Experiences with 2006 F250 - I'm looking to buy one

[68X426]

I've been looking at used trucks - 3/4 diesels, under 100k miles. I sure would like it to be a Ram, but the sellers all want way beyond blue book values. Way beyond. So today a very solid Ford crossed my path.

It's a 2006 F250, with the 6.0 L Power Stroke diesel, with 65k. The features I want all line up, plus it has a provable maintenance record and service. At a great price. 

So - what are the specific experiences out there with the 6.0 diesel, and other issues, with a 2006 F250? 

Thanks everyone, Dan.

[Indygenerallee]

6.0's are way BELOW book value usually because they are 6.0's!!! Head gasket and EGR cooler problems, It's a good engine when those problems are fixed (more powerful than a 7.3) but if those head gaskets are not replaced and studded head bolts installed along with fixing the EGR cooler it's a ticking EXPENSIVE time bomb, seen way too many 04-up 6.0's at the auctions that go for 5-6,000 below loan value regularly, I don't buy them for the lot because the minute you say 6.0 people start walking the other way!! Also to fix the head gaskets on those trucks the cab has to come off, it's at the cheapest a $3500.00 repair and at Ford usually $6500.00. I would look for something else unless you can verify the truck has had those repairs. 

[lukedukem]

Dan I gotta agree with Indy, although this doesn't happen to every truck. I had a 2003 ford that had the 6.0 in it, it was a late 03 model. I bought it with 75000 miles on it and put 50,000 on it before I traded it in on a cummins in 06. That ford would haul ass and whatever I put behind it. It had 410 gears. Now I have a very good friend that works for ford and at the time he said " if you can afford it get a cummins and ditch the 6.0" so I did. He told me that if you put a chip in it or pull a lot it will break, like what Indy said above. I towed a little with it. The most I ever towed was a Polaris ranger with about 1k pounds of corn. Not much at all. They don't all break. My uncle has put a lot of miles on his 05 and had no issues, but he doesn't tow and has no chip.  So depending on what you do with it is what it will result in. But you by a diesel to use and chances are it will break, murfys law. And if you replace the head studs with ARP ones it will help prevent the head gaskets from blowing. Google it, there are places that do just this and others stuff to prevent this from happening. Do your research. Choose wisely.
Oh yeah, the cummins owners know what they got and they ask a lot for it. Hope this helps. Let me know if there are anymore questions.

Luke

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[68X426]

Ouch, none of this is what I wanted to hear. Thanks guys for sharing real world experience.

[lukedukem]

No problem. Have you considered a ram with 150k or so miles. They have a proven record of lasting 300k before rebuilds. Cheaper too. Just watch for ones that were chipped or lifted and abused. Not that I'm against that but you run into more problems when that starts, IMO. I've got 98k on my 06 and all I've done is change the water pump at 55k under warranty. No chip, and it pulls my 18ft trailer with my 38hp John Deere with no issues.
Just another option. But if its under 100k you want those cummins sellers realize what's going on with diesels and yeah, they jack the price up. Good luck. I can keep an I open down here is south texas. Those trucks are everywhere so it might be cheaper down here. Idk.

Luke

[Silver R/T]

If I were to go with Ford I'd pick a 7.3 powerstroke.

[ACUDANUT]

I love Ford trucks, But I would run from a 6.0 as fast as I can.
There is a website (legal) issues with anyone who bought one new.  That engine  (made by Navistar/international) are in deep trouble...However the EPA is the one killed the 7.3 

[Indygenerallee]

Nice Cummins are expensive up here in Indiana I regulary see 99-01 5.9's (2500 4x4 ext. cabs) NICE bringing $10-$12,000 with 200,000 miles. I sold a 04 quad cab with 139,000 miles for $16,500 a couple months back.

[lukedukem]

I love Ford trucks, But I would run from a 6.0 as fast as I can.
There is a website (legal) issues with anyone who bought one new.  That engine  (made by Navistar/international) are in deep trouble...However the EPA is the one killed the 7.3 

Yeah, I act sully got a letter in the mail regarding the lawsuit. If I stilled owned the truck. But it's against ford and not NAVSTAR. 

Luke

[Cooter]

6.0 Ford Diesels? = JUNK X10....Navistar junk Google is your friend here.

[chargerboy69]

I love Ford trucks, But I would run from a 6.0 as fast as I can.

This.


I love my Ford truck. . . just love it, but it is a 7.3.  Step back a couple years to a 2003 and get yourself a 7.3. I am pushing 300,000 miles on my F-350, and that is not Sunday driving miles.  These miles are hard, hauling campers of all sizes back from auctions to my dealership 3 to 4 days a week, 40 weeks a year. I change my oil and transmission fluid every 5000 miles.

I have heard of many people taking in their 6.0 and having the head bolts done early, before the gaskets blow and they are perfectly happy with their 6.0's.  Personally, I would pass.

I have heard only good things about the new 6.7's they just introduced, may be kinda pricey though.

[Cooter]

You couldn't GIVE me a diesel truck nowadays. Used to be a time when they are the Bees kness. Now, the fuewl is hgiher, the trucks are hgiher, the Emissions have caused the engines to blow, and now, they all have the DPFE filters on them causing them to be driven for "Re-Gen" cycles every so often.


$50K for a newer Diesel, that when right after it's out of warranty, the neigne blows, and it costs me 10 times what a replacemnt GAS engine costs?

Yeah, the extra $1.00/gal you save at the pump, and extra 4 MPG over a 50K mile range should help pay for that new $10K engine.

[73rallye440magnum]

Ever wonder why Ford puts Cummins engines in their Medium Duty trucks?

[dyslexic teddybear]

Cummins.

Coming up to 300k on my 96......nothing has been done to it. Just maintenance. Truck has had a couple of things, nothing to the motor. Totally satisfied with this rig.

I'm a long time Cummins guy.....there's a reason for the price.

[Indygenerallee]

300k on that 96 you ever know if they fixed the "Killer dowel pin" It's like rolling the dice, I have taken them apart to find the pin out where it fell out and missed the gears but if it finds itself inbetween the gears bad things happen!! 

[dyslexic teddybear]

300k on that 96 you ever know if they fixed the "Killer dowel pin" It's like rolling the dice, I have taken them apart to find the pin out where it fell out and missed the gears but if it finds itself inbetween the gears bad things happen!!  

Would have to agree, that's not really maintenance.

But.......nothing was broken, so locking it, wasn't really repairing anything either.

With my luck......after writing this, I've jinxed it.

[skip68]

The 7.3 was the best motor Ford ever had.  I've had 3 of them and nothing but love for them.   I sold my last one with 287,000 miles, still got 18mpg towing.   You've got to keep the oil changes up and filters and they just keep running.   Cummings is probably just as good.   

[ACUDANUT]

Cummings are getting to be jinxed by the EPA too. And Dodge... aka..Ram has made these simple 6 bangers a electrical nightmare.

[dyslexic teddybear]

Cummings are getting to be jinxed by the EPA too. And Dodge... aka..Ram has made these simple 6 bangers a electrical nightmare.

Exactly the reason I will not let my 96 go. Not run in the salt and never has been. No mater what the milage gets to....I will fix it and keep it.

And now that Dodge Truck no longer exists....I even have less reason to want a new one.

[Cooter]

Urea filters (Basiclaly, a cat converter for Diesels) have become...Won't be long till Musclecars are required to have Cat. Converters.

[Indygenerallee]

That's why I love Indiana we don't have any state vehicle inspection B.S.

[Cooter]

That's why I love Indiana we don't have any state vehicle inspection B.S.

Well, I would think Removing the Urea filter is a Federal thing more than a State wide thing, but you just give it time, and Indiana will be required to offer some form of State Inspection.

[lukedukem]

That's why I love Indiana we don't have any state vehicle inspection B.S.

Well, I would think Removing the Urea filter is a Federal thing more than a State wide thing, but you just give it time, and Indiana will be required to offer some form of State Inspection.

it is : "Clean Air Act" – which is incorporated into the United States Code as Title 42,
Chapter 85.   In recent years, EPA has adopted a "systems approach" to the regulation of new diesel engines,
thus, regulating the emissions and the fuel together. This makes sense because the removal of
sulfur from diesel fuel is necessary to allow the efficient use of highly effective after-treatment
emission control devices. With this system approach, EPA regulations will:
     • Reduce nitrogen oxides (NOx) and fine particulate matter PM2.5 from new heavy-duty
highway diesels (e.g., trucks and buses) by about 90%, effective in 2007 for PM , and 2007-
2010 for NOx. Effective as of January 1st 2010, the emission level of particulate matter
should be reduced from 2002 level of 0.1 g/bhp-hr to 0.01g/bhp-hr (brake horsepower hour).
Nitrogen oxide (NOx) exhaust emissions — which contribute to acid rain, smog and
greenhouse gas levels — must be reduced from 1.2 g/bhp-hr in 2007 emission levels to 0.20
g/bhp-hr in 2010 emission level.
     • Reduce nitrogen oxides (NOx) and fine particulate matter PM2.5 from new heavy-duty nonroad
diesels (e.g., construction, farming and logging equipment) by about 90%, effective in
the 2011-2014 time frame depending on the pollutant and the size of engine.
     • Reduce the sulfur content in highway diesel fuel to 15 ppm ("ultra-low sulfur diesel" fuel, or
"ULSD" fuel) beginning in late 2006.
     • Reduce the sulfur content in land-based non-road diesel fuel in two steps, to 500 ppm in
2007 and 15 ppm beginning in 2010.
     • Reduce the sulfur content in diesel fuel used in new locomotive and many marine engines in
two steps, to 500 ppm in 2007 and 15 ppm beginning in 2012.
    EPA has also announced its intention to commence a rulemaking designed to substantially
reduce emissions from new locomotives and many marine engines, taking advantage of the
highly effective after-treatment control devices made possible by the availability of ULSD fuel.
The challenging task is urging EPA to adopt the most stringent limits achievable with reasonable,
cost-effective approaches.

[RIDELIKEHELL]

My neighbor just bought a 2005 with the 6.0.....