the the announcers and the officials have to suck junior's ass the WHOLE race or can they get that done before the race. :icon_smile_dissapprove:
Bottom line,  that is all we have to watch as far as racing goes, so we have no choice. I for one would love it if another  real " STOCK" car racing league was started with shorter, exiting tracks and not all the big money hype. Oh well, we all can dream, can't we. ;)

What about the Hooters Pro Cup Series or the ARCA Series?  No big money hype there, hell there is barely any television coverage.  To follow the series you'll need a good RV.

hemihead

I totally agree with the whole Jr. thing. :yesnod: I didn't like his pompous old man either.They are "policing" the bump drafting now?After how many years of watching #3 do that to anyone who got in front of him because he wasn't a good enough driver and didn't have a good enough car to get around them.A little late.
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dkn1997

Quote from: jayco91 on February 24, 2006, 10:03:20 PM
Most popular sport in the country?? huh I think nascar spews out its propaganda faster than Tokeyo Rose. Okay  we have 100,000 fans at race track spending there hard earned cash; but how many tracks?, oh thats right, just one, times that by 36 races = 3,600,000 A good number but let see average football game 70,000 x oh 16 games a weekend =1,120,000 x 16 weekends =17,920,000  and that is before there REAL playoff system, not some overhyped 10 race to the chase, that punishes the drivers that have been consistant all season :flame: >:( Lets  talk about the fan attendance. Theres a reason they put races all around the country, next to cities mind you. To put people in the stands. Lets talk about North Wilksboro= gone, Rockingham = gone why? empty seats, Darlington = gone why?  not enough people in the seats. :-XToo cold in the spring they said. :'( Tell that to the fans up in Green Bay Wisconso during football season. I watch it once in awhile when they race on an exiting track, not too many of them left anymore. No im not talking about the Booryard 400,Chicago, Kansas, Vegas, Pheonix, Michigan, Homstead, California etc...  By the wayis it an unwritten rule in nascar the the announcers and the officials have to suck junior's ass the WHOLE race or can they get that done before the race. :icon_smile_dissapprove:
Bottom line,  that is all we have to watch as far as racing goes, so we have no choice. I for one would love it if another  real " STOCK" car racing league was started with shorter, exiting tracks and not all the big money hype. Oh well, we all can dream, can't we. ;)

ok, ok, I was exagerating about the "most" popular thing.  I was responding to the comments implying that it's going away and I got carried away.  Yes, nothing can touch football.  But not many football teams draw in small markets.  depends on what you call small.  sure green bay draws, but that is very unique.  How about watkins glen?  a ton of people go to that race and that's not exactly the big city up there. 

My perspective is from a guy who's a sports fan, but not a huge nascar fan.  As an outsider looking in, I just cannot deny how much more popular nascar has become since I starting paying attention in 2000.   As far as the announcers kissing jr.'s fanny.  That goes on in every sport, not just nascar.  Derek Jeter of the yankees (I am a huge fan of his, but his ass must hurt from all those lips on it) michael jordan when he played basketball, and the list goes on and on.

There is a reason that these guys get the free pass on things:  They are the poster boys for their respective sports, they say and do the right things on tv, and they have talent. 

I know that a lot of you guys seem down on Nascar, but I watch it because it's a sport with CARS going fast.  When you are in the stands and 40 of them go by you at 180+, who cares about anything else?

Oh, and since we are all getting so pissed off:   :flame: :icon_smile_evil: :icon_smile_angry: :flame: :flame: :icon_smile_dead: :icon_smile_angry: :icon_smile_angry:

less coffee maybe, ok?
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hemihead

 One word NHRA!  Oh, and I love my 2 pots of Coffee a day lol  :icon_smile_cool: No offense.
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jayco91

Sorry about the  :flame: >:( I meant that from the drivers perspective, not my own.